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WWYD about sustained bullying?

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CardyMow · 21/02/2012 18:21

DS2 is on the Autistic spectrum, but in MS school, now with no support (don't ask!).

Yesterday he came home complaining that his back hurt because 3 boys had kicked him - he had a red mark, and now has a slight bruise. He also complained that he felt dizzy all afternoon.

He says that he told the 'leader of the PALS' (PALS is something to do with helping those who are ontheir own at lunchtime?). She took him into the classroom for the rest of lunchtime.

I ended up having totake him to the doctors this morning over something unrelated, but he then went back to school, he was back by about 10am.

He has also had ongoing problems with people following him round the playground hitting him. When he tells the mid-day assistants, they just tell DS2 to walk away from these people.So he spends his WHOLE lunchtime trying to avoid them. Due to his Autism,he will only tell the MDA's once what is going on - it takes him alot to tell even once.He has to have already BEEN hit to tell IYSWIM.

Today I had a quick word with his teacher, and her response was: "Well he said he couldn't tell me WHO had done it, so we can't do anything or put it in the book. We only have 3 people to look after 300 pupils, what do you want us to do? We can't POSSIBLY see everything. And if we don't see it, and your DS2 can't or won't tell us who is doing it, then there is nothing we can do, and your DS2 is so over-sensitive anyway that a simple nudge is seen as a push and makes him complain. He's going to get jostled and pushed in a playground this busy and he just needs to deal with it. We DO have an issue with 3 particular boys, but they were kept off the playground for 2 weeks at the end of last half term. And anyway, the best we can do is keep your DS2 indoors and off the playground at lunchtime, which isn't fair on him. Now I've got to go". All said in a fairly aggresive tone of voice.

The last 2 weeks of last half term were the ONLY two weeks in nearly a year that DS2 was coming home from school HAPPY. He doesn't often talk about things though - due to his Autism and dyspraxia, he finds it difficult to process his emotions and talk about them - or even fully identify them!

First of all, the school has 408 pupils, not 300. Then there is the fact that they are basically saying that if anything happens that no-one saw,then they are just going to ignore it.

I have had NUMEROUS problems with bullying at this school, which has a history of punishing the VICTIM rather than the bully (DD AND DS1 have also had MASSIVE problems requiring hospital treatment through bullying at this school.) The Head and Deputy Head get ONE parent, on their own, refusing to allow any support during meetings, and they use bullying tactics against any parent who complains,like spurious allegations of 'aggressive behaviour' (I know of at least 12 people who have had issues like this)

NOW, when I spoke to DS2's teacher today, I HADN'T seen DS2, because he was at an after school club. When he came home, he complained about his back hurting. When I asked him why, he told me that the same boys 'got him' today, two of them held him down, while the other BIT him.

These are 7/8yo's in Y3!!

He actually has visible bite marks and a massive red patch (on the OTHER side from yesterday) on his back. FGS! He says he told one of the TA's. Appaprently, she told him to go and play. Nothing else. I have had NO accident slips for EITHER incident. (Not unusual when it comes to bullying incidents here)

The class teacher is OBVIOUSLY not going to help. If I go to the Head, it will be awful, and as usual, he will bully me to the point of tears. He won't let me take notes when I have memory problems due to my epilepsy either, and as a Lone Parent, I have NO-ONE who can gowith me that the Head will ALLOW in the room with me. He ONLY lets me go in on my own.

I CANNOT change schools - there just ISN'T another school with places in DS2's year group - his school HAS the bulge class for the area, DS2's year rgoup has 88 pupils in 3 classes, when it is a 2-form entry school. He has been on the waiting list for 6 other schools since Reception - I contact them regularly but DS2 is still about 35-ish on the waiting list for ALL of them.

This is also the same primary school that 2 years ago, DS1 got pushed over so badly due to lack of supervision that he had concussion for TWO FULL WEEKS, he blacked out and they didn't call an ambulance OR call me and send him home - they kept him in class, fast asleep at the table, and the hospital were so concerned that he might have a fractured skull that they gave him a CT scan. The HT LIED and said on the ACCIDENT FORM that he had tripped on a paving slab. When I EVENTUALLY got to see the HT, I got 'escorted' from the school, and accused of 'threatening and aggressive behaviour'. Yet a week later, they BEGGED me to help out on a school trip as I had passed their CRB check - so if I WAS TRULY threatening and abusive, they wouldn't do that, would they?!

I just don't know what to do. It feels like my only options are:

  1. Let the situation carry on, do nothing, and let DS2 get assaulted worse and worse.

  2. Go to the Head, be bullied myself to the point of tears, cause myself so much stress that it ends up with me having a seizure, and get nothing done ANYWAY, and be told that I am using 'threatening and abusive behaviour' again, and as it is the second time, I am banned from the school premises until they need someone with a CRB check to help with something.

  3. Pull my DS2 out of school totally, with NO HOPE of a school place within 30 miles - which is useless to ma as I can't drive due to my epilepsy, and my LA only pay for transport up to 6 miles away - anything OVER that, and it becomes the PARENT'S responsibility.

If you have got to the end of this essay, well done!

