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A teacher charges £30/hr to tutor some of his own pupils, is it ok?

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rightvswrong · 25/03/2012 16:07

A teacher at my ds' primary school has been tutoring 3 children in his class for a while now. Few of us, parents at the school, think it is tottaly wrong. What do you think?

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TheFallenMadonna · 25/03/2012 16:09

Do you think he should do it for free? Or not at all?

Dolcegusto · 25/03/2012 16:09

Why do you think it's wrong?

SchoolsNightmare · 25/03/2012 16:10

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ZZZenAgain · 25/03/2012 16:11

I don't see why the teacher should not be paid to tutor after school. Why does it bother you?

Pooka · 25/03/2012 16:11

Nothing wrong with it IMO.

He can't do it for free! That seems like the going rate. If he wants to tutor, then tutoring children that he will absolutely know in terms of their strengths/weaknesses seems ideal to me.

I take it he's doing it in his free time and not during school hours?

So what's the problem then?

TheMonster · 25/03/2012 16:12

I don't think there is anything wrong with tutoring. I wouldn't feel comfortable tutoring pupils that I taught.
When I used to work through a tutoring agency, we were not allowed to tutor children from the school we worked in, even if we didn't directly teach them.

Catsdontcare · 25/03/2012 16:13

Why do you feel it's wrong?

If it's outside school hours then none of your business really

rightvswrong · 25/03/2012 16:16

WOW! I am shocked. Have you thought of favoring the one who pays over the one who doesn't? This teacher warns his customers about exams when others are not. His conversations with their parents in their homes are totally wrong as he is discussing private matters with them regarding other children....the list is long...How about professionalism?

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rightvswrong · 25/03/2012 16:18

Body- I agree with you. There is nothing with tutoring or charging for it at all, the problem is tutoring the children in his class.

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IndigoBell · 25/03/2012 16:22

I'd be very disturbed if I found out my child's teacher was tutoring kids in his class outside school.

Because I actually expect him to teach the kids during school.

And I'd see it as a clear admission that he couldn't do his job.

DarrowbyEightFive · 25/03/2012 16:25

"This teacher warns his customers about exams when others are not."
"he is discussing private matters with them regarding other children"

You didn't mention either of these things in your OP. Of course neither is acceptable. Tutoring one's 'own' pupils for money is not intrinsically wrong (although I would advise against it), but giving tutees information that others don't have or talking about other children behind their backs are both unprofessional actions (they would constitute unethical behaviour whether tutoring is involved or not). In both cases the appropriate thing would be to go to the school - either the teacher in question, or the head.

Catsdontcare · 25/03/2012 16:25

Might be helpful to put ALL the facts in you OP. ffs

SandStorm · 25/03/2012 16:28

Just out of interest, how do you know what he is discussing with the other parents?

SchoolsNightmare · 25/03/2012 16:28

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mrz · 25/03/2012 16:28

I worked with someone who did this and have to say most of the staff believed if wasn't quite ethical( although no one had a problem with tutoring other pupils not in his class/school.

asiatic · 25/03/2012 16:31

If he is discussing privaate matters about other children with the parents of some children, this is wrong, but not in any way related to tutoring.

Teachers are part of the community too. I have friends children and my godchildren in my school. Some of my colleagues have their own children. I also have my GP's son, and the daughter of my plumber. Am I supposed not to have any contact outside school with people I see inside school. How would that be arranged? Should I live in a bubble? I'm going over for dinner later with my daughters French teacher, who is also an old friend. I tutor too. It would not be possible to tutor any child who did not have sdome connection with my school, as it is the largest school locally.

Some schools do keep a registar of teachers and students who are connected outside school, but it can be hard to keep up to date, I certainly wouldn't know exactly what connection my friends and aquaintances have with my school

MadameChinLegs · 25/03/2012 16:33

It is also possible for him to doctor his class' abilities in order for them to need further tutuoring too.

fivecandles · 25/03/2012 16:35

Have been asked to do this quite a few times in my career and always say no to my own students. I offer all reasonable help to my own students for fee anyway.

rightvswrong · 25/03/2012 16:37

I know about it because one of the children shared the information with my ds before the exam starts. One of the mums told me things that he shared with her that made me boil few times. The head knows about it already but all what she did is charging him £10 tutoring in the school!!

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MadameChinLegs · 25/03/2012 16:38

Schools, I didnt say he DID, i'm just saying he could.

Bonsoir · 25/03/2012 16:38

This happens a lot in my DD's school and I think it is highly unethical for teachers to tutor children in their own class (or even the year group that they teach). However, I think it is fair enough for teachers to tutor children who have already been through their class and are known to them - children who are struggling often have a favourite teacher whom they trust and this can be an excellent way of helping them.

rightvswrong · 25/03/2012 16:43

Bonsoir- totally agree.

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corblimeymadam · 25/03/2012 16:44

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GnomeDePlume · 25/03/2012 16:53

IMO a teacher tutoring pupils from his own class is ethically suspect:

  • he is in a position to advertise directly to the parents of his pupils with the risk that he pressurises them to have tutoring
  • there will be a conflict between how much teaching he gives for 'free' and how much is charged for tutoring

There is nothing wrong with a teacher offering tutoring just that there should be a clear divide between taught pupils and tutored pupils.

Not exactly rocket science and it is very wrong that the head is encouraging this (by providing space at a charge).