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Looking as if we may send our child to private education, am worried we won't 'fit in'

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Janus · 12/05/2015 17:56

Just that really!! We didn't get into our preferred, second or third choice of primary school, am still waiting to hear about the 4th choice. We are now much better financially off than we were with our other 3 who have all gone to the local schools and are doing well. I love the school that the other 3 went to but we are very unlikely to now get in, too far down the waiting list etc. My older 2 are at the local secondary school and one is doing GCSE'S next year and, with some effort, she could get 6 or 7 A's. My next child is just in Year 7 and is in top set for everything. So the local state school has been really good for us.
But as it seems the state schools we have used so far are not available we may have to go private for our last one. The real pro side I can see is that he seems to love being outside doing anything with a ball and people seem to think he's good at this. So at a private school I think there is more opportunities for more sports. But I could also just enrol him into other outside activities locally, local tennis club, football club etc. He hasn't yet shown that he is exceptionally bright. He can write his own name, knows all his numbers but he doesn't know all his letters and he is nowhere near being able to read. I am worried that he will therefore be behind already when he starts Reception in September. Does everyone do pre-school extra work to ensure that theirs know all this when they start a private school, am I behind already?
I am also worried that everyone will be super rich and they will not be amused at me in my old, banged up car! We don't 'do' ski holidays, don't go sailing, etc, etc. I know I am being very negative and judgemental here! But what if my boy just doesn't fit in, what if he/we are not liked?
I guess my main worries really are that we are already behind and that he will also get a slightly strange view of the world, i.e. that people have money when many do not.
Are these valid worries or am I being silly?

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pusspusslet · 12/05/2015 18:37

I don't think you're being silly, but I do think you don't need to worry.

If your little boy is 'behind' (unlikely, I'd have thought, but possible) then he'll have every chance to catch up. He's only a baby, really, just starting in Reception. If he was aged 11 going into a prep school that goes to 13 then it might be less easy to catch up.

As for concerns about relative wealth, little children like this are only going to be interested in how much fun your child is to play/be with. Parents concerned about your wealth v. theirs aren't worth concerning yourself about (idiots exist everywhere--just ignore them). Most parents will only care about how you/your child are to have contact with.

Good luck to you and baby Janus :)

Janus · 12/05/2015 19:06

Thank you Puss! X
That post reduced me to tears as it's probably also subconsciously a huge thing to have my last baby start school and for it to be so different compared to the others. I am heartbroken he can't go to the school his aiblings went to, I haven't even told him yet he's not going to the school he knows inside out. It's all a bit pants!

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Chottie · 12/05/2015 19:09

Don't worry at all about fitting in. My DCs were privately educated and I can assure you there was a good mix of parents at all 4 schools they attended.

So sorry, to hear your LO won't be able to attend school with his siblings.

Nolim · 12/05/2015 19:10

Watching with interest

Clobbered · 12/05/2015 19:16

Don't worry about "fitting in". Private schools attract a whole variety of parents from different backgrounds. There is usually a snobby element there, but most people are ordinary folks, just trying to do the best for their kids and they won't all be doing fancy holidays and cars etc. It's a mix, just like everywhere else.

Janus · 12/05/2015 19:16

Thank you Chotti, think I need to hear there is still a good mix of people!
Nolim, are you in a similar situation (or am I about to get flamed?!!)?

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Flower1984 · 12/05/2015 19:41

Depends on the private school. The school my children attend the parents are from a mix of backgrounds and I Have never found Any of the parents to be pretentious...

Janus · 12/05/2015 19:55

Thank you Flower and Clobbered, I'm trying to be a bit more open minded now!

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MMmomKK · 12/05/2015 20:00

I don't think you need to worry.

First - doesn't sound like your private school is assessment-based. So it's highly likely that there will be a range of abilities/preparedness of the kids who would arrive in Sept. For e.g., in DD2's YR class this year there were a lot of kids who didn't know their letters, and a small group who did, and one girl who read quite well. We are also in a non-selective school.

Second, she has no idea of who in her class is wealthier/less wealthy than us. Out of ~20 kids several went skiing this year - not a majority though. No one went sailing, or owns a horse...lol.

When DD1 was at another school - which had a wealthier cohort of parents to our current school - she did at some point ask me why so many other kids live in houses while we live in a flat. Nothing wrong with a question - and a good reason to talk about some of those differences. However, the differences were not important to the kids when they chose friends, etc.

Some parents at school have fancier cars than others. No one cares or judges the others...

Good luck!

Nolim · 12/05/2015 20:01

No flaming from me! I am considering private education for my dc and tbh snobiness is one thing to consider.
I went to a private school and i knew that i was in the lower end of the economic range for my class and i really disliked the snob pupils. And some times were not even the ones from wealthy families!

AnotherNewt · 12/05/2015 20:09

Knackered car is a badge of honour - especially if interior covered in dog hair.

Even the serious London hothouses will take reception children who can't yet read; it's not the start point that matters, but how they learn. And all schools, including in the private sector must (more or less) follow the EYFS (the dispensation for private schools to depart from it is pretty new, but even with it they don't seem to be departing that far).

Janus · 12/05/2015 20:15

Thank you all so much, these are exceptionally useful comments.
Another, I will do very well then, 2 dogs and 4 kids my car is an absolute smelly tip!!!
Thanks again for the lovely replies.