Now - WWYD? I NEED some help here. I am DESPERATE. I can't have my DS2 being ATTACKED to the point of having visible bruising and bite marks etc, and it will no doubt get worse, but the school is TOTALLY unwilling to engage with parents and SOLVE any bullying issues properly.

PLUS - my name is mud TBH, as I have previously complained to the LEA about them illegally taking away DD's SA+ help for 8 months when DD was a mid-year SEN transfer due to us moving to this area, put in 3 other complaints to the Board of Governors about previous bullying incidents, one to the Governors about DD's lack of progress at SA+ and the SenCo's abject refusal to support an application for a statement for her which was done within 2 weeks of her being at Secondary who couldn't BELIEVE that the primary hadn't insisted on it due to DD's complex SEN.

I have also reprted them to the DFE when they LIED on official paperwork about DS1's serious head injury - the HT admitted privately to me that he HAD lied on the forms, as he wanted the LEA to replace the paving slabs in the playground, and an 'accident' would help that - irrelavent of the fact that DS1 was PUSHED by a child who had been systematically ABUSING him from the start of Reception until that point in Y3! (DS1 is now in Y5).

I am NOT the favourite person at the school - and they treat me AWFULLY.

OH - and there hasn't been a Parent Partnership Officer in my area for OVER 3 YEARS. So that's a non-starter for support too!

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LadySybilDeChocolate · 21/02/2012 18:25

Typical response from a rubbish school is to blame the child who is being bullied Hmm Document everything, dates, incidents etc and ask the school for a copy of their bullying policy. You do need to go to the head. Will it help if someone goes with you? Your poor son, this shouldn't be happening to him Sad

CardyMow · 21/02/2012 18:48

They won't let me take ANYONE in the room with me. Though I have managed to persuade DS2's dad (my Ex-P) to come to the appointment with me - I'd like to see them say that DS2's own DAD can't go into the room with me...HOWEVER - given my previous experiences, they will fob me off and try to give me an appointment in 3-4 weeks time. Which just WON'T be acceptable in this case, as it would mean DS2 being injured more in the playground in the meantime. And I'm NOT accepting DS2 being kept in at every break and lunch while we are waiting for an appointment to materialise.

I ALSO can't go in and say that I am prepared to wait until the HT is free that day, and won't leave until I have been seen which I ONLY did after I had been asking for an URGENT appointment for 2 whole weeks because THAT is WHY they accused me of 'threatening and aggressive behaviour' despite the fact that this was said VERY (purposely) calmly to the Deputy Head, while I was sat in a chair holding my handbag on my lap, with the Deputy Head TOWERING above me, and HE was displaying very aggrewssive behaviour...

It means that the supervision level at playtimes and lunctimes is 1 adult for every 135 pupils.

I need to know what the OFFICIAL rules on levels of supervision is for PRIMARY age pupils.

I also need to know if them NOT keeping my DS2 safe from daily physical attacks would class as a safeguarding issue. And if so, should I take it to Ofsted if I get no help from the HT. Which is as likely as pigs flying given the 7 years of experience I have of him.

And I need to know exactly WHAT I do. I am at a LOSS with this school now.

I CAN'T HE, due to my epilepsy, I need to rest in the day. Plus my DS2 isn't the kind of person who COULD listen and learn from ME, his parent. There IS no other school, their CURRENT school is the only one in a 30-mile radius with any spaces in Y3.

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LadySybilDeChocolate · 21/02/2012 18:52

You need to go to the LEA at least, it sounds like a nightmare. Have you looked at the private sector? Some are not as expensive as you think they are. I'll keep bumping for you, it may help to start the same thread in the bullying section as there's a lot of parents with experience of this and they will be able to advise you better then I can.

stargirl1701 · 21/02/2012 18:56

Phone the police. Photograph the injuries.

CardyMow · 21/02/2012 19:15

They are under 10yo - the police refuse to do ANYTHING. Have tried in the past with DS1's head injury.

LEA MORE than unhelpful too - I would go so far as to say obstructive, because they KNOW that I have NO choice to pull the DC's out due to severe shortage of school places here!.

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CardyMow · 21/02/2012 19:15

I have photographed the injuries.

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stargirl1701 · 21/02/2012 19:19

What about the community policeman attached to the school? I've found (as a teacher) they are much more willing to get involved.

CardyMow · 21/02/2012 19:23

It's hard to find out the accepted level of midday supervision for primary - the best I can find is the example here under the section headed: 'Sample local authority guidance on midday supervision ratios'. Which suggests a ratio of 1:75 for midday supervision.

Which means that a school with 408 pupils should have 5.44:408, or 5/6 supervisors for 408 pupils. Which is roughly DOUBLE what they have.

The supervision is woefully inadequate, and when combined with a defensive Head, and a culture of blaming the victim, and punishing the victim by keeping them indoors, is not very conducive to getting this situation to the point where my Ds2 is SAFE AT SCHOOL.

They are In Loco Parentis - he should be JUST AS SAFE with them as he is with me. And he ISN'T.

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CardyMow · 21/02/2012 19:24

We have ONE Community policeman for 17 schools. It could be a month before she gets to see me. She covers 4 HUGE housing estates.

