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Teachers do not adhere to Statemented 1 to 1 support, do not believe in sub-levels, make APP assessments up....How much of what parents are told by schools about teaching is a box ticking exercise?

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Regards · 24/09/2013 14:05

Following on from this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/1859219-Im-a-teacher-and-happy-to-answer-any-questions

and this:
community.tes.co.uk/tes_primary/f/36/t/381051.aspx?pi2132219857=1

I realised I was incredibly gullible when my DC first started school. What exactly should we believe concerning what the teachers tell us, how much is a PR job to cover up the ugly truth?

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soapboxqueen · 26/09/2013 11:49

When does the new funding program come into play? Is it now or next year?

I know exactly what it feels like to take a child with additional needs into school when things aren't exactly working out very well. Thank you.

Regards · 26/09/2013 11:51

soapbox I don't come from a neutral standpoint though do I? Why lie about it?

I have a particular perspective because I have particular experiences. I wanted to know about other's experiences. I was upset although not entirely shocked about what I had read. Why was I not shocked? Because of what I had encountered in real life. I wanted to know about other's viewpoints. Sorry if it is scaremongering, I just wanted to know about what is out there.

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Regards · 26/09/2013 11:52

soapbox Now, being rolled out as we speak.

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Regards · 26/09/2013 11:54

I have not run through 5 schools in a year, nor my child. I don't judge people who have, I would be interested about what had happened.

swallowed if all you feel is 'meh' why bother to contribute?

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swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:01

to counter the scaremongering and hysteria and reassure parents capable of being rational that things really aren't as you are portraying and it really is possible for teachers and parents to work together positively.

i don't feel 'meh' about the topic but about your pretense of why you started this thread. re: maybe 'meh' wasn't the right word but it seemed more polite than saying 'bullshit'

swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:03

and there have been rational parents on here able to see pictures bigger than just their all consuming obsessiveness over their child's entitlement thank god. i find that quite reassuring.

i've been a teacher, i am a parent, i remained a rational human being across both positions. glad i'm not the only one.

Regards · 26/09/2013 12:03

Swallowed Why do you think I started this thread then?

Tell me about my own hidden motivations (that I know nothing about).

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swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:04

i thought it was teachers who didn't know what they think they know? and you who was able to read their minds...

Regards · 26/09/2013 12:05

swallowed Where did I say I was a mind reader?

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missinglalaland · 26/09/2013 12:06

Regards you sound overwrought and unreasonable.

You are attacking all the wrong people. To get whatever it is that you want, you are going to have to address your concerns with your child's school.

Regards · 26/09/2013 12:09

Oh. I didn't think I had actually attacked anyone. Asked questions, yes.

Who says I have not addressed my concerns?

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Regards · 26/09/2013 12:09

To the school that is.^

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swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:11

you are flagrantly attacking teachers and accusing them of all sorts of awful things and imagining levels of power and control onto them that they simply do not possess.

so yes you're attacking the wrong people. your issues are with a system controlled by people much further up the food chain, the teachers like you are simply trying to do their best with the craptastic situation of reality that they're left to fend for the children in their care in.

Regards · 26/09/2013 12:12

What about sugarhiccup's professional experience?

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swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:12

you're also, understandably, coming at this in a completely mono-focus way (my child, my child's needs, my child's rights, etc) that teachers just cannot have and should not have because they have to address the needs of all* children in their care.

missinglalaland · 26/09/2013 12:14

This is tedious, and frankly not helping anyone. I really do wish everyone's children the very best.

good bye

swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:15

well there's talk of squeezing and fiddling and other vague references that seem to point to 1:1 support sometimes being stretched to accommodating a bit more than just one child's needs. i appreciate from the mono focus that sounds awful but for those of us focusing on more than just our own children and knowing what it is actually like in a busy classroom it just sounds like the reality of a really stretched system being held up by adults who genuinely care about all of the children in the room that they are in.

Regards · 26/09/2013 12:16

Can you not see not adhering to a child Statement and not telling anyone about it is detrimental to that child, as it distorts their need? It also distorts the need of the other children who are being helped by a Statemented child's designated support, if no one is told.

I just want the TRUTH to be told.

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swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:16

and to hear someone saying they actually object to their child's ta sparing a minute to tell another child how to spell something is far more shocking to me. it reveals a level of selfishness and entitlement that would totally undermine a social process like education if allowed to continue.

swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:18

you're being told the truth - you just don't like it. the truth is they're doing their best in a stretched system. the truth is it's all bloody hands on deck and surviving as best as possible.

if that means a ta spares five minutes from intensive one on one in your faceness with your child to enable the lesson to continue then tough shit frankly.

welcome to reality.

swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:19

do you think ANY child gets every, single thing they need every single moment of the day?

Regards · 26/09/2013 12:19

swallowed I never said that though did I? Time and time again I have said I'm happy if a child can cope with the situation described above. But it needs to be communicated.

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Regards · 26/09/2013 12:20

I was pleased (extremely) when my child no longer needed 1 to 1 support.

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swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:21

every child can cope with that for gods sake. no child in ms school needs a person glued to their side staring straight at them 24hrs a day. as if this needs reporting? when your child is at home are you sat right beside them staring at them every minute? or are you able to give them your 1:1 support whilst also getting on with running your household or having a wee?

swallowedAfly · 26/09/2013 12:23

IF tas are being sent off to clean the loos instead of doing their jobs then YES obviously that's an issue.

if parents are getting their knickers in a knot because their child's ta has another child sitting at the table with them now and then who they help out a bit at the same time then no i'm afraid that is not an issue. unless the issue is the outrageous selfishness and sense of entitlement of the parent.

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