Did anyone get a Level 4 in Y2 SATS ?

[RosemaryandThyme]

Just wondering if a Level 4 could / has been awarded to anyone's child in y2 and if so if the school has asked for their child to be moved forward a class ?

Would it be necessary to move a child forward or should next years Y3 teacher be asked to differentiate ?

TIA

DD2 was teacher assessed as level 4 in a subject, SAT result L3.

Really shocked by all the people who automatically think that a child should be moved up a year just because they are particularly strong in a certain area. DD2 went into y3 into a year 3/4 mixed class which sets for numeracy and literacy, hence she was in the top set for her best subject working with year 4's who were probably high level 4's/level 5's. What I am saying is that a good school should be able to differentiate work for ALL, whether entering year 3 on p scales or level 1, or a level 4. Or perhaps we are just lucky. As she goes into year 4 in September I have every faith in her teachers to continue to stretch her.

Couthymow, the only level reported at Y2 is teacher assessment. So whilst they may have told you the test result for your information, it's very much an extra. The result that would have gone forward to the LEA would have been the teacher assessment at level 4.

Now I realized my Ds1's some subject, marked L4c, L4b on mid y2 report, was given 3 by the end of y2,only one particular subject he is well beyond 4, was given a 4+.
I chose to believe the hightest mark must be the correct one!

Thanks so much everyone - it is interesting that no-one here is advocating moving up a year group - that's my feeling too, his teacher for next year did say that she could cope with him for literacy but maths wasn't her strength, I really felt for her, Ds can be very enthusiastic / pushy / ask lots of questions.

As far as I know they get sent work over from secondary school for the bright Y6 children - there is no-way he'd be going to secondary school a year early - I've only got three years with all my children at the same school - there's no way he's gonna mess up easy years !

Maths bloody well ought to be her strength, up to at least level 6. God it pisses me off when primary teachers can't adequately teach core subjects up to the required level. Gives us a bad name.

DS scored level 5 across the board in year 2. Didn't consider moving him up as that would mean repeating year 6. It hasn't been a problem. His teachers have been able to set appropriate work. He is at a state primary.

nutty you mean your ds was working at the level of a 14 year old in writing, reading, speaking and listening, maths and science when he was 7? Wow!

I didn't mind her saying that to me Feenie, to be honest I do know my son can be quite, well very, pushy, forcing adults to think on their feet all the time, it can be utterly exhausting. I think in his class it's compounded by the lack of space - he can't be edge off to find an answer out for himself.

I found her honesty refreashing, as a parent it truly did not make me think less of her as a teacher - I simply felt grateful that she felt she could say it as she saw it.

She was admitting she is not up to the job - in which case ahe should have reported this to senior management so they could have made appropriate arrangements. Your dd is entitled to be taught at her level, and for a primary schools that's up to level 6 at least.

Nutty - gosh wow - he'd have done his A'levels in Y6 then, did you let him go up to Uni early ?

level 5 across the board in year2 is extremly exceptional! Sounds like his teacher is extremly able as well!

Yes, I think the school is exceptional as they arranged lessons with other teachers and sometimes in other schools to find teachers that could help him reach his potential. I am extremely grateful to them.

So what's he doing now nutty?

I'm the opposite, I wouldn't take much notice of teacher assessments, they are so subjective across schools and areas.

We were told that under NO circumstance would the school give any 4's at the end of year 2, bright or not. The highest would be a 3 +. There are some exceptional children in the school (not mine by the way).

I'm often shocked to hear the level of work that some of my friend's kids are doing in their schools in the same year so I don't take much notice of their teacher assessments.

DS scored level 5 across the board in year 2. Didn't consider moving him up as that would mean repeating year 6. It hasn't been a problem. His teachers have been able to set appropriate work. He is at a state primary

What age and level is he now?!

