Bit worried ds reading.

[Moonfacesmother]

Ds is in reception, he was reading dandelion readers and was on unit 17 which is apparently yellow band equivalent. He was doing well and has a lot of high frequency words and could sound out the unfamiliar words as the dandelion readers are entirely phonetic.

However apparently his school only have them to to unit 17 and now he's finished all the ones they have they have given him a red band reader and he can't read it! He can read the high frequency words but when he comes to words he can't sound out he's lost and he's getting frustrated because he could sound out the words in the other books. The book we have had this week has words like "tastes" "whoosh" "house" "dance"
I know you can in theory sound these out but ds doesn't seem to have covered split vowel digraphs at all so he struggles whenever he comes to one.

Any advice or is it basically like starting again?!

Moonfacesmother, love the nickname by the way, have you been able to get anything from this thread? Phonics threads always end up as argy bargy between all of the experts! Bit of a pain really as they forget what the original question was.
I would suggest that you make an appointment to see the teacher and talk through your concerns and questions. That is what I would hope oarents of cbildren I teach would feel able to do.

Parents not oarents of course.

Phonics threads always end up as argy bargy between all of the experts

Only one expert has posted thus far, and has been extremely helpful to the OP.

The other, self-proclaimed one is woefully ignorant of the latest reading research and is also extremely rude.

'Classroom assistant'

you still don't understand how children learn to read.

Soooo - how many hundreds of children have you taught to read, Bauhaus?

The basic point is that children can and do decode these words using their knowledge of sound spelling correspondences with ease

I don't need to clarify thanks

And Feenie - did mrz message you to 'back her up on here? Sad :(

Et tu Euphemia? I am an English teacher, GCSE examiner and private tutor so I've taught loads.

Yes it's about teaching children to read the ops child is learning to read and is being given texts containing words they can't read yet

No, Mrz. That's not so. Phonics International hold regular CPD courses to clarify this matter - alongside others that teachers, classroom assistants, etc. may have misunderstood. They also have a forum that you may find helpful: www.phonicsinternational.com/forum/index.php

mrz is wrong and it is sad that she is too ignorant of her own subject to realise this.

No bauhausfan MHz didn't message anyone is that what you do?

I don't use phonicsinternation so it's not relevant

It's very sad that those responsible for educating aren't keen to clarify misconceptions to ensure that they are not misguiding and undermining the principles that they're supposed to be passing onto our children.

Thanks for the suggestion but I teach CPD courses

You seem to be confusing high frequency words with sight words they aren't synonymous

Hahaha
Not that one - and clearly not appropriately. How many other teachers are you misinforming as a result of your misunderstanding. Even if you can't admit that you're not correct on this forum, please (for the good of those you're teaching - as well as the parents and teachers you're influencing on the CPD courses that you're running), clarify things at source.

Perhaps you need to clarify what high frequency words are

No confusion there. I'm referring to those high frequency words that do not confirm to grapheme/morpheme correspondence - not to ALL HF words.
Since this is now of no use to OP and you're unable / unwilling to be gently guided on this one, I'll leave you to it. All the best.