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if your dc came down poorly at school with a high temp would you expect to be called?

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mumineedapooooo · 18/09/2012 17:53

so they can be picked up early?
The teacher came out with ds and said he wasnt feeling well since lunch time,i could see in his cheeks he had a temp and felt him,he was boiling and he started crying his ear hurt .i had to carry him the 5 minute walk home (he's 6 so felt like 30mins)
Hes ok now after some medicine but im so angry they didnt phone me

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Schnullerbacke · 18/09/2012 19:41

I would too expect a call and I would not wish DD to be given Calpol at school - emergency or not.

mrz · 18/09/2012 19:41

If a doze of Calpol "makes it OK" then they are well enough to be in school.

mrz · 18/09/2012 19:43

dose

littlemiss06 · 18/09/2012 19:43

Yes Mrz as long as they've had the calpol and are no longer in pain, this child clearly was feeling really unwell and hadn't had calpol

Schnullerbacke · 18/09/2012 19:43

I'm confused Mrz but then I often am...

RaisinDEtre · 18/09/2012 19:43

littlemiss what we are saying is it ain't necessarily so; the child might not indicate they are in pain/might soldier on but crumple on sight of the parent/might be in a busy classroom being engaged in the lesson, can mean that they are distracted from feeling a bit ropey and thus not complain

as a parent you are utterly attuned to every nuance, reading your child's body language expertly; teachers cannot to the same degree

RaisinDEtre · 18/09/2012 19:46

the secondary schools round here each have a nurse, the rolls are 1000-1500 +

our village schools, 50 - 200 pupils, no nurse on site, one visits once a term (not half term) for drop in with parents

snowball3 · 18/09/2012 19:46

School Nurse! Even the "once a term if possible" visits have been stopped in our county. The only time we ever see a School Nurse is for the R/yr 6
weigh-ins.

RaisinDEtre · 18/09/2012 19:47

oh snowball it's crapola isn't it

IwishIwasmoreorganised · 18/09/2012 19:48

I don't know any schools that have a F/T school nurse.

I would hope to be called if either of our ds's felt ill at school unless there was only an hour of the day left. A whole afternoon feeling unwell in a busy classroom must be really unpleasant.

OP - hope your ds recovers quickly.

mrz · 18/09/2012 19:49

Schnullerbacke what I'm saying is ...if my child came out of school looking flushed, with a slight fever and complaining of earache and after I administered Calpol they werel OK I wouldn't have expected school to have contacted me.

Ragwort · 18/09/2012 19:50

Sometimes children can be adamant that 'they feel fine', 'they don't want to be singled out' and they just don't want to go home so I can understand why a teacher would not immediately make the call. I have been called once to get my DS (I thought he was faking it [gri] but he turned out to be genuinely unwell). He had an accident at school last week and refused to come home (I did get a call so I knew about it but was told it was not nearly serious enough for me to go in).

School nurses went out with the dark ages Grin.

mumineedapooooo · 18/09/2012 19:53

mrz so if your dc woke in the morning with a very high temp you would give them calpol and send them off to school?

i have been told by a teacher before they are not allowed to administer calpol etc whether thats true or not i dont know

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mumineedapooooo · 18/09/2012 20:01

yes he was 'ok' after calpol but isnt that what its for?
he wasnt ok when it started to wear off, sooner than the next dose due.
i am actually waiting for a call back from nhs direct because he is inconsolable after nurofen and calpol

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mrz · 18/09/2012 20:02

Teacher's aren't allowed to administer non prescription medicines mumineedapooooo.

It would depend how high the temperature and what other symptoms there were whether I would send my child to school.

juniper904 · 18/09/2012 20:11

Our receptionists act as the nurses. I sometimes send poorly children down to them, and they get send back up with a 'read in the book corner' message.

