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L6 was it nasty or nice?

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startail · 21/05/2012 13:06

Anyone seen the L6 reading paper?

Is DD2 going to be fit to speak to?

Thanks

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IndigoBell · 22/05/2012 17:45

L6 writing test is a short and a long paper.

gazzalw · 22/05/2012 18:15

DS did level 6 maths today and said it was hard...he said "he'd flopped" and this is the boy who passed three 11+ exams.

We're not too fussed as he was not well last week and struggled through all the SATS.

At the end of the day he achieved what we wanted to achieve in Year 6 (his selective place) and the rest says more about the teaching than the students....

Pity though because think he's up to it...

somerandom · 22/05/2012 20:05

gazzalw my DS and his friends said it was hard too - especially part one and they are all kids who passed 11+ too. Tell your DS not to feel like he flopped - sounds like it was just a tough paper.

IndigoBell · 22/05/2012 21:18

L6 should be harder than 11+

L6 is the expected standard for end of Y9

gazzalw · 22/05/2012 21:30

Yes, DS said the same thing about the standards too.....

Heyho just a bit of a pity for them if they were deemed to be of the standard by school and then didn't perform to standard - not exactly an ego-boosting end to Year 6

YvonneCalling · 22/05/2012 21:49

Just to be contrary - my DS said it the papers were ok Hmm. We hadn't done anything with him at home until now, but this weekend showed him the 2000 paper and he had a go and said that it was really hard. He reckoned today's paper was easier (although he said that there were 6 (out of 27?) that he didn't finish, so not quite sure what his standards are Smile.

I have just said that he should be proud he is doing so well Smile.

muppet1969 · 22/05/2012 22:15

The non-calculator paper was definitely harder, and both papers were significantly harder than last year's optional ones, IMO. it will be interesting to see what the pass mark is, it's not been published yet.

startail · 22/05/2012 23:24

DD said non calculator was harder than the calculator paper.

Hasn't said much else because playing sport all afternoon in the sunshine was much more interesting.

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gazzalw · 23/05/2012 07:03

Not surprising that it was much harder- they probably need to set a precedent that not everyone taking it is going to achieve it...

A bit hard on our deserving DCs though but exams were ever thus!

It's all over now till the results ;-(

IndigoBell · 23/05/2012 07:43

Feenie - school have confirmed that everyone at my school who sat the L6 (over 20 kids) will be teacher assessed at L5 Shock

talkingnonsense · 23/05/2012 15:02

Good lord- how are they justifying entering them then? All the chdn who took the l6 papers at our school will be ta level 6- cos that's why they let them take it!

IndigoBell · 23/05/2012 16:12

But they don't have to justify it to anyone, do they.

Feenie · 23/05/2012 17:51

Oh, fgs.

morethanpotatoprints · 23/05/2012 17:52

Aren't sats supposed to be testing how well children have been taught? I would have thought it was a reflection on teachers not children. I couldn't have told you when my kids did sats as the school never told parents or children. I know that none of the children at any of my kids school ever did level 6 tests, are they to help get children into selective schools? Or are they usually done in 7+ selective schools?

Feenie · 23/05/2012 17:56

I couldn't have told you when my kids did sats as the school never told parents or children.

Schools have a statutory requirement to report levels to parents at the end of Y2 and Y6.

And - once again Smile - the levels attained in Y6 are used to set government targets for children at secondary school. So they are very much a reflection on what children have attained.

teacherwith2kids · 23/05/2012 19:14

MorethanPP

It has always been possible to report children as Level 6 using teacher assessment at the end of Year 6. This year, for the first time in many years, there has been a decision to set Level 6 papers for children to sit.

My DS has just taken them. Not because he is going to a selective school - he's going to our local comprehensive. Not because his school is selective - it's a bog-standard state primary. But because he has been working, particularly in maths, at level 6 this year.

On the negative side, some schools have been entering Level 5 children 'just to see if they pass the level 6' - thus reinforcing the whole 'they may test at a level but that isn't backed up by their day to day class work so it's not real' perception from secondaries.

On the positive side, for those children like my DS where they genuinely are working at Level 6, having some kind of benchmark test MAY mean that Level 6s given by Year 6 teachers have a little more credibility in terms of a starting point in year 7...

I'm guessing that the negative side will win out, given the approach to level 6 papers reported on MN. However, whatever happens in the test, it has encouraged DS's Year 6 teachers to continue to teach new mathematical concepts to the most able throughout the year, rather than concentrating on up to level 5 stuff 'because it is what will be tested'.

simbo · 23/05/2012 20:30

I wish ours had taught higher level stuff throughout the year. The children that were put in for L6 were all very bright/g&t and would have benefited from more challenging work, rather than lots of repetition. However, I don't suppose all schools have the resources or the space in their planning to accommodate this. The sad thing is that it will be worse next year, as their comp teaches pretty much everything from L4 up all over again, even to the top set.

morethanpotatoprints · 23/05/2012 21:55

I didn't mean to sound negative, if there is this attitude, I was just curious that so many parents seem to know so much more than the parents I know. Our school is a good school as were the schools ds's attended. Many schools round here don't tell parents/kids, obviously we know around the time but not what days and the kids mostly don't know at all. I think this is good as they are not under pressure. The new l6 this year I hadn't heard of as dd is only y3 and older ones left school now. We do get their results and levels on school reports

busymummy3 · 23/05/2012 23:49

Why do they have to sit level 6 papers now? are there no longer teacher assessments ?
What targets are then generally set for Y7 ?

gazzalw · 24/05/2012 08:15

Don't think we were told very much at all - I had some vague notion but not actually sure the school told us formally that some DCs would sit them.

simbo · 25/05/2012 17:14

So, has everyone else finished now? Or is it just us that haven't?

mrz · 25/05/2012 17:21

We haven't done the writing yet.

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