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threegoingonthirty · 12/05/2015 20:22

Avoid schools in central London and Swiss Cottage - very wealthy crowd at The Hall, Arnold House and similar. Otherwise I'd agree, my daughter is at private school, we pay the fees from earned income, have a holiday in Cornwall once a year and am cacking myself over the fact that fees have gone up 9-10% for the last two years - hoping it's a blip. Looking round at other parents, there are clearly some for who the fees are just nothing, and plenty in our situation. I wouldn't worry about it.

Pepperpot69 · 12/05/2015 23:51

I promise you don't worry, you DC will be superbly rounded knowing that you gave him as much as you could in the best environment that you could. Teach him that in your eyes everyone is equal.In our house we have taught our kids to 'treat very person the way you would like to be treated'. We have a hugely historic, aristocratic background without a pot to p**s in so we are very much in 'your camp' and believe you me, there are plenty more that won't admit it. Don't be intimidated, if you are there, you deserve to be. Believe in your child and he will learn, from you, to believe in himself..you can't buy that!

littlemissmuggins · 13/05/2015 00:06

We've had experience of two pre-preps now and haven't felt out of place at either school. We're not rich, our kids haven't been past Euro Disney, we don't have a pony. All the other families just seem 'normal' to me.

And you'd be surprised how people are paying for school. I've known a lot of teacher-parents on big staff discounts, employer's paying the school fee, grandparents paying, people having cashed in on their London housing boom and relocated to the country.

Janus · 13/05/2015 07:40

Oh I do bang on about being equal in this house, how people can't even afford to eat, why I put food in the food bank box, earthquakes in Nepal etc but ours are quite lucky, they have a laptop (older ones), iPad (younger ones), we eat well, go out for a pub lunch every other week, don't have to stress about our ridiculous heating/elec bill. I'm just praying they see this is not the norm and I know the older ones do as they have friends that can't even afford to go down town for a cuppa. But that's the beauty of state school, it shows them both sides!
I think it's up to us to keep him grounded! It still terrifies me though but all your comments are showing me that I'm overreacting! Thank you.

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littlemissmuggins · 13/05/2015 08:10

The social and binomial inequality of life does need talking about more when at private schools, simply because they will permanently be surrounded by at least only the middle classes.

And this does have its downsides. I try hard to explain to my dd(5) that what she has can't be taken for ha yes etc. and it does sink in. But it also means she likes to declare (quite loudly) how "lucky we are, because we're rich and can afford to buy toys and books". Blush

littlemissmuggins · 13/05/2015 08:11

Binomial?! WTF?!

'Economical', obviously.

littlemissmuggins · 13/05/2015 08:12

has yes = granted

Bloody hell, actually losing the plot.

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Janus · 13/05/2015 14:43

Littlemiss, I was just off to google binomial and was thinking we were obviously too thick for private as I didn't understand that sentence!! Smile
We aren't near London so not applying for private schools which have entrance exams etc (phew!).
I will let you know what we end up doing. Thanks.

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ChocolateWombat · 13/05/2015 17:55

And don't start off with an inferiority complex. You are as 'good' as the other parents and he is as 'good' as the other children, whatever that means.

I think its important to start off feeling confident and not like the poor or the inferior cousin and certainly to never give any sign of such thoughts to your child.
At the end of the day, the parents are just people and the children are just children and you need to take everyone as you find them,mas you do everywhere.
I'm sure you don't look down on those you know currently who are less well off than you, or up to those who you know have more. It will be just the same where you are going.

If you are someone who really will always feel like everyone has more than you (and some people do feel like this) then I would say it is not for you....because who wants to feel like that all the time. I'm sure you don't though!

littlemissmuggins · 14/05/2015 00:25

Janus I found a new danger of sending your DCs to a private school - they very quickly become far posher than you!

My 5yo came home today telling me she'do been playing 'quoits'. I was all Confused until DH explained.

Soon she'll be asking me to drop her off round the corner and pulling me up in my annunciation.

Be warned!!

iseenodust · 14/05/2015 17:06

DS goes to an independent school nowhere near London/SE. The parents are a very mixed bunch. The majority are in mainstream employment eg doctors, solicitors, teachers, bog standard office jobs or self-employed eg estate agent. Plenty go on ski holidays but many also receive financial assistance with fees.
DS and I have had a conversation about a car is a car and all get you from A to B. Some are old, filled with dog hair (mine) & some private plated Range Rovers...but doesn't tell you about the kindness of the driver.

Janus · 15/05/2015 16:46

Oh god, we have got into our 4th choice school which is a lovely, small village school. I am over the moon (I loved it when we went to view it after we found out we hadn't got in our first 3 choices) my husband did too. He is now standing firm that he wants private but I want the little village school. How on earth can we compromise on this???
I worry on various levels, hear me out if you can bear it!:
3 siblings (all girls) have gone to state as that what we could afford and we are very happy with that, if we send last child (a boy) to private school may the girls not query in life why the boy was sent down this route??
He will have ridiculously more holiday than the girls, that will cheese them off and be a logistical nightmare of school runs dragging him along.
The fourth choice is a lovely, nurturing, school, it's not a 'that will do' choice.

His argument is predominantly that we should do the best for our child, my argument is how can we guarantee that is private?

My head really bloody hurts. I am upset and exhausted by all this school nonsense.

Any thoughts?

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