Can your year 2 child read these words?

[ontheedgeofwhatever]

DD has just started year 2 and her teacher has put a note in her reading record book saying she can't read the following words in a book and she'd expect her to be able to do so at this stage so will I go over them with her?

atmosphere
acid
hemisphere
international
intellectual

Its odd as normally dd is a good reader but just wondering if these are words that you'd expect a year 2 starter to be able to read

I'm a year 2 teacher and I wouldn't send a note home about those particular words, or be concerned if a child couldnt recognise or decode them straight away. I would make a note of them as part of my continuous assessment though. Perhaps if your child is a good reader the teacher has sent the words home to you as something to be working on to help push her on even more, as opposed to being concerned that she doesn't know them immediately?

What band was the book? dd2 is also y2 and an able reader, reads band 10/11 at school, she read all except Acid which she pronunced akid, i think they are quite tricky for the average y2.

DS has just started Y2 RML/phonics.

The only one he got right was acid . He said 'asked' first but then spelt it out in chunks.

He tried to read the rest in chunks but isn't quite there. For some reason he can read each half of the word but is having difficulty putting them together.

My Yr1 DD who is on orange band books struggled with them all. She may have been better with the words in the context of a book/story but probably not much.

DD is year 1, she had a good go at sounding them out (not very successfully TBH and she is a fairly good reader for her age) - but she has no idea what the words mean at all. So even if she could read them, they mean nothing to her.

DD is on purple band books.

I reminded her that ph makes a f sound and she was suddenly able to read amosphere and hemisphere. She seems able to read international now but acid still causing problems.

Thank you sounds as if her teacher has high expectations

Ds1 is 6 and in y2 equivalent and gave them a good bash bit only got international right first time

Dd is 7 and a class above him and for them all right apart from pronouncing sphere as spear in both words.

They're hardly core words for that age group are they?

DD is Year 1 on Orange Band read Atmosphere and Hemisphere (she's a bit of a space geek), struggled to sound out acid and intellectual.

DS2 in year1, but reads with the year2s could read them all except acid, which he read as acrid.

DD is in year 2, she read them all but pronounced hemisphere as hemi-spear.

I would expect a Y2 to be able to decode those words but not sure why the teacher would send home a note about those particular words.

DD3 ( Y2) could read them all but she pronounced intellectual slightly wrong. Weird choice of words though

My DD read them all but didn't know what most of them meant. Seems a strange list of words to send home

Useful words for a 6 year old .
I hope dd incorporates them into her writing (preferably all in one sentence).

especially for you alchofrolic

The atmosphere in the Southern hemisphere would be excellent were it not for acid rain, this is an international problem that requires intellectual solutions.

No year 2's currently but yes, both would have been able to read them and know their meanings.

I read it as "can your 2 year old read these words" I thought you had a very clever toddler

I think you've comma spliced, ontheedge!!

What about:
A teacher in the northern hemisphere gave her pupils acid, to enhance the creative and intellectual atmosphere in her class, in an effort to promote English education on the international stage.

In terms of phonics, isn't it helpful for children to encounter words that they don't understand the meaning of immediately, so that they have to decode, rather than rely on contextual cues?

Although I agree the note home about these particular words is odd.

Beginner readers are always going to encounter words they don't know the meaning of yet, but that's how their vocabulary grows.

DS1 had to sound them all out and it resulted in in-tell-ect-ule, with the emphasis on the tell.

Hi ontheedgeofwhatever:

DD1 wouldn't have been able to read any of these when she was at start of Y2 - also expect she would have stumbled on 'ph' = 'f' sound. DD1 was still pronouncing spheres (her maths group) as suff - ears in late Y3. [NB phonics only just introduced when DD1 in Class R and teacher wasn't exactly highly trained/ convinced about this scheme].

DD2 now starting Y3 can read these words - but again, not completely certain that at start of Y2 she would. She was put through the jolly phonics system from beginning of class R, but I don't think they were working at the recommended rates.

I've found a list of scheme for teaching sounds through jolly phonics system here www.nonweiler.demon.co.uk/How%20JP%20fits%20with%20L&S%20Phases.pdf.

According to this scheme the 'ph' sound is meant to have been taught at the beginning of year 1 (see top page 4) and belongs to phase 5 of the six phases of phonetics taught through this system, presuming that this commences beginning of YR.

So - I'm not totally surprised the Y2 teacher has the expectation that your child should be able to do this, but slightly about how he or she has communicated this to you, so early in the year.

I think this note is just rushed, but possibly a good idea to try and talk to the teacher about your DC's reading level and what you need to be working on at home. Ask if she'd recommend the jolly phonics work books or if the school has work sheets/ on-line resources they can suggest/ provide.

I know that my DD2 had a real stumbling block on moving from one and two syllable words to longer words, also further complicated by the fact that this coincided with moving up to 'Chapter Books', with fewer illustrations, which can seem daunting as well. So although she could pronounce individual phonemes, she couldn't string them all together initially.

HTH

DS (just started yr3 but August birthday) read them all correctly but he certainly would not have got them all a year ago....

dd1 was on white book band at start of Y2, but she might have struggled with any she didn't understand - certainly at the beginning of the year. Not by the end of Y2.

Are they the vocab for current topic work? If not, I think its quite odd your dd's teacher put a note in her reading record about it!