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Why does 'get squiggling' use 'aye, bee, cee' and alphablocks use 'ah, buh, kuh' ?

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peanutbuttersarnies · 15/05/2013 09:14

Is it cos get squiggling isn't using the correct sounds as per the Phonics ? I have no idea, cos my eldest is only 3. But he is starting to be interested in letters. And I have been trying to tell him the alphablock type sounds. But then get squiggling comes on and confuses the situation!

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zzzzz · 15/05/2013 18:04

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mrz · 15/05/2013 18:12

You can't read words using letter names.

learnandsay · 15/05/2013 18:14

UN, RSPCA, TFL,

mrz · 15/05/2013 18:16

Sorry to tell you but they aren't words learnandsay

learnandsay · 15/05/2013 18:18

They are according to my dictionary which describes a word as an articulate sound uttered by a human.

mrz · 15/05/2013 18:18

They are acronyms ...

learnandsay · 15/05/2013 18:22

...which is a subset of the superset of words.

HumphreyCobbler · 15/05/2013 18:23

Or initialisms? UN or RSPCA are initialisms I think. Certainly not words.

learnandsay · 15/05/2013 18:29

Oxford Dictionary, word: Something that is or has been said; an utterance, a statement, a speech, a remark.

mrz · 15/05/2013 18:30

try looking up acronym!

mrz · 15/05/2013 18:31

and lots of utterances aren't words

learnandsay · 15/05/2013 18:31

It doesn't matter; they're words. That's the point.

HumphreyCobbler · 15/05/2013 18:31

ime lots of struggling readers do know many more letter names than sounds. It doesn't seem to help them much Hmm

Lioninthesun · 15/05/2013 18:32

'Get Squiggling' annoys me - why call them 'squiggle sticks' and not crayons? Or pencils?

mrz · 15/05/2013 18:35

But they aren't words learnandsay that is the point!

AThingInYourLife · 15/05/2013 18:36
Confused

alphablocks uses letter names *and sounds.

The letter characters are named after their letter - ay, bee, cee etc

But they make the sounds their letter (or letter combination) makes.

I blame alphablocks for DD2's letter Old McDonald.

"Old McDonald had a farm ee-eye ee-eye oh

And on that farm he had an A (ay) ee-eye ee-eye oh

With an "ah ah" here and an "ah ah" there, here an ah there an ah everywhere an ah ah."

And so on...

:o

LauraPashley · 15/05/2013 18:39

Mrz you are being a million miles more patient than I would at this stage in the conversation Grin

I think knowing C-a-t (sounds) is slightly more relevant than knowing RSPCA learnandsay?!!

JollyOrangeGiant · 15/05/2013 18:50

I write my child's name 'Name'. Surely this is how most people will write it, rather than 'name' as proper nouns should be capitalised.

LindyHemming · 15/05/2013 19:07

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learnandsay · 15/05/2013 19:21

Well, OK, mrz. You just make up your own definitions when the dictionary definitions don't suit you.

LindyHemming · 15/05/2013 19:28

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learnandsay · 15/05/2013 19:33

How close they are to each other.

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steppemum · 15/05/2013 19:42

the point of learning phonics (which agreed is not perfect) is that they learn i is short, and then they learn that in a split i-e it is long.

dd2 is learning a much stronger phonic system than ds or dd1, and it is feeding into her spelling already (reception) so her writing is very logical and easy to read. For every new sound they learn, that feeds into reading and writing.
So they have already learned the oi sound as in soil. Now they have learned that at the end of a word it is oy. So she now, with confidence spells the two correctly.

listing exceptions to the rule doesn't alter the helpfulness of knowing the rule

steppemum · 15/05/2013 19:44

sorry yes your child's name should be Name.

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