Stop Schools Cheating Please

[twiggles]

Whatever your child is like, some primary schools and nurseries are pretending children start off at the low end, so they can pretend to inspectors of private and state schools that the child has developed only because of their teaching. If your child's advanced , some schools in rich areas take it out on the child. They won't bother giving the child attention, because the child's advanced, so they let the child coast downwards. But they give reports in writing about the child that pretend the child has started off at a low point in development and then got much better because of the teaching at the school....when the fact is the child was able to read or write when the child started at the school and as the school is giving the child little attention, the child has coasted downwards. Tha's what many schools do so they can pretend they've developed everything in the child, they want all children to be the same standard, like a photocopier. Poor children. Some teachers admit they're cheating and don't take the reports seriously and write them to impress inspectors. This is happending all over the show and I can't understand why inspectors are allowing them to get away with it. If parents start grading teachers in the school every three months the teachers won't be able to hide what's going on to the inspectors and teachers who are pretending might stop. Teachers that aren't giving inspectors the facts need to be stopped...they're not giving children an honest education.

Which posts suggest any of that??

I see we are in a pattern of dropping in every day to say something randomly insulting about teachers...

Which, bizarrely, is permissable because she is insulting a group.

But we can't be as rude or as ignorant back to her without getting deleted.

Actually twiggles it's only you we don't hold in high esteem (or even low esteem) as you clearly have your own axe to grind (as well as rising from the dead every January to repeat your unfounded ramblings) ...barking!

That's exactly the irony I spotted, Feenie!

Totally, mrz!

OH MY GOD! Has the barking one op still not produced any evidence, or even a little link?

OP, as far as I know, I'm still not a teacher. I thought that I might have magically qualified since my post of the 20th at 19:14, but it appears not . On the bright side, it means that you can furnish me with evidence of your assertions with impugnity. You can guarantee that I am not a member of the descried profession and therefore have no personal axe to grind, merely reasonable concern that my daughter may be subject to the vagaries of the professionals to whom I (perhaps mistakenly) entrust her each week day.

Please help me make a rational decision about my child's future. I beg you, op, please do not be instrumental in leaving my child flailing in the wilderness.

I've never seen such a funny annual zombie. This thread is making my week. Will we make it to 1000 posts - still without any links or evidence?

I especially love the 'compulsory service' bit - as if teachers go into the profession kicking and screaming, are chained to their classrooms for the duration and must be compelled to do their job at every time because they hate children and want to put them down at every turn to make themselves look good.

Whereas of course they tend to go into the profession because they want to bring out the potential of children and young people, and in the process of doing so put up with lack of resources, tricky parents, children with a range of needs, gifts and talents, paranoid scrutiny from the Idiot Gove and of course the OP herself.

Teachers deserve for everything they cope with.

The OP makes Gove sound quite rational

Present your evidence to the papers. They would love a story like this.

I have read all your posts and can't seem to find where you say how you know all this, what your evidence is, etc. How can you prove that what you are saying is true?

And no. I am not a teacher.

I am just interested in evidence.

Good point, mrz. Which is quite scary, really.

or perhaps the OP is Mr Gove

Had crossed my mind, given the ignoring of anyone at all with a sensible opinion.

Stark similarities there.

I have also wondered whether twiggles is a random sentence generator - a computer programme, triggered by date, which produces seemingly coherent sentences but which of course has no feedback loop in to respond to the posts of others....

By Gove, I think she's got it!

Perhaps Gove too is a random sentence generator it would explain some of his daft pronouncements.

No, his is a random nonsense generator..

Teacher, I was thinking that, too. What fun!

Imho teachers should be left to teach, they are the experts, not parents!! Parents need to support the teachers - of course there are bad 'uns but that goes for all walks of life! I have the utmost respect for all they do, a lot of parents haven't got the foggiest as to what goes on behind the scenes. As for parents grading teachers ... um, I don't think that would work, do you??!! I can just imagine some of the comments ...

It's clear that some teachers on this thread underestimate those for whom they are providing a service. Imagine if a hotel had to disregard all those it was providing a service for and seek grading from staff they work only with or from a conglomerate only. Those who know most are those who use the service regularly and they are independent of the industry. Parents are the best resource we have. The question here is why do some teachers fear what their providers of a job will say about them. Letting Parents grade teachers could help to spot the best and the worst. That kind of gauge could be like gold dust. And it's free.

Because parents don't use the school; children do.

How are they going to do that? Parents are not really the service user, are they; the children are. Unless you propose that up to 60 parents join their children in the classroom so that they can grade the teachers based on first hand, rather than second hand, experience. Might become a little overcrowded!

Even if parents did sit in classrooms they still wouldn't be able to grade the teachers because parents know most of the stuff already and teaching is about teaching things you don't already know. So parents still wouldn't be able to judge whether the teachers were teaching effectively or not.

The only solution would be to have the teachers teach the parents things they don't already know like how to write anti virus software and how to speak Mandarin Chinese.