how many sub levels per year is average progress?

[mrsshears]

I would be really greatful if anyone can help,i would like to know the above question for ks1 and also what is the average level to leave y1 on? am i right in thinking that it was a 1b but has since been changed to 1a?
tia

Well in DS's school its still a 1b (or it was last yr!!)

I think the average years progress is 3/4 sub levels.

DS finished on 2Cs for literacy & handwriting and 1a for numeracy (in yr1) and he is on track to get 3cs in all 3 in his SATS this year.

no

Most (not all) children are expected to reach 2B at the end of KS1 and to make 2 full levels progress over the Key Stage

sorry mrz pregnancy brain at the minute,so the end of y2 then most should be a 2b and should then make 2 full levels over then next key stage 2?
And the end of y1 level is still a 1b then?

Over KS1 (Y1 and Y2) a child should make 2 full levels progress which should result in most children achieving a 2B. Assuming a child makes the same progress each year that means most should be a 1B in Y1 ...but we know children don't make linear progress

Yes, most school expect average progress to be yr 1 =1b, year 2=2b, year 4=3b, year 6-4b.

Unfortunately average progress isn't enough these days, everyone is now expected to be above average!

2 sub levels a year is the expected progress leading to 2 full levels per key stage. All kids progress differently though and some make 1 sub level one year and 3 the next.

MrsS - there is no govt advice as to what should be the expected level at end of Y1. So while most schools choose 1b to be the target, it is possible that your school has chosen 1a.

2 sub levels per year is Ks2 is good progress, and one and a half sublevels pet year satisfactory.2 sublevels per year would be more than 2 full levels if you work it out.

But then they won't necessarily actually put them down as being at the level they are, as either they're not allowed to or it wouldn't allow them to show progress. For example at the end of KS1 they can't report a level of more than 3. ds1 did the Y6 SATs maths paper in Y2 as an assessment - according to that he'd have comfortably been a 5, but they still had to just record a 3.

We are told the expected for the end of yr 1 is 2c nationally.

www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDEQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tgfl.org.uk%2Ftgfl%2Fcustom%2Ffiles_uploaded%2Fuploaded_resources%2F3000%2FTracking-Progress-grid.doc&ei=D91kT6C6OqGw0QWQ9byPCA&usg=AFQjCNE2UsSm5rOegLBiHTRD8u9sR6sOxQ&sig2=0x2o5OD4bnUdaS1wwy3JjQ link opens as a word doc.

For example at the end of KS1 they can't report a level of more than 3....they still had to just record a 3.

That's not true - there is no ceiling at KS1. Level 4 would be very unusual, but can and does happen.

We have a handful of kids in year 2 who are 3a atm, apparently . Either the marking is very 'positive', or else I'm going to have my hands full next year.

One of the things that we frequently do is have KS2 moderate KS1 work, and vice versa. Just to make sure we all have the same standards when it comes to a level 3 etc.
It can lead to some interesting debates and reasoning, but it's a useful activity.

Sub levels are rubbish. And I'm a teacher! Technically at secondary it is 2 sub levels a year.

Y2 teachers are often the most skilled at teacher assessment, since they do so much of it and are regularly moderated.

Whole school moderation is essential.

We use whole school moderation termly and each half term the Y1 teacher and Y2 teacher look at levels of work the Y2 and Y3 look at levels and so on.

OP (and everybody)
Please read this really important and informative thread about sublevels
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/secondary/1430501-Im-a-maths-teacher-and-I-make-up-sub-levels

It's true in so much as the sub levels don't officially exist although they have found their way into numerous official documents

Sub levels are only pretend.

OP Hope your DD is good at spelling.

not much on the telly tonight then iamnotminterested?

Thanks for all the other replies,very helpful.

Nah, not a lot.

Morning all!

hi all. can anyone help, if a child is working at 2c moving to 2b in reading, 2b moving to 2a in maths and 1a moving to 2c in writing at the end of year 1 what would they get in year 2 sats? thanks. xxx