Teachers do not adhere to Statemented 1 to 1 support, do not believe in sub-levels, make APP assessments up....How much of what parents are told by schools about teaching is a box ticking exercise?

[Regards]

Following on from this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/1859219-Im-a-teacher-and-happy-to-answer-any-questions

and this:
community.tes.co.uk/tes_primary/f/36/t/381051.aspx?pi2132219857=1

I realised I was incredibly gullible when my DC first started school. What exactly should we believe concerning what the teachers tell us, how much is a PR job to cover up the ugly truth?

How do you do what regards?

Sorry, Star, should have said. It was a reply to getting the MN Campaign on this.

which bit don't you understand?

the LA has different responsibilities than the school, or anyone who works in it.

you are seeing anyone involved in your children's education as having the same responsibilities.

they all do different jobs. and they all need to focus on their bit of the job. because that the part they have authority to change.

which bit don't you understand?

the LA has different responsibilities than the school, or anyone who works in it.

you are seeing anyone involved in your children's education as having the same responsibilities.

they all do different jobs. and they all need to focus on their bit of system. because that is the part they have authority to change.

But if anyone is negligent or fraudulent regarding 'their bit' of the job they are acting against the law.

she's saying if the ta buggers off elsewhere the teacher can't be sued for it or if the headteacher or anyone else redeploys the only ta available the teacher can't magic another one out of thin air. you can have children with statements or who you know are meant to have someone with them turn up in your classroom without and have zero control or ability to do anything about it.

the teacher doesn't have control over these things and isn't the one who'd be sued or breaking the law because the decisions are made by others.

But YouAre's DP is the HT.

A teacher has control over the reporting they do and the records they keep.

A company has overall responsibility for the safety of its employees, but the duties of health and safety are delegated to managers. I'm not sure I understand why you think the contractor is allowed to flout the law simply because it is the company's responsibility

and he can only do what he can do. if, for example, like the poor woman on here before who was the ta for a child whose parents have bullied and berated her so much she's ready to quit, the ta walks out the head teacher won't be able to pull another out of his hat in a trice.

'the teacher doesn't have control over these things and isn't the one who'd be sued or breaking the law because the decisions are made by others.'

So why spend 15 pages justifying the decision in terms of professional judgements, costs and admitting you won't share the illegal practices you see with the parents of the vulnerable children who are suffering the consequences?

trust me i don't think any 'company' employees would put up with the health and safety conditions that teachers do. especially with parents like yourself who think the teacher should get battered quietly in the corner because if their child's ta helps her out they'll sue.

i don't know who the generic YOU that you're talking to is starlight. clearly you hate that YOU and have endless venom for them but the things you attribute to them i can't relate to at all so it can't be me. i suspect it's the charicature of the evil, all powerful teacher you've built up in your head.

She didn't say why they bullied her. I asked. It is out of order behaviour on the part of the parents but I imagine if she'd read this thread and seen the defensiveness and justifications for duping parents by schools or just had experience due to the fact that the practice is rife I absolutely don't blame the parents for being suspicious.

Swallowed NONE OF US PARENTS HAVE SAID THAT!!!!

but if parents like yourselves keep it up long enough you'll drive the last few decent teachers out of the profession because you'll have managed to make it absolutely unbearable because the final straw was having angry, arsy parents blaming the worlds ills on you and telling you you are a lying piece of shit and putting your profession in quotation marks. then what? wonder what classes run by workfare serfs will look like?

My parents, siblings and cousins are teachers. My Father until retirement was a teacher trainer at university.

I know it makes you feel better to suggest that my posts are somehow the result of an internal mental health issue but unfortunately they are based on experience and extensive knowledge, not to mention now added to by teachers contributions to this thread, which have confirmed pretty much all I have said.

yes they have said that sadly regards. that was one of the moments where all credibility was lost.

starlight you will confirmation of your beliefs everywhere you look.

5 outstanding schools were not good enough for you. clearly nothing will be.

Where has anyone here blamed all of the worlds ills on teachers?

(Though I don't doubt that this is pretty commonplace in the press and government, and probably explains, though not excuses the extreme defensiveness on this thread by teachers)

Those 5 schools were not good enough for any child with autism and if the other parents who have children with SEN there aren't continuously lied to about provision and level of support they would have removed their children too.

DS is in a 6th school. It is excellent. Not perfect, but I have no reason to remove him for the sake of his mental health and self-esteem, nor for fabrications or cover-ups by teachers. Sadly, they are my expectations.

Still think they are too high?

so you really don't think you've denigrated teachers, their profession, their integrity etc etc etc on this thread then starlight?

incidentally you might have apologised for that 'teachers' snipe.

and five school moves before the age of 6 did him good?

right so outstanding schools are not good enough for children with autism. are you saying then that ms education and autism are not a good fit?

I don't think being rescued from a damaging environment repeatedly does anyone good no. It saved him from further damage though.

Incidentally he started school at almost 3 due to his SEN.