Level 3s at end Year 2

[BeckyBendyLegs]

We've just had stats results for DS1 who is at the end of Year 2. DS received levels 3 in all except one area where he got level 2a. I really don't know what this means except that it is above average. Does this just mean he takes after DH (ie too clever for his own good)? I wish the school would explain these things! Basically I just want some explanation - I did google but nothing much came up to help explain what level 3 means.

Level 3 in yr 2 is not the national standard. National standard is level 2, if your child gets 3a then they are in top 12% for maths, for example. My dcs all got 3s....no 4s though, not even for the amazingly g&t child in the class, he read at 2!! I think it depends upon the teacher, some teacher require consistent evidence and some just a little.

Absolutely HelloKitty - they are so young, and the most important thing to me is that my DSs are enjoying school, which from the comments on their reports they are - I want them to enjoy learning, be thirsty for knowledge about the world, and just have fun. That's what I was like at school, and I still am, and I was never the brightest tool in the toolbox in terms of final grades.

why do you mean insane?

but our average is 4 in year 6 isn't it.

so by year 9 it's not that bad as an average score is it?

god i really hate these scores

No, expected level at the end of Y6 is 4b. Level 5 is very good, and above expected levels.

Any level 6s we've had have reached it by the end of Y6.

DD slipped into conversation today that she is working at level 5 in literacy. She is in year 4. Could this be right? I thought she was confused
She got 3a's in her year 2 SATs.

crapola My dcs all got 3s....no 4s though, not even for the amazingly g&t child in the class, he read at 2!! I think it depends upon the teacher, some teacher require consistent evidence and some just a little.

Every teacher MUST collect 'consistent' evidence for the levels reported at KS1.
I find a teacher assessment of 4s in all subjects !

p.s. = amazing, not necessarily shocking!

Level 5 in Y4 is perfectly possible - particularly for those very able children who do end up with 6s.

Brill

BusterGut Fri 08-Jul-11 21:15:33
crapola My dcs all got 3s....no 4s though, not even for the amazingly g&t child in the class, he read at 2!! I think it depends upon the teacher, some teacher require consistent evidence and some just a little.

Every teacher MUST collect 'consistent' evidence for the levels reported at KS1.
I find a teacher assessment of 4s in all subjects !

Sorry I don't understand your post.....probably me, not you. I do egt the bit about consistent... I genuinely believe there's room for error/discrepancy but apparently not.

not all schools ensure their above average children keep progressing unfortunately. ds2 was level 4 in maths at the end of y2 (he is exceptionally able in maths) and has spent the last two years getting 100% in level 5 papers (they've just spent virtually the entire time in Y6 doing revision) and is now thoroughly bored with school and switched off, having learned nothing new :( I'm hoping secondary school will reinvigorate him

No - legal requirements are reams of evidence, whoever the teacher. And they are also moderated by LEAs.

Crapola:
You said that 'some teachers require consistent evidence and some just a little'.
All teachers should collect 'consistent' evidence to report a level. If a child writes at 2a from January to May, and then does an amazing piece of work in June, the level reported should be 2a, because that is the consistent level.

Yes LeQUeen I believe it's right the national average expectation year 6 is level 4b and students are expected to progress 5 sub-levels across KS3 so a 6c is the expectation at age 14 and that leads to estimated 5 A* - C grades at GCSE

it's pathetically low

If it helps, we were given the following national figures for % children getting at least level 3 (in 2010): Speaking and listening 21%, Reading 26%, Writing 12%, Mathematics 20%, Science, 21%.

I was told that the average grade for end of year 6 is 4c which to me is ridiculously low. ds is at the end of y4 has achieved two 4a and a 4b and I do think a lot of other children in his class with the right input could achieve this as well. We have done some extra English and maths with him at home to prepare him for 11+/CE exams and it's really boosted his levelssince last year going up 4 subset levels. The school are starting to think about letting the very able yr 5s join yr 6 for their maths lesson and maybe start them on yr 7 work if necessary to challenge them. I'm getting seriously worried about how schools don't really put in much thought in challenging the very able kids hence much pride but worry as well. If the government really wants UK to beable to compete with China and India they need to nurture the able as I know they have higher academic expectations of their youngsters

Just as a matter of interest, secondary teachers, are GCSEs measured against levels?
(activate just said something I'd never even considered before!)

National expected level is a 4b.