if your dc came down poorly at school with a high temp would you expect to be called?

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so they can be picked up early?
The teacher came out with ds and said he wasnt feeling well since lunch time,i could see in his cheeks he had a temp and felt him,he was boiling and he started crying his ear hurt .i had to carry him the 5 minute walk home (he's 6 so felt like 30mins)
Hes ok now after some medicine but im so angry they didnt phone me

No, we share a school nurse with about 5 other schools and she only works 3 days a week anyway. We call her in for appointments - to meet with parents etc but she doesn't have a regular slot when she visits. She observes children in class from time to time to offer advice.

OP, I guarantee that you would be contacted in the instance of a 'medical emergency' but you yourself say that he was ok 'after some medicine'. We can't prevent children from getting ill, and by all means grumble at school tomorrow, but you'll be far more successful if you simply let them know that your the sort of patent that wants contacting in these situations rather than school keeping an eye on your son. If he'd have vomitted or had upset stomach you'd definitely have been contacted. Aches and pains are a harder judgement call, and often parents get called and the following day we hear of how DC was running round happily when they got home. Like I say- damned if you do and damned if you don't.

I am staggered to hear that there are any schools that are able to employ a full-time nurse? What does she do all day? Wander round the classes feeling foreheads and checking for nits? Surely there can't be that many ill children each day?

thank you all that wished him well.
been to out of hours and got antibiotics.
I've chilled out abit now he's abit happier.melted my heartstrings to see him in such pain.
im not happy wit school for letting him suffer all afternoon,they knew he was unwell,he's told me since that they had pe this afternoon but he sat out,didn't even get changed.
i will just let them know how poorly he was and id rather be called in future

The DDs primary school had a guideline which went "If they need Calpol to get through the day at school, then they should be at home".

Even if all he needed was Calpol, and the afternoon on the sofa, I'd have expected a call.

It's school, not childcare, so if he isn't capable of learning (which he clearly wasn't) then he needs to be at home. And I'd have carried him home too OP.

Glad he's on the mend, and I'm sure his teacher won't mind you saying that you'd rather be called in future, I think sometimes it's hard for them to know.

Hmm, there is half way house between calling a parent to pick up a child and not calling at all, which is calling the parent for their advice, as they know the child best. I always ring family if in doubt, describe child and their symptoms, and then parent can advise as they see fit: usually they come to pick up or check, if they are in the local area, or give advice as to what they want us to do ( though we cant give non-prescription meds). Everyone's been pretty happy with this arrangement. Its shocking to pick up your child and find them unwell or injured with no prior warning, that's why I always ring (HT in medium sized primary)

Mum - hope he feels better soon...

All these schools that don't have a f/t nurse, what happens if a child falls over in playground and cuts themselves?? Not an emergency but who cleans them up if there is no nurse??

First aid trained teaching assistants.

Goodness, I thought it was school not Bootcamp. It my child is ill I expect a call. It's my job to take care of a sick child, not theirs.

I would want to get a call and would also be angry in your situation - but I know that I wouldn't get a call. A child practically has to have their leg fall off before they call the parents at our school Obviously some kids try it on and either fake illness or make a fuss of a minor thing, but the assumption at our school is always that that's what they're doing and it drives me BATTY. So many times my DD has come home really ill and said that when she spoke to the teacher she was just told "oh dear, go and have a drink of water and I'm sure it will be fine". Yes, you'd try that once on a child but surely if they KEEP saying they feel ill then you'd have to consider that they might mean it? Grrrrrr It actually stops me sending them in to school if I'm wavering over whether they're ill enough to stay home. If I could trust that my DD would be listened to then I'd send her in, knowing that she could come home if she really needed to - but the thought that she might have to stay there all day feeling dreadful sometimes makes me keep her off just in case.

Just another thing in a long line of stuff us teachers do wrong eh?

I'll miss my job while I'm off on maternity leave.

I would expect a call. Ear infectuion is very painful for children and it can get painful very soon (within half an hour or an hour). Even if they just need a calpol to ease the pain, they still need to get it and the teacher I think is not allowed to give any medication to a child without prior arrangement.

