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Catbat77 · 2015-05-11T11:03:43+00:00

I have a very nervous dd this morning, wanted to hear other parents thoughts or experiences this week!

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Feenie · 11/05/2015 21:54

They were made to promise they would revise over the weekend

What is wrong with people?!!!

madhairday · 11/05/2015 21:55

Ds is entered for all the l6 papers. He was fine this morning but tearful at home time. He said the papers had been fine - both l3-5 and L6 - but he was stressed at the thought of the rest of the week. We've not made any fuss, just reassured him that we're really not interested in whether he gets the level 6, only in his effort, which he always puts in.

Hes just come in from scouts and seems more relaxed so that's good.

All the best to all your year sixes this week.

madhairday · 11/05/2015 22:00

Thankfully his school haven't been too bad - asking them to revise over the weekend is horrible :( (liked your response to that ethethe)

Ours only gave extra L6 reading classes. They are entering a substantial number but it's an unusually bright cohort so will look different to other years.

Only 2 children in our Lea got L6 reading last year - and none in our school - so reassuring ds about it!

kitnkaboodle · 12/05/2015 00:06

Whoops - had my own thread deleted for mentioning details of the L6 Reading this afternoon. Didn't realise!

Anyway ... glad to read all this. My daughter was one of 3 great hopes for her school to finally pass the L6 Reading. She also came home saying it had been really hard and harder than the past papers. Looks like we're all in the same boat.

Shame on all the schools getting kids to revise and giving them past papers over the weekend. It's not GCSEs, for God's sake.

I'm puzzled - this 0.5% pass rate for the Level 6 Reading. Is that

0.5% of all Year 6 kids overall or
0.5% of those who sit the test (in which case it must be a crap test!!)

In either case - what is the bleedin' point?? Daughters' school has been getting kids to sit it since it was introduced. This year they were the most confident of finally getting a pass. We'll see.

When my bookworm DD1 did it 2 years ago I posted to ask how many had actually passed it (cos she didn't). In the parallel world that is Mumsnet, there were seemingly lots of parents whose kids did that year

mrz · 12/05/2015 05:50

Yes it's 0.18% of children sitting the KS2 tests that year.
We asked our L6 readers and their parents and took the decision not to enter any pupils this year. They would have achievedLevel 6 within the first term of Y7 but there won't be any levels so it really doesn't matter

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Catbat77 · 12/05/2015 08:29

Wow 0.18 % of children? You mean doing level 6? Or doing sats at all?

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canny1234 · 12/05/2015 08:55

I have one twin doing the 3-5 papers only and one doing the level 6 as well.All the level 6 Maths group have been put in for all other level 6 papers.Even though they have had no extra teaching in these other topics.I'm not quite sure of the purpose of all these tests.Especially as no one in the county was awarded a level 6 reading last year.
Ds1 was given 10 minutes extra time due to his Dyslexia which was useful apparently.
I'm more worried about ds1 and SATs than dd1 doing her GCSE's bizarrely.Even though the SATs really don't matter to them as they are not going to state schools.He still wants to do well ( has been indoctrinated).

slicedfinger · 12/05/2015 09:07

I just read in the paper that only a selection of the questions are actually marked, and that this is quite normal in exams. I had absolutely no idea!!! No wonder they get then back so quickly.

thankgoditsover · 12/05/2015 09:33

Madhair - my son is the same - worried about the prospect of another three days. He said there were five tests today.

My husband went to watch football match last night and saw y6 boy who's had issues (temp exclusions, bullying, violence etc). Match finished at 10pm! No way will he get a 4, yet school will be blamed when it's a much bigger economic and social issue. So unfair.

var123 · 12/05/2015 09:34

0.18% of year 6 children who are eligible for doing sats (i.e anyone who can get at least a level 3).

9 IN 5000???

How many children are there in year 6 across the whole of England today? It must be incredibly rare to meet a child who cab get a level 6 in reading.

Does anyone know the numbers for today's level 6 SPAG?

kitnkaboodle · 12/05/2015 09:37

Mrz - sorry to be dense, but I'm still finding it hard to understand the results.

Given that ALL Y6 children do KS2 SATS, then is it correct to say that it's 0.5% (or lower, it seems!) of the whole cohort who will achieve Level 6 in Reading??

