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3+ 4+ 5+ 7+ support thread 2013

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mumteacher · 19/12/2012 22:26

I have had a number of messages asking if I have any spaces in my classes. I'm really sorry but I have been at full capacity for some time now.

However, I do appreciate that this is a very stressful time of year for parents who have children sitting these private school assessments in January 2013. So, I'm hoping that by setting up this support group thread I can help by answering some questions you have about these assessments.

Hopefully this thread will also contain some useful insight from the experiences of parents who have already been through the process.

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mumteacher · 20/01/2013 08:42

There seems to be a lot people desperate to air their views on tutoring and schools.

I am going to start another thread so that this thread can be left open and clear for parents who want/need help with assessments.

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mumteacher · 20/01/2013 09:02

Horsemadmum, lesmisfan knock yourself out x

Here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/primary/1663735-Is-tutoring-for-3-4-5-7-now-the-norm

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mumteacher · 20/01/2013 09:03
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inkspotty · 20/01/2013 12:05

There's lots of talk here about north london assessments, but does anyone have any experience of prep for the 7+ entrance requirements for LEH in Hampton, south west London? Mumteacher - have you experience of pupils sitting for this school?
Should I expect the entry process to be as competitive as for Habs or NLCS? Also keen to see if those who do enter are tutored to get in and tutored to stay in, to guarantee a place at 11, as I hear from the schoolgate grapevine that it is no way guaranteed that you can stay until 18 if you enter at 7?
Any info would be very gratefully received..

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mumteacher · 20/01/2013 20:19

Hasn't the 7+ assessment for Leh already come and gone?

Entry at 7+ a lot of these schools doesn't mean a guaranteed place passed 11+. The students already at the school will have to sit the 11+ exam just like external students. The school does prepare the children within the school well. Plus if they have any concerns they will let you know early on.

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inkspotty · 20/01/2013 20:49

Yes, but we won't apply until this time next year. I'm trying to work out if it's as competitive as the north London entrance exams at 7 and wondering how much prep I should do with my dd throughout year 1.

The students already at the school will have to sit the 11+ exam just like external students. This contradicts my understanding. Have you prepared an internal girl for 11+? I thought the junior girls DON'T sit the external exam like the others, they sit their own internal exam in year five instead. So IF our DD got in via the 7+ she'd effectively have to sit a 10+ in order to stay on.
Is there anyone on this thread with inside knowledge of LEH to clarify?

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sybilwibble · 20/01/2013 21:08

I know the school well, as I have dds at the school in both junior and senior. I don't have any personal knowledge of Habs or NLCS but entry into LEH is very tough indeed, at both 7 and 11.

The school stopped making it's junior girls sit the 11+ quite some time ago, probably about 4-5 yrs back. They do sit their own senior entrance exam in yr 5, so a 10+ as you;ve been told. Because of this, it appears the junior 7+ has become even more popular.

My experience is that there's not so much tutoring as such at 7+ but lots of parental assistance to get girls to the required standard. Some girls are tutored for entry of course..

As the girls head towards the yr five exams, tutoring steps up, or kicks in for some/many. It's not common knowledge, the parents don't discuss it in my experience, but the girls tell each other about their tutors by this age. Year 5 is "the big deciding year" and those that don't get offered a place into the senior school then have a chance to go and sit other entrance exams. Year six seems to be a bit of a coasting year for the juniors if they have made the grade and been offered a place in seniors, in contrast to other girls of this age who have the 11+ pressure.

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mumteacher · 20/01/2013 21:10

I don't prep children once they are in the school.

Sorry didn't mean to confuse you. The papers may differ but the girls will have to sit an examination. Ring the school and ask them.This kind of information they will give and that why 'you've heard it from the horse's mouth' so to speak.

Whilst you're on the phone to them you could also ask how many sat the 7+ this year to give you a better idea of competition.

My advice to you for prep of 7+ is start early and do little chunks at a time.

Good luck x

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Sparkleandshine · 21/01/2013 10:50

My Ds is pretty average at his prep school, and has just taken the 6+, with the view that if his adjusted scores for the three tests should be 120+ for an assured place at the really good school we are hoping he will join at 11.

He scored 105, 100 and 100 (which is no real surprise) these were age adjusted for December child - test taken in November so he was 6y11m.

However he got 25/28 for maths which translated to 105 - is it really the case that he would have had to get 100% basically to get adjusted 120 score?

Then he is due to take a 7+ in June, would you recommend I do anything? I'm not inclined to push it as feel he has yet to 'grow up', he has only just started growing and losing teeth and although bright seems quite young for his age. Teacher made a big thing of it being hard for him due to the age adjustment and poor spelling. What do you recommend?

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mumteacher · 22/01/2013 16:39

5+ results for Habs girls are out for all those who have been waiting!

The weather has meant delayed post in some area and hence the school will let you have results over the phone if you haven't yet got a letter x

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impatientmum · 23/01/2013 15:12

Mum teacher do you know if you have a brother at habs does it get you a priority at habs girls for 4+?

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mumteacher · 23/01/2013 16:27

That would be great wouldn't it? ;)

Both schools work independently of each other. The boys school do however look like they take an interest in the fact that you have a daughetr at the girls schools but not at the girls schools!

Are you through to round 2 at Habs with a boy already at their boys school?

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impatientmum · 23/01/2013 17:37

I thought so! Yes I have a son at habs boys. I do remember when he sat his 7+ assessments they did say that all boys with sisters at the girls school will get an interview ( but not necessarily a place) but they didn't really mention that at the girls school.

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Turniphead1 · 24/01/2013 13:17

Letters are out today from Wminster 7+. My DS has to go back for second stage on Tuesday. Now, how to get him not to say that he doesn't want to go and wants to go to the same school as his sister? Hmmm.

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mumteacher · 26/01/2013 08:56

Turnip head that's wonderful well done x

Schools will expect the child to be sitting a number if assessments.

And lucky for you they don't give out places on the child preference of school! ;)

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TennisMom · 26/01/2013 10:33

Turniphead1, what time is your interview on Tuesday? I am trying to determine how many groups they are interviewing on Day 1 and Day 2. Our interview is on Day 1.

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Turniphead1 · 26/01/2013 14:34

11am. When are you?

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TennisMom · 26/01/2013 18:11

11am Day 1 as well. Looks like this is the first group of boys they are bringing in that day and for the process overall. Very good sign but nothing is guaranteed, of course, until you have that letter in your hand.

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mumteacher · 27/01/2013 23:03

Well done interview on day 1 so a real positive start. X

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traintracks · 02/02/2013 18:40

Good luck to everyone waiting for the post on Tuesday morning. Can't wait for it all to be over!

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TennisMom · 02/02/2013 22:58

traintracks, which school are you waiting to hear from on Tuesday?

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traintracks · 03/02/2013 00:11

All the N London girls schools post their 4+ letters on Monday to arrive Tuesday e.g. shhs, Nlcs, St Christopher's, channing etc

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andsowewait · 03/02/2013 00:48

Hello mumteacher what's your advice when given a place on the reserve list - a) how to discuss with the child and b) what the chances of getting a firm place are? We are on the 7+ reserve list at Highgate. Any idea how many are likely to be on the list? Will it be down to an issue from the interview? We were so pleased to get through the first stage it feels so near and so far. Having to wait some more to find out if we are in or not is really awful!

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mumteacher · 04/02/2013 20:16

Hoping the post man brings good news tomorrow!

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mumteacher · 05/02/2013 22:46

4+ results out for north London schools. How did you all do?

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