Year 2 maths assessment

[caffeinated]

Dd sat a paper today and I Have had reservations about how she's been assessed this year by her teacher. Her teacher confirmed at the start of the year she came to her class as a solid 2c in numeracy. I was told at recent parents evening her target for the end of year 2, was 2a. I asked if she'd struggled with numeracy this year and was told no. I had expected she'd get a level 3 and so was surprised her target was so low.

Today she sat a paper, She said half the class sat 1 and the other half a different one. She thinks hers was the most difficult but the other paper had multiplication and pounds and pence problems and hers didn't.

She said she was the first to finish hers and the ta said she got only 3 wrong. Does it sound like she sat a paper that was too easy?

Again kim that is referring to ks2 so not relevant here.

This thread got me thinking I was overreacting. So I googled some past papers. Would seem a score between 19-30 out of 30 is a 2a. Which is what I fully expect her teacher will award her this year.

I looked at level 3 papers too and was surprised to see a score upward of 10 out of 30 equates to level 3 because I know for sure that dd would be able to answer at least half correctly that's not including the ones I think she could probably do. There was only a question on fractions I knew she couldn't do.

In this case its a shame those who perform well on level 2 test no longer get a go at level 3 because I think her sitting that and passing it would be the only thing that would make her teacher realise she was more able than she considered.

Fingers crossed for a teacher next year with better judgment.

I think it is time to mention again the research that says our obsession with levels and knowing what level they are every term and what progress has been made is detrimental to progress. They are better to say what they can do and how to improve.

Caffinated to achieve a level 3 on the test used a child must score 18+ and that would be a borderline level not secure. You should also consider the texts for level3 are more difficult as are the expected understanding

Sorry not awake level 3 maths is 12+ for a low level3 which most schools wouldn't award as a 3 because it isn't secure

Am I missing something here? DS is in Y2 and has done some of his "special work" with squash and biscuits as his lovely teacher has sold it to them. It truly doesn't matter to me what he gets in these tests. His teacher will have assessed him throughout the year and he'll get what he gets. He is 6 years old.....

Oh Mrz appreciate your early morning response. I have been working with dd daily since Easter on maths just 15 mins a day. Teaching her topics I feel she should've been this year. I'm not sure why the teacher hasn't taught her to level 3 standard. 2a is perfectly respectable. I'm hopeful that starting year 3 there may be some kind of teacher assessment before they set them for maths. It's a large junior school with an intake from several infant schools. So I hope they notice a discrepancy between her year 2 teacher assessment and her actual ability if we keep working on her maths and build her confidence.

Ben10 ours feeds into a very academic junior school that pigeon holes kids. So from entering their is very little movement between ability groups the whole 4 years so essentially ther year 2 results will decide which secondary school they end up in. Which essentially makes a huge difference.

That makes a difference then Caffeinated. DS goes to a bog standard primary with formal ability groups. They move between them for subjects as necessary.

It is ridiculous that how a child performs at 6 or 7 decides the secondary school. Is it a grammar area? Ours is but not one of the super super grammar areas IYSWIM.

Sorry that should say NO formal ability groups.

Ben10 apologies for the spelling errors and rogue use of their instead of there. I shouldn't mumsnet before 8am. Our choice is the local grammar or 2 local comps which are horrendous and I'd honestly rather homeschool through those years and send her to local six form college after gcse's.

Kim thank you that was interesting.

School were very open in year 1 regarding levels and I know that several kids who finished year 1 on 1a sat the level 3 maths yesterday.

That link is very interesting and gives me some great suggestions as to what we can work on between now and September.

Because I'm hoping for the opposite of what you suggest that the year 3 teacher will look at results, do her own assessment and realise the child is more capable than indicated. All of my kids have had phenomenal teachers this one wasn't a good fit for dd drop the first week and that happens I just hope she gets a tteacher she gels with in year 3.

I haven't read the whole thread, but which paper would a child sit if it should get a Level 3C?

If they sit a level 3 paper most of it would be too hard or would they sit a level 2 paper to confirm L2 is secure and then the first part of L3?

Don't know where kim works, but the expectation for KS1 at my school is +1 whole level in Y1 and +1 whole level in Y2. We do look at each case individually and tweak where necessary, but that is the general expectation.

I think this is far easier to do in maths than literacy, particularly when the Y1 child has already grasped place value.

I think kim is confusing Y2 with KS2

Hmm there does appear to be some conflict between schools on this then.

Schools are singing from the same hymn sheet the expected level for most children at the end of KS1 is 2b. (Government expect) which is 2 full levels over the KS. So if a chils starts Y1 on 1c they should be 3c at the end of Y2
In KS2 the expectation is also 2 full levels (over 4 years) and that's where people get confused ...