AnxiousElephant DS was assessed the same but I am not sure whether at this level they would necessarily follow the pattern of progressing 3 sub levels as I am guessing the level 3 criteria is quite tough and also I am not sure if they were a level 3 in Year 3 that they would be expected to increase 3 sublevels a year, I think it is less than that (if that makes sense).

DSs teacher suggested he would easily achieve a 3A at the end of next year but that they had never had to provide work at that level as the highest achiever had been a 3b at the end of Y2 so they were excited about the challenge (he never mentioned a level 4). Its only a really small school so I am not suggesting he's mega clever or anything!)

Iamnotminterested my dd is currently in a mixed 1/2 class which has been brilliant as she has been working well with the y2 children in the top set for most things (they set for literacy and maths too). Until now I hadn't thought about acceleration at all. However, all the children she worked with will be moving to year 3 which makes me wonder how things will work next year. If she works with a higher level year2 this year, how will she have studying partners of a suitable level when she is year 2 mixed with y1's? Its the social aspect as well because all her good friends are year 2's going into y3. Will they then see her as a baby because she is in a different key stage and not continue the friendships (it has taken her a while to find the right group). I am worried that if she becomes unhappy socially that this will affect her studies.

DD (late starter, loves reading, enjoys books, ace comprehension, a little slow with phonics) amazed us all by suddenly pulling out all the stops with reading and getting full marks in level 3 test. Ace teacher discussed with me (am lit co at another school), said she thought she was probably working within level 4 but as it had all happened a bit quick she only had evidence of this over a couple of weeks and did I want her to persue level 4. I said that I was happy that she was reading well, enjoying reading, could infer, deduce, read for info and pleasure and that I'd rather teacher focussed on writing which is lagging behind somewhat. Teacher agreed, TA reported is a level 3, she goes to year 3 with a 3A and a note on her records, her writing is coming on, we're all happy.

Dd achieved level 3 across the board. No sublevels reported to us. She's finishing year 2.

My DS was moved up from reception to Y2 in Sept 2011. We have just had his report and his NC levels for Maths was 3 and English 2A. Also because he is really a Y1 pupil he got 100% on the phonics test, which I didn't know he would be doing.

He has benefitted hugely by being moved up a year and the school are continually stretching him and he has been working with Y3s this term.

The Middle and High schools have both confirmed that they will take him a year early so he doesn't have to repeat a year which was my main concern in agreeing the move.

He has a September birthday and nearly all the Y2s are summer born and he went to pre-school with all of them. The village school is very small so have mixed classes, my DS worked with the Y1s during his reception year and they felt he fitted best with that age group both socially and educationally.

There is now talk that he may do some math lessons with Y4 from September and school are very focused on catering for his abilities.

Most importantly my DS is happy and loves going to school.

I am suprised that the middle and high schools would agree so early to take him a year early as no one really knows what will happen between now and then as children don't always progress at such a fast rate, what will happen at Year 11?

Have the school said they can work towards a level 4 for him by the end of Y2? It would be nice to know what the expectations are as I am interested with regards to my DS.

DS has the same levels but the other way round for subjects, he has been working in Y2 this year but will have to stay in Y2 this year as its just an infant school however it is small so can stretch him accordingly. His junior school did discuss whether we wanted him to go up into Y3 this year but we felt staying with children his own age would be beneficial in the long run as he needs to be able to mix well and not just with older children (he is quite mature and tends to be better with older children which for various reasons I believe could be an issue down the line).

Level 5s in year 2?

for a start, in order to get level 5 in reading, you have to read stuff which, in my opinion, is entirely inappropriate for a 6 year old.

And frankly, I think a secondary school would be insane to say that they would be happy to take a child a year early when he reaches 11 when he is still only 6 or 7. How on earth could they know that his rapid progress will continue?

Ah Seeker, thats what I was trying to say but you managed to say it in one sentence instead of my 10

Obviously, the Middle & High schools are happy to take DS a year early if he is still working at the appropriate level. A few posts mentioned that schools wouldn't take children a year early, this is not the case in my area.