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Telling the time and place value

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BrittaPerry · 16/09/2012 00:47

What are the best ways to teach these?

She is already startin to work out eg that 20 times 2 is 40, so i thought we shol maybe consolidate to check that she does acually know it, itswim.

With the time, we have pretty much mastered the little hand and tge seconds (because of the bloody beatles and 'a minute is a long time' in the Yellow Submarine film) but is there an accpted way to go about the rest?

Also, we have explaned times tables using buttons, and work thngs out using buttons at home, then recite times tables in dull bits of the day, and test when we play mastermind (long story) but what do i need to bear in mind?

Ths kind of basic maths was my weak point at school, so im not as confident as in other subjects. Is there a book?

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PastSellByDate · 16/09/2012 14:08

Hi BrittaPerry:

You haven't explained how old your DD is - but first can I introduce you to some useful webpages:

ambelside primary has a lovely maths webpage for KS1 here: www.amblesideprimaryschool.co.uk/Learning-Zone/Maths-Zone.html - there's a menu on the left which has main themes - including multiplication & telling time.

telling time on-line games (all free) here: www.amblesideprimaryschool.co.uk/Learning-Zone/Maths-Zone/Time.html

With telling time - if she has matered 1/4 to/ past and half past and has worked out minutes and seconds - then really it is working out coverting analogue clock times (the old fashioned clock face) with digital clock times (e.g. 10:15) - in particular you need to teach the 24 hour clock. So far (DD1 in Y5) being able to tell time to the second hasn't been an issue (we're at a o.k. state primary).

Other useful websites:

Woodland Junior School Maths Zone: www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/maths/ - again just scroll through various areas and try out the excercises. Now this is really intended for Y3 and above - but from what you say it sounds a bit like she may be ready for it.

Cool Maths games has all sorts of games for basic maths calculations here: www.coolmath4kids.com/0-arithmetic-help-lessons-practice.html

BBC Learning [BETA] pages: www.bbc.co.uk/schools/teachers/ - just select KS1 or KS2 in box at left centre of opening page and then select mathematics - this will link through to a page with games/ worksheets for various areas of the curriculum with an indication of which ages the material is suitable for. (NB this website gives access to all areas of curriculum - very useful for practice with concepts like grammar or aspects of history).

Mumsnet Learning pages has more about supporting maths and what is taught (here: www.mumsnet.com/learning/maths/maths-introduction-section-one). Also Musnet and Pearson have put in a link to Maths Champs which has games to strengthen understanding and mental maths here: www.mathschamps.co.uk/ (NB this is in development (BETA) and does seem to crash every now and then).

mumsnet also has a link through home learning to a nice multipication game here: www.mumsnet.com/learning/maths/interactive-times-tables-activity - which helps you to generate tables of desired size and step (1 = 1 - 100, 2 = 0 - 198 in steps of 2, 3 = 0 - 297 in steps of 3) and then you can go through with the highlighters and highlight mutliples. This is an excellent way of easily seeing patterns (so in a 1 - 100 square seeing all multiples of 2 - effectively even numbers or seeing that any number ending in 0 or 5 is a multiple of 5).

If your computer has a reasonable graphics card (this game makes my laptop run very hot) I would recommend Timez Attack (also Division & an BETA addition/ subtraction version is available). Now we only use the free version download, but there are more elaborate versions of avrying prices. Basically you're a little ogre (boy or girl you can chose) and you race through a dungeon or castle solving multiplication problems. You work through a problem and have a mini quiz and after solving a few of these you have a giant ogre quiz you on all the times tables you've been practicing. You start off as a player with a test, so the game starts exactly where you're at. It can be a bit stressful - DD2 a very girly girl in Y3 doesn't like the ogre at all and always squeels when he comes out, but it's helped her speed no end. INFO here: www.bigbrainz.com/

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I kind of got the impression from your OP that you don't enjoy maths - and certain found the saving multiplication for 'boring bits of the day' a bit concerning because you could be signalling these negative feelings toward maths to your DD, even if you don't mean to (and you clealry don't or you wouldn't be on here asking for ideas). I know it's a slog helping with maths (especially if it isn't your favourite subject) but I'm sure you know how important solid addition, subtraction, multiplication and division skills will be. Without them, there's a lot of senior school your DD just will never access.

If you really are struggling with supporting your DD in maths consider on-line tutorials like Mathletics, Math Whizz or Mathsfactor - all of which has been whole heartedly recommended here on Mumsnet by various parents (guilty of loving Mathsfactor here).

Most good quality newsagents also have workbooks & Mumsnet uses Pearson (link through Learning pages - just select age & English & Maths Workbooks). Basically in selecting look for books that don't just have lists of problems, but have very visually ways of explaining how to do the work - this really ensures that the underlying principles are solidly understood.

It is a slog teaching all these number bonds, multiplication facts etc... BUT I think all of us parents know this is a major building block for going on in any of the STEM (Science/ Technology/ Engineering/ Mathematics) subjects. And it's just so useful in all walks of life - nursing, surveying, working at a till/ stall pricing goods & making change, working out business or family budgets, etc...

I wish you all the best & HTH

PastSellByDate · 16/09/2012 14:11

Sorry Brittaperry:

Forgot to put up link on woodlands Junior Mathszone to place value games: www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/maths/interactive/numbers.htm#Place

HTH

BrittaPerry · 16/09/2012 14:26

Thanks :-). Will work my way through those.

By 'boring bits of the day' i mean as a game to keep her amused. So, walking places, waiting for the bus, long train journeys etc. the same kibds of times when we sing songs or whatecer.

Although, yes, maths really isn't my fvourite area.

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