I think I've got that right, in which case:

how many children per year does that actually equate to?
(again!) what is the bleedin' point!!!?

var123 · 12/05/2015 09:37

I just looked it up, 4% passed the level 6 SPAG last year.

kitnkaboodle · 12/05/2015 09:44

If those calculations are right, and it's less than 10 in every few thousand who achieve the Reading, then there must have been a very select group posting their kids' results when I enquired 2 years ago! Either that or they were confusing the Reading/Writing results. I gather that the Writing is reasonably achievable

Kay34 · 12/05/2015 09:57

Kitnkaboodle

Level 6 is not the same as Year 6. At Year 6 pupils are expected to be level 4 and above. If pupils are level 6 they are way ahead of their year group.

Level 6 is about average for a 14 year old which explains the spread of numbers.

Level Comments
Level W Working towards level 1, very weak
Level 1 Average for a typical 5 year old
Level 2 Average for a typical 7 year old
Level 3 Average for a typical 9 year old
Level 4 Average for a typical 11 year old
Level 5 Average for a typical 13 year old
Level 6 Average for a typical 14 year old
Level 7 Above average for typical 14 yr old
Level 8 Only available in maths

Within the levels the teachers break down the results to a b and c with a being the highest.

SeattleGraceMercyDeath · 12/05/2015 09:58

My DD isn't sitting any L6 papers, she's a solid 5 across the board but tends to fall to pieces in a test environment, it's not nerves (as she quite genuinely couldn't give two hoots) she just treats everything as a race! The only advice I've had for her the last 2 mornings is READ the question. Read it 3 times. Don't answer the question you think they are asking, answer the one they are actually asking!! She said yesterday went fine. That was as much as I could get out of her!.

redskybynight · 12/05/2015 10:07

My DC's school (124 in year group) isn't even entering any children for Level 6 Reading. As ever, I think you get a very skewed perception of reality on MN. (for comparison they do enter DC for Level 6 maths, and last year 4 children achieved this. Overall they hit national average or just below for KS2 SATs so NOT a high achieving school)

var123 · 12/05/2015 10:15

Level Comments
Level W Working towards level 1, very weak
Level 1 Average for a typical 5 year old
Level 2 Average for a typical 7 year old
Level 3 Average for a typical 9 year old
Level 4 Average for a typical 11 year old
Level 5 Average for a typical 13 year old
Level 6 Average for a typical 14 year old
Level 7 Above average for typical 14 yr old
Level 8 Only available in maths

I think we need to define average here (and typical): these are levels to reach or exceed if you are not in the bottom 20%.

MirandaWest · 12/05/2015 10:18

I have no idea about ks2 SATS marking slicedfinger but my mum used to mark ks3 SATS when they happened and they both mark a level papers. There is no question of any answers being missed out. The reason the results come back quickly is because the markers work quickly, not because anything is omitted.

SlightlyJadedJack · 12/05/2015 10:20

I'm a bit confused. MY DS is sitting the L6 Maths (17 put in for it) which is fine as he's very good with maths but they have also put him in for L6 Reading (only 2 boys and 4 girls sitting it) but not for the writing or SPaG which he is very good at. I can't understand why his school would put him forward for the paper with his least chance of success on the English side, his chances at SPaG would be much, much better especially looking at the statistics.

Oh well, none of it matters really does it, the secondaries will all reassess come Yr 7.

MirandaWest · 12/05/2015 10:21

On the level 6 question my DSs school has 35 in the year group. 7 have been entered for maths level 6 and 2 for Spag and reading English. Don't know about the writing element. I've been involved with the level 6 maths preparation in a parent helper way and I'd say that 2 or 3 should get level 6 maths but it could be more or fewer of them (have to admit I hope DS will be one of them but the world won't stop turning if he isn't).

SlightlyJadedJack · 12/05/2015 10:22

Seattle, that's the only advice I gave DS too. Read the question and then read it again. Oh and that it's not a race - he has a tendency to want to finish papers before everyone else like that will somehow be of benefit!

Kay34 · 12/05/2015 10:45

Should also say that we have told DS that SATS are to meaure how well the teachers have taught him, rather than to measure him. It takes away the pressure and is probably true.

SeattleGraceMercyDeath · 12/05/2015 10:47

Glad it's not just my kid!

How does everyone know how many children have been put forward for L6 in their year? I haven't a clue about how many kids have been put forward in DD's year, but then I have been careful botto out too much emphasis on the whole thing.

SlightlyJadedJack · 12/05/2015 10:50

I only know how many because DS mentioned it yesterday.

MirandaWest · 12/05/2015 10:52

I only know as I've been doing some extra work with the level 6 maths ones and one of them who is also doing level 6 English mentioned it's her and another girl doing that.