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Scottish accents and phonics

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suzikettles · 13/12/2011 11:19

If you and your children have a Scottish accent were you a bit by dc's being taught [ar] and [er] as separate sounds?

Ds has just finished the Jolly Phonics sounds and came home with his last sound which was [ar]. The action is something like you're yawning (saying "ah, ah") but we don't pronounce ar like that as we actually use the sound [r] at the ends of words.

Ds isn't fazed at all, and it's not really a big deal, but is there a reason the school didn't just take them out? I guess all the children don't have Scottish accents though.

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DamselInDisarray · 14/12/2011 16:45

My (Glaswegian) stepdad says sterr.

tabulahrasa · 14/12/2011 16:49

oh, I say stayerr, to be fair I'm not Glaswegian, I'm from the west coast, but not Glasgow... I say fillum and poyim as well though

sugartongue · 14/12/2011 18:02

Ha! I knew my suggestion that a Northern accent might actually be better than a southern for something would cause disquiet for the southerners...it has to be admitted that the northern short A provides more consistency within the phonics system (it won't be though). Also I struggle to see how asking for half a pound of butter would e any more problematic in Sheffield than anywhere else, but then I suppose maybe all the terraced housing, flat caps, smoking factories and whippets distracted he question asker...by eck ee thump, it's grim up north...

madwomanintheattic · 14/12/2011 18:37

ferrets.
they are the cause of all the problems.
the whippets are just about manageable.

CaurnieBred · 14/12/2011 19:22

Hah - you wouldn't believe the problems I have had when visiting the southwest asking for ice - I've eventually had to say "you know, frozen water" as they have thought I was asking for eyes or something!

AgentProvocateur · 14/12/2011 19:53

I had a similar problem in Penrith, in the Lake District, when I went to buy towels en route to Centre Parcs. "Tiles?" "No, towels" "Tiles for the roof?"

I didn't think that Glaswegians pronounced towels any differently to anyone else. Evidently, we do.

Caz10 · 14/12/2011 21:21

Stay-ers on the road up to Glasgow, sterrs once you get north and east of the city centre! (glesga city centre that is of course!)

My pupils struggled with igh, it is a very different sound with our accent!

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