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Read, write inc......anyone do this at school. Let's chat about it!

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Ruprekt · 11/10/2013 21:40

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HumphreyCobbler · 11/10/2013 21:41

I taught using it for a while if that is of any use to you?

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Ruprekt · 11/10/2013 22:12

Had some training today for it but only doing it as intervention for y3 and not whole school. Think it is a drop in the ocean really.

Did the children make good progress?

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NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 11/10/2013 22:15

We do this in the infants at my school. Seems to get good results but god, is it boring to teach.

spanieleyes · 11/10/2013 22:17

We use it as a whole school programme-RWI in infants and Fresh Start in Juniors. Our year 1's scored 93% on the phonics test last year-which includes 13% of children on the special needs register and 19% EAL.

Fairenuff · 11/10/2013 22:20

We used it, it was great. Needed a lot of staff to cover all the groups and was a timetabling nightmare but very successful with the children. Now it's used mostly just in KS1 as all KS2 children were taught this way, excepting those new to the school.

Not popular with parents though because the books were seen as 'too easy' and parents were not sure about how to 'sound out' words correctly.

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Ruprekt · 11/10/2013 22:31

Spanieleyes...wow! Great results.

Think we need to put more money into it then.

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spanieleyes · 11/10/2013 22:37

Actually, in a small school the missing 7% was one child-one of the EAL children who joined us at Christmas not speaking any English! It is apparently a good programme ( I teach yr 5/6 so have no direct experience of teaching it) but it is deadly dull to teach!

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Ruprekt · 11/10/2013 22:39

I agree it is deadly dull to teach!

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spanieleyes · 11/10/2013 22:41

And I'm not into "whooshing" and "shooshing" either so I'd be pretty poor at it

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Ruprekt · 11/10/2013 22:50

Ugh! Firework clap....marshmallow clap....micro wave... Not my thang tho I am enthusiastic!

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spanieleyes · 11/10/2013 22:51

That's why I teach yr 5/6-so I don't have to be enthusiastic

Fairenuff · 11/10/2013 22:51

Yeah, we don't do those anymore. Except the marshmallow one sometimes 'cos it's quiet

Fairenuff · 11/10/2013 22:54

Oh, and there are loads of mistakes in the books. One of them (a dog I think) is referred to by a different name in the 'questions to read and answer'.

If you get the grapheme cards, lots of those were missing too.

simpson · 11/10/2013 23:06

I volunteer in a school that uses RWI (3rd year they have been using it, previously using JP) and they report a massive difference in results.

Ooh yes on the marshmallow clap thing! But all the kids seem to love Fred (bless him).

Agree that it is a bit dull but my DD (not at the school I volunteer in) would have preferred it as she found the songs/rhymes with JP an unnecessary thing to learn, she just wanted to know the sounds.

christinarossetti · 11/10/2013 23:51

As above. Dull as dishwater to teach, time tabling nightmare but rapidly improved literacy. The kids don't seem to find it dull though.

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Ruprekt · 12/10/2013 19:11

I have been teaching it for a term or so THEN I had the training and realised there was so much more to it!

Kids do love it and enjoy marking their own learning.

Do you all do it for a full hour or for part of the literacy hour?

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missmapp · 12/10/2013 19:14

At our school KS1 and those under a 2a in reading do it for a full hour and then do literacy aswell ( don't ask, timetables are a nightmare) results are good but it takes a lot of staff and rooms!!

I teach in Yr 6, so no direct experience, but see the success in data with my lit lead hat on.

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Ruprekt · 12/10/2013 19:16

Ooh missmapp.....as Lit leader, do you do the handwriting policy in school? Just wondered.

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missmapp · 12/10/2013 19:21

Yes, and we have changed it to fit RWI. We now don't lead into letters, only do a flick at the end. Also, letters don't have to start on the line. We follow the RWI letter formation and add a flick to join.

I used the handwriting bit on the RWI cd rom to help create a policy and letter guide.

hels71 · 12/10/2013 19:37

School I teach in does it. Has worked wonders with reading levels across KS1. Children all seem to love it. Is a nightmare to organise at first needing lots of groups/teachers/tas/spaces but once up and running runs like clockwork. Head very very on board too which helps.

DDs school claim to use it but refuse to split children across classes so it does not work anywhere near as well.............

If done needs to be done properly or it will not have the results....

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Ruprekt · 12/10/2013 19:54

Missmap....when you say letters dont need to start on the line.... What does that mean?

Am going to push for this in school as results do seem amazing?

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missmapp · 12/10/2013 21:18

I mean the start point of the letter doesn't need to be from the line- we had used the cursive style before and the letters all started with an in stroke on the line.

Now we follow the RWI letter formation and start the letters where the RWI 'story' starts the letter- this is v hard to explain without writing the letters, esp after a couple of glasses of wine!!

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Ruprekt · 12/10/2013 21:29

I understand.....thanks.

We are such a big school.....nursery to Y6 has 679 children! Not sure how they would even start to bring it in......

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BirdyBedtime · 12/10/2013 21:40

Really glad someone started a thread on this. Our infants have moved from JP to RWI this year. DD did JP and ORT and tbh her reading while ok isn't great. DS has had 6 weeks of RWI and is already spelling out cvc words and really quick with his sounds. The school is doing the full package and planning to split across classes after the holiday - does sound like a nightmare with all class teachers, LS teacher, TA and head taking groups. Time will tell but LS teacher has been using it with kids struggling with reading for the past few years and can't sing its praises enough.

simpson · 12/10/2013 22:12

Is it important to split across the classes then?

Does this mean year groups too?

The class I am in have not done this yet but I am in reception and they have only been full time for 2 weeks.

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