It sometimes takes a few goes before they call home.

clam · 18/09/2012 20:11

I don't think him "sinking into your arms" is necessarily a big deal, in that it could have partly been relief to see you and know that he could stop being stoic and collapse. Similarly, children who have been fine in class all day, can burst into tears when seeing their mums, about a fall-out they had at morning play.
Once I've had a class for a while, it's much easier to know the ones who, if they say they're ill, you phone immediately. Others are like creaking gates and always have one minor ailment or another. But three weeks into a new year, it's not the same. Children can sit alone on a bench at lunch time for all sorts of reasons. Doesn't mean they're cooking up a fever. Might have just fallen out with someone.
Also, he might have mentioned to the teacher that he didn't feel too good, and she said to see how it goes. Often children don't then come back to you and, in the hurly-burly of classroom life, it can be let go.

And it might be different in Reception, but we don't have any TAs in KS2 classes in the afternoons to make a phone call anyway. It would be a right production to get the office to call (when you can't leave the room yourself to ask them). Possible, I guess, in an emergency, but this doesn't sound like one.

Point is, I think, not to go in all guns blazing. Jus tmention he was really feeling rough by the time he got out of school and can they let you know another time as you're more than happy to collect him early.

clam · 18/09/2012 20:16

Sorry, should have said I hope he recovers soon. Ear infections (if that's what it is) can be horrid.

mrz · 18/09/2012 20:17

mumineedapooooo you asked how I would react if it were my child and I responded that I am probably the worst mother in the world.
I would not expect the school to contact me and I wouldn't have carried him home

dikkertjedap · 18/09/2012 20:23

I think that it is very fair to expect the school to call you.

However, at our school, it is unlikely that the parents would be called.

According to our school rules we are not allowed to take the temperature of a child as it could be constructed as harassment (I don't agree with this rule, but have been unable to get it removed). We are also not allowed to give children calpol/calprofen etc.

Basically, our school only contacts parents IME when:

  • child is very obviously hurt and needs to see a doctor asap (suspected fracture, head injury, wound which needs to be professionally treated, etc.)
  • tummy bugs
  • child has known medical condition and hence staff has been instructed to inform parents at specific events
  • child has a rash/suspected chickenpox or other infectious disease/meningitis concern

These would be the main reasons for us to call the parents. In the past, we have had very angry parents who were of the view that we unnecessarily disturbed them at work to pick up an ill child. The head and governors have therefore issued stricter guidelines to all staff re contacting parents.

dikkertjedap · 18/09/2012 20:27

To alleviate the earache it may help for him to lie on the painful ear on top of a hot water bottle wrapped in a soft towel (heat sometimes helps to make it less painful).

Normally nurofen (maximum doses spread out over 24 hours) takes the edge of the pain, if not I would see OOH as he may have a severe infection in need of antibiotics. Also, you may want to check if it hurts him a lot (excruciatingly) if you push on the little bone behind the ear. In the very unlikely event that this is the case, you should take him IMMEDIATELY to A&E.

Good luck, hopefully he gets better soon (also it can take a little while for the effect of nurofen to kick in - paracetamol does nothing for earache IME).

cansu · 18/09/2012 20:42

I don't see why you would get cross. I think it isn't always obvious how I'll a child is. Usually as soon as their mum appears they start to cry partly because they feel
Poorly and also because they want some sympathy and a hug. Completely normal. The fact that after a dose of carpool and some sympathy he was ok leads me to believe it is perhaps not a major illness. Anyway In your shoes I would probably simply ask school to ring you next time stressing that you would rather be called even if they are not sure it is serious. It really is that simple. You can guarantee some parents would prefer not to be called unless school was sure it was serious. it is hard to please everyone. I very much doubt that school staff deliberately set out to deny your child medical treatment or make him suffer.

CaptainVonTrapp · 18/09/2012 20:46

So does your school administer calpol mrz?

mrz · 18/09/2012 20:59

My children are older CaptainVonTrapp

simpson · 18/09/2012 21:34

I would like to think that my DC school would call me in this situation (and they have tbh, I gave DS calpol in the morning and he seemed fine and said he wanted to go in) and then I got a phone all at around 1.30 to come and get him.

But then I am lucky that their school has a full time school nurse (did not realise it was so rare).

However I would not be hugely put out if they didn't call me iyswim as DS rarely complains so they may not have realised...