Yr 1 Phonics test - what if your child can already read?

[MayaAngelCool]

Can we have them exempted from the test? From what I gather, such a child is likely to fail the test as it includes lots of 'fake' words written phonetically. Children who can read well are thought to be likely to try to guess what real word these words are similar to, rather than saying what they actually are, and thus fail the test.

The Pearson Phonic Test information conveniently avoids saying anything about this problem. Anyone know?

Did you mean to sound so rude, allchildrenreading? This thread has explained, in great detail, how phonics and decoding are the best way to teach reading. It hasn't really touched on comprehension, analysis of information or wider understanding. Your post jumped from the stats on those things to phonics without any additional information. So I asked some questions.

Clearly I haven't read the material you list, or I'd know more about it and probably not be asking questions you apparently find either stupid or annoying.

HesterBurnitall that is because this thread is about a Phonics Screening Check not about reading in general.
Good phonics teaching is not conducted in a vacuum, although there are some who seem to believe this is the case. It takes place in a context, the context of everyday language usage, which includes understanding/comprehension, but the simple truth is that you can?t read for meaning if you can?t decode the words.

That's a little disingenuous, mrz; it was allthechildrenreading who brought up statistics about adult literacy in Australia, and yourself who provided a further link which also included numeracy.

How strange CecilyP I thought I was just providing answers to Hesterburnitall's questions

Interesting programme on phonics on Radio 4 just started now

It was broadcast earlier this week and is available on iplayer if you miss it today

The government are using our children as tools to assess teachers.
My daughter is not going to do the test. I will remove her from school if need be.
Using children as tools is not considering their rights, and can be argued to be an abuse.
I care that my child can read. I don't care about how she learns. She will learn in the wayward best suited to her, not the way best suited to the government.

I think it would be a very good idea for you to remove your child from state education as soon as possible.

The government is going to continue to use your child's results, progress and other assessments as a way of assessing teachers.

That's just the reality of state education. It would be great if teachers weren't measured against anything - it would make my life much easier. Totally impractical though.

The phonics screening check took place on the 17th of June so if your child is in Y1 aerialboy ... she will have already taken part in the screening check. I am a Y1 teacher and parent and believe the check will benefit many children by identifying possible issues early.

There is a bizarre notion out there that children who are 'good' readers perform poorly in the phonics check.

At DS' school the children who did not achieve the required standard in the phonics check were not the good readers.

The 2 children in my class who did not meet the expected level are both undergoing statutory assessment. My good readers scored 40/40 as did the good readers last year.

Oh dear..... I hope it's not a bad sign that DS scored 39 then....

Can't believe the fuss about this. I use a lot of non-word decoding with children with literacy issues because it's a way I can check if they know what the sounds are rather than recognising a word from memory. At some point children need to write words they don't know. As long as they know what is expected of them, children cope well. Sometimes we over-analyse and make a big fuss over nothing. Mine all achieved the expected level, but it did highlight to me the one sound a few stumbled on (igh). Best readers didn't stumble at all.