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Gumby · 21/02/2012 19:26

Take him out
Get your ex to help you home educate, pay for a tutor, pay for private school
Tbh I'd look at moving house, I'd want all my kids out of there
Use exp's address for a new school
Or grandparents, or something
I'd move heaven & earth tbh

stargirl1701 · 21/02/2012 19:28

That's a nightmare. Stretched way too thin! What about CAB? Could they find a legal framework to support you and your family? We advise parents to access the charity Parent 2 Parent to provide support that is independent to the school but I'm unsure if they are Scotland specific.

stargirl1701 · 21/02/2012 19:31

As a school we were shocked to learn that there is no statutory duty to supervise the playground (Scotland). It was revealed when UNISON were striking and all the supervisors were on strike. The only duty, in law, was first aid cover. Children with support assistants were covered under separate legislation.

CardyMow · 21/02/2012 19:59

Ex CAN'T (and wont) help me to HE. He works, so can't PHYSICALLY help. He earns just a touch over NMW - no money for a tutor unless we don't EAT OR PAY THE ELECTRIC AND GAS AND WATER BILLS COMBINED. Private school? When I am on benefits and Ex-P earns just over NMW?! HA!

Can't move house out of this area - have PSO PREVENTING me from leaving a this specific ESTATE AND from moving my OLDER DS - my OTHER Ex won;t LET me move his school, so I would have one in this awful school and one not, and be UNABLE to get them both to school.

Ex-P's address is a ROOM IN A SHARED HOUSE. And you have to produce UTLITY BILLS in your name to get ANY school place.

Grandparents NOT in LA area - live outside it. So of NO use.

I have HONESTLY tried everything in the past, am at my wits end!!

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CardyMow · 21/02/2012 20:19

I NEED to change the ethos of the school penalising the victim, as it's the ONLY option other than DS2 getting beaten the hell out every day.

I CAN'T HE. I am disabled and on benefits. I have a 1yo baby. It's just npt possible.

HELP ME!

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ElmoFan · 21/02/2012 20:46

You need to keep a diary of every time your ds gets hurt , document times , where it happened , who you spoke to about it and what the school did to punish the bullies .
Every school has a " Duty Of Care" policy to protect the children in their care . threaten the Head with legal action if you have to, to get him to take action and protect your son . request a copy of their anti bullying policy (you are entitled to this)
Take your son to your Doctor and explain his injuries and make him aware of the bullying (this all helps to build a case against the school)

Good luck x

CardyMow · 21/02/2012 20:54

Taken to GP, GP aware, told me to talk to school.

done the diary, gets me nowhere.

Can't afford legal action - no legal aid for challenging schools now.

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ElmoFan · 21/02/2012 21:01

Citizens advice centre ? Might be able to arrange legal advice for you free ?

Even a once off letter from a solicitor would be enough to scare the school into protecting him .

CardyMow · 21/02/2012 21:05

It wasn't last time...I got the CAB to do it...the school ignored it and carried on as they were before, mostly because they KNOW I can't afford legal representation and advice, as I get FSM's...

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LadySybilDeChocolate · 21/02/2012 21:09

Try the children's legal centre, they are incredibly helpful.

RandomMess · 21/02/2012 21:13

Honestly can you look at moving homes and try and home ed in the meantime?

Where is this hell hole that you live in Sad

CardyMow · 21/02/2012 21:14

Tried - they are fairly local to me. They were brilliant with trying to get DD help with her SN - but in prior bullying + lying situations with the school, they said they couldn't help, because in the absence of any incident forms, and given DS2's Autism, and inability to give a clear, coherent statement, it would be "The school's word against yours, and unprovable that it was down to a bullying incident or if it was just an accident".

I feel like over the last 7 years, I have tried everything, and it feels like I have to send my DS2 to school tomorrow KNOWING that either HE has to miss out on all his lunchtime and breaktime, or that he is going to get assaulted AGAIN. Sad.

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CardyMow · 21/02/2012 21:17

Random - am a HA tenant, and am moving to a larger house in 4 weeks. Still in same area though - due to PSO for my other child with a diferent dad.

I CANNOT move areas or I will be in breach of court order and will be at risk of prison.

I can't drive due to my epilepsy, so I am reliant on buses.

I just don't know what to do, and I am in tears at the thought of having to send himback to school in the morning when I KNOW the Head will REFUSE to see me...

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3cutedarlings · 21/02/2012 21:19

I'd take him out, i would then ring social services and ask them for help! there is no way in a million years i would send him there EVER again.

Speak to the childrens legal centre, also i believe NAS offer legal advice.

ifeelloved · 21/02/2012 21:19

I'm so sorry Hunty, I didn;t get through your 1s post as I'm so angry on your behalf.

Contact the govenors and the police. If this happened to an adult the police would have been involced ages ago, why is it OK when its children. I so hope you and your DS get the help you need.

The head and teachers should be ashamed. Unfortunately it is up to you to stand up to them on your DS behalf.

RandomMess · 21/02/2012 21:20
Sad

Complete nightmare

Honestly I'd try and home educate, hmm I wonder about calling NSPCC for advice too?