There is no excuse that there are 30 children in a class. My son has a herth condition that is good at the moment, but it can be very bad in any minute and if it is happening he won't get air and just collapse. If he won't get immidiate medical attention it can be fatal for him. So what should I expect? Because there are 30 children in the class the teacher will think it is ok that 1 child "sleep"? And at the end of the day they will tell me "sorry but we could not help him"? No there is no any excuse, they are responsible for each children. I understand that is not an easy job, but teacher need understand too that they are our children and of course we are worried about them and want to know everything what happens with them in the school, especially until they are so young.

I would ask the teacher to pay attention to it, if my child behave differently than usual.

There are always going to be times when teachers don't spot a sick child, because teachers are not medically trained. Or do you think that the teacher didn't call out of laziness?

So, mrz, if small child has complained of feeling unwell for several hours and has a high temperature, school shouldn't call parents if child will be OK after some Calpol? How does the school know whether child will be OK after Calpol, given that they aren't allowed to give any?

I've been called by the secretary for DD1's tummy ache (advised that it was almost certainly trapped wind because DD1 is prone to that) and for DS being pale and wan and not himself.

Cornzy, the teacher told the OP right away that her DS had been feeling unwell since lunchtime, and he was feeling too ill to do games, so he had been spotted.

If a chikd's been identified as too ill to join in with normal activities I'd expect the parents to be called.

Casey as a parent I wouldn't expect school to call me if my child complained of feeling unwell and was slightly flushed. Sorry but I trusted my children's teachers to know when it was necessary and when it wasn't.
Which child was identified as being too ill to join in with normal activities?

"Ear infectuion is very painful for children"

How was the teacher meant to know he had an ear infection? She's a teacher, not a doctor.

mrz, how would you feel if you trusted your children's teachers or other school staff to know when it was necessary- and they then didn't call you when it was necessary?

or if they ignored doctor's advice (which they had been given) and made a longstanding condition worse?

or told your child to her face that they didn't actually believe she was ill or disabled?

I have had the person in charge of medical room call me to pick up dd (who had a high temperature) only to then have her explain in a loud voice in dd's hearing why she didn't think she was ill at all. I have also been told by a headteacher (after supplying reams of medical advice) that "Of course we accept that corydd is ill but you can't expect us to be happy about it?"

How long should I have given it before I accepted that though MOST school staff are reliable and conscientious, there is (as in all professions) a small minority that is not, and that that was the situation I was dealing with. How long should one go on trusting? I went on far too long.

The problem in our case was not lazy teachers but a culture disseminated from the headteacher downwards, where any child who was often ill or had SN was seen as a nuisance and assumed to be in the wrong. Teachers were not ill intentioned but so frightened of the headteacher that they preferred letting a disabled child crawl on the floor to get to the loo rather than to challenge the HT's decision that the easy access loo was to be kept for visitors. I was asked several times by teachers if I could please bring something up with the HT "because I'd rather not". Personally, I can't understand that level of cowardice- but it did happen.

The same attitude was displayed towards children who fell ill at school: the default position was that they were likely to be shamming. The medical room was staffed by a secretary who was totally under the sway of the HT.

If I didn't trust the staff I wouldn't entrust my child to their care cory.
As a teacher I have sent children home on numerous occasions only to have parents complain.

Only a few days ago a colleague sent a child home, he had cried with pain from his ear and was hot and flushed only for his father to frog march him back to school to make him apologise for lying so that he could play on his play station teachers aren't doctors but it seems they are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

As a teacher I have done both the call home - for said child to perk up and the parent to be annoyed that they have been called out of work for just a bit of a grumble and have left the child with a bit of a comfort/reducing clothing and cold drink malarky if just a bit of a temp. In both situations I have been told I am wrong....we appreciate that parents work and to call them out unnecessarily is not always the best course of action. Sometime you have to judge it on a half hour/hourly basis and if this child was a bit unwell then I would've left him but I have also had ones who have started in tears come half an hour before sometime due to pain etc....so things can deteriorate as well as improve with their health. I often get parents who say if you still feel unwell your teacher will ring home and I will come and get you...that to a child is like offering them McDonalds...'mum says if I am not well I can go home - can I?' Nope! You get that question all day then off the child because they think if they say they are still feeling sick they will get a day off!