L6 was it nasty or nice?

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Anyone seen the L6 reading paper?

Is DD2 going to be fit to speak to?

Thanks

Can't answer question, but also want to know answer...

Check out last page of Reading test thread on tes primary forum. They give the topic as 'water', but not any real info as yet.

DS liked it all. There was a long and short writing and reading.

IndigoBell Do you mind me asking you what kind of level DC at your DS's school are at to sit the writing paper?

DD says it was some on reflecting on the part water had played in their lives. She said it was long and hard work, but she finished it.

She is fit to speak to, but that might be because I bought her an ice cream.

Someone reflecting (her English is much better than mine)

Dd said that her & the other people sitting it had loads of time left. She didn't go into great detail and I didn't push as she's absolutely sick to the back teeth of the tests/the fact that it's over for the majority

From what I gleaned, yes, it was reflections on the role water played in "the olden days" & Africa. She said the questions weren't really any harder than the difficult L5 ones. There was one that asked how you could tell something was "harsh" in one of the paragraphs & she seemed to have quoted examples.

That's all I know!

IAmNotInterested - there isn't a separate reading and writing paper. You had to sit both.

I don't know what level anyone else's kid is :) - but school was clearly just chancing it because a lot of kids sat it.

Indigo Really? I thought they were separate papers.

Your second sentence implies that a lot of these kids aren't true level 6's then?

My ds said it was just a reading paper and that he had time to spare so maybe some of them only did part.
Just asked him again and he said that they have to writing as well later this week.

Does anyone know whether this is being marked internally like the other writing tests?

I'm confused - dd def just did reading with no word of writing (unless she has done this prior to today & hasn't realised?) The L5 writing is being internally marked at her school so maybe the L6 is being too?

She is doing maths tomorrow & is finished after that.

Member - DS also said it was reading only, although he is also entered for the writing. He has maths tomorrow.

I presume that the writing will be done at a separate time or over a portfolio of teacher-assessed evidence like the TA for the rest of writing.

DD says no writing papers.
As to level she and the friend who sat it with her are very secure L5.
I'd guess they have been since well before Christmas, I recon she was there or there abouts at the end of Y5. certainly for reading, teacher hedged a very high 4.

Okay, have been googling and it seems as though the optional L6 consist of reading & maths papers only which are externally marked.

I can only assume that any writing that children are sitting this week are where schools have exercised their choice to administer the internally marked writing assessments betwwen the end of March & beginning of June, rather than with the rest of the L5 SATS.

www.education.gov.uk/schools/teachingandlearning/assessment/a00197755/key-stage-2-assessment-in-2012

No, this was a L6 writing. He had L5 writing last week.

This explains it:

Level 6 tests in English reading, writing and mathematics now form part of the suite of Key
Stage 2 National Curriculum tests. These tests are optional and are aimed at high attaining
children. Headteachers should take into account a child?s expected attainment prior to
entering them for these tests as they should already be demonstrating attainment above
level 5.
The level 6 English reading and mathematics tests will be provided to schools who have
registered children for these tests and must be administered on the dates specified in the
test timetable (see section 4). Completed test scripts should be sent for external marking.
Marked scripts and results will be available to schools on Tuesday 10 July 2012 and a
reviews service will be offered for these tests.
The level 6 English writing test will be available for schools to download from the Test
orders section of NCA tools from the end of February 2012. This test can be administered
by the school at a time of their choosing by the end of June 2012. Completed test scripts
should not be sent for external marking and should be marked internally.

I therefore have no idea whether my dd has already done the L6 writing; has still to do it or is not doing it at all which begs the question, if a child is attains L6 in reading but hasn't done the writing, will they be said to be L6 in reading rather than English?

And the bigger question is how will the school mark the L6 writing paper accurately? when they've entered every man and his dog for it

if a child is attains L6 in reading but hasn't done the writing, will they be said to be L6 in reading rather than English?

Reading and writing would be reported separately anyway. You don't get a level for "English".

Yes you do, Sunscorch.

Even the DFE have no idea how they are going to report English this year, given that writing is now a TA and that level 6 tests have been chucked into the mix - they are due to release that information as soon as they have worked it out soon.

But English has always been reported, both at TA (equal weighting reading, writing and speaking and listening) and at test level (DFE reports a different threshold level every year).

There is a separate writing test

The level 6 English reading and mathematics tests will be provided to schools who have registered children for these tests and must be administered on the dates specified in the test timetable (see section 4). Completed test scripts should be sent for external marking.
Marked scripts and results will be available to schools on Tuesday 10 July 2012 and a reviews service will be offered for these tests.

The level 6 English writing test will be available for schools to download from the Test orders section of NCA tools from the end of February 2012. This test can be administered by the school at a time of their choosing by the end of June 2012. Completed test scripts should not be sent for external marking and should be marked internally. No reviews service will be offered for this test.

www.education.gov.uk/schools/teachingandlearning/assessment/keystage2/b00203626/key-stage-2-english-writing-tests/the-internally-marked-level-6-english-writing-test/internally-marked-level-6-english-level-threshold-tables

It's no more of a dilemma if the dc is l5 in one area and l6 in another (of English), than if they're l4 in one and l5 in another, surely?

Yes, but the DFE decide on the mark thresholds for tests - it's not a straight 50/50 weighting.