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Year 2 maths assessment

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caffeinated · 17/05/2012 16:02

Dd sat a paper today and I Have had reservations about how she's been assessed this year by her teacher. Her teacher confirmed at the start of the year she came to her class as a solid 2c in numeracy. I was told at recent parents evening her target for the end of year 2, was 2a. I asked if she'd struggled with numeracy this year and was told no. I had expected she'd get a level 3 and so was surprised her target was so low.

Today she sat a paper, She said half the class sat 1 and the other half a different one. She thinks hers was the most difficult but the other paper had multiplication and pounds and pence problems and hers didn't.

She said she was the first to finish hers and the ta said she got only 3 wrong. Does it sound like she sat a paper that was too easy?

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mrz · 20/05/2012 07:19

Levels of achievement

The National Curriculum sets standards of achievement in each subject for pupils aged 5 to 14. For most subjects, these standards range from Levels 1 to 8. Pupils progress up the levels as they get older and learn more:

most 7 year olds are expected to achieve Level 2 (2 years)
most 11 year olds are expected to achieve Level 4 (4 years)
most 14 year olds are expected to achieve Levels 5 or 6 (3 years)

www.education.gov.uk/performancetables/ks3_04/k3.shtml

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mrz · 20/05/2012 07:21

Many schools use average points progress/pupils points progress systems which further confuses the issue

www.primaryprogresstoolkit.co.uk/blog/?page_id=72

kim147 · 20/05/2012 16:56

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mrz · 20/05/2012 16:59

kim most children enter reception working below level 1 and schools can continue to use the EYFS profile at the beginning of Y1 for pupils who have not achieved profile points 4-8.

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mrz · 20/05/2012 17:06

Yes Kim I'm talking about Y1 too.
Most children enter Y1 working below level 1 with an average score of 6 on the profile and the DfE recommendation is that Y1 teachers should continue to assess against the profile for the first term or until the child begins working within the NC.

mrz · 20/05/2012 17:10

Teachers in Y1 can continue to use the EYFS Profile as their assessment tool for children where they consider this to be appropriate. This will be particularly the case for children who have not obtained any or most of the Early Learning Goals (ELG) ? scale points 4-8 ? in a particular EYFS Profile scale.

source QCA 00022-2009DWO-EN-01

mrz · 20/05/2012 17:11

and I'm talking about 2 full levels over a key stage

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mrz · 20/05/2012 17:15

I think your assumption that children start the year on 1C is where the problem is as the DfE data shows this isn't usual

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mrz · 20/05/2012 17:26

So we agree that the "average" child enters KS1 working below level 1 and that the expectation is they leave KS1 (2 years later) on 2B ...

mrz · 20/05/2012 17:28

and if a child finished reception on 1C and didn't achieve a level 3 at the end of KS1 I would wonder what had gone wrong.

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mrz · 20/05/2012 17:34

Well if our children followed Pupils making 'satisfactory progress' should be expected to move up one NC level in the two years they are in KS1 they would leave KS1 at 1C Hmm

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flexybex · 20/05/2012 17:49

I'm with mrz on this one. Looking at data of children achieving 9 on the EYFS coming into Y1 (i.e. working within the NC), we have a 95%+ correlation with our level 3s at the end of Y2.
We are certainly expected to get 2 levels progress within KS1 (using the very rough EYFS-NC level conversions).

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mrz · 20/05/2012 18:32

Neither is it possible to make predictions about children?s future attainment as there is no correlation between EYFS profile data and key stage 1 or 2 outcomes or national curriculum levels.
orderline.education.gov.uk/gempdf/144590750X/Factsheet_FSP_QA_v6aWO.pdf

mrz · 20/05/2012 18:34

But it also says that some schools suggest a profile score of 9 is equivalent to a 1c.
actually if you look at the level descriptors for some of the scale points 9s you will find they include aspects of NC level 2

tiggytape · 20/05/2012 23:24

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