Year 2 maths SATS... Any year 2 teachers about?

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I have a question about the apparatus used/ allowed in the maths SATS. Please can anyone tell me what will be available for children to use?

I am interested to find out which calculation methods the children would be able to use 'on the day', that they may have used previously, which rely on using equipment. (Eg counting on using a number line, or adding with the help of a hundred square, for example.)

sorry, didn't mean to say 'for example' twice

Not a teacher, but a TA. We put out pens, pencils, rulers, pertractors, a mirror and tracing paper.

Questions that require working out have space for this because they can get some marks for their working, even if the final answer is wrong.

There is also a calculator paper, when they all have a calculator.

protractor

I am able to support your DCs. Honest.

The papers usually specify what apparatus is required (iirc).
Generally, is unlikely to be something children have never seen before, but beyond that...up to SATs setters.

Thank you . Do they not have 'base ten' equipment, or similar?

But does that eqip vary from year to year?
I looked at an old 2004 teachers' guide which said they should have access to 'tens and units'. Is that still current practice?

Love the idea of a protractor. DD2 would have probably spent the whole time looking at it and drawing pretty shapes (or licking it). She's already told me when I asked her if she could read the questions 'Not all of them Mummy', I asked what did she do if she couldn't read the questions she replied 'just guess the answers'

Equipment varies depending on which government initiative in place (sorry to sound cynical, but generally the case)
but again,, school will have an idea what current thinking is, so shouldn't be things DCs unused to.

Thanks x

Also, I think some stuff like number squares are allowed for L2 papers but not for L3 papers......

Y2 Level2 100 square tens and units materials and a ruler (frequently a wooden one which some children use as a number line) Year 3 no equipment sometimes a mirror. no protractors. schools use 2007 or 2009 papers and it is the same for both

We follow what it suggests in the teacher booklet. The papers we used for level 3 said only rulers and mirrors, the level 2 we had counters, 100 squares, rulers and possibly other stuff that I can't remember.

I was told in parents eve back in March that they can have a number line and 100 square for the L2 paper but not for the level 3 (as someone else has already said).

I posted another thread earlier and from this thread now know for sure that dd sat the level 2 paper while half the class sat level 3. She said the ta told her after she only got 3 wrong and she finished first out of all the ones sitting level 2 paper.

She started year 2 as a solid 2c and her target was only 2a I have supported her learning at home in maths because even though I Have been to see the teacher her work has been too easy the teacher just nodded but changed nothing. Should a child scoring 3 marks short of full marks in the level 2 paper not have sat the level 3 paper instead?

Maybe she is sitting both (clutches at straws)

DS was a 2c in literacy and writing (end of yr1) and is predicted a 3c in both. He is sitting the level 3 paper in both as far as I know. Not sure about the numeracy one as he finished yr1 on a 1a.

Simpson I appreciate your optimism. I just have had a gut feeling all year that this teacher hasn't been on the ball and given correctly differentiated work. She's a newish teacher and very arrogant.

2 sub-levels progress in just over 2 terms is fine. You seem very unhappy that your daughter potentially not achieving a 3B (four sub-levels progress) because that is what a level 3 is when reported as a 3 in KS1?
Maybe the new teacher is not arrogant, just nervous or stressed, due to inexperience, at being told that you think they are wrong and your daughter is brighter at home than she is evidencing in the classroom?

Mwb I'm not saying 3b I'm saying 3c which is a level 3 here.

I didn't say new teacher I said newish. A few years experience. I have never told her I think she is wrong I Have just asked how can I support my child. A reception teacher who scored 9's for numeracy, a year 1 teacher who scored a 2c at the end of year 1 and predicted dd would soar through year 2 getting level 3's with ease. Only to start year 2 in middle group and be given work that was easy. And to be told she's not found anything difficult she doesn't lack confidence but she hasn't made expected progress leads me at this point to think that yes the teacher has estimated her.

And I care because they set them for maths in year 3 and the groups are rigid from one year to next. If you start bottom you stay bottom and if you start top you stay top.

The teacher can always assess at a level 3 at the end of the year, and override the level achieved in the test. The SATs papers are only done to inform her assessment.

I would hardly think a 2a would be 'bottom'.

The teacher must differentiate at least three ways by virtue of the fact that your dd is in the middle group. (How many ways should she be differentiating?!)

Not a teacher, but a TA. We put out pens, pencils, rulers, pertractors, a mirror and tracing paper.

Questions that require working out have space for this because they can get some marks for their working, even if the final answer is wrong.

There is also a calculator paper, when they all have a calculator.

Think you may be talking about KS2 there, not KS2, DoUntoOtters

Not Y2!!

And I care because they set them for maths in year 3 and the groups are rigid from one year to next. If you start bottom you stay bottom and if you start top you stay top.

That's bonkers. I can't imagine that a school would be so inflexible!

Our school is too!
Very inflexible ability/attainment groups with children pigeonholed from a very young age.

Yes Mrs shears its sad but it does happen.