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Year 2 times table question

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southernbelle77 · 10/06/2011 17:42

What times tables should an average ability year 2 child know by the end if the year? Just wondering how DC is doing.

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Gooseberrybushes · 12/06/2011 16:38

yy in the sixties we inhaled them with the playdo fumes Grin

Jux · 12/06/2011 16:49

Yes. In what is now reception, we had all the tts on roller blinds which our teacher would pull down once a day and we would chant them. This happened every single school day, and by the time we were in Y2 we knew them off by heart, right up to 12 x12. I know them still and could almost certainly pass mrz's tests with no problem. My mum learnt the same way and could still recite them when she was 84!

Elibean · 12/06/2011 19:24

Maybe I was just very fast at mental arithmetic Wink

Or maybe I inhaled too much playdough Grin

mrz · 12/06/2011 20:18

I'm upset we never had playdough in my school in the sixties Hmm

Gooseberrybushes · 12/06/2011 20:56

Do you not believe we had it? we definietly had tt's in reception though

don't you remember that delicious smell.. I'm convinced it resulted in an addiction to smelljoy that has resulted in surreptitiously sniffing firelighters at my age

anyway - I was telling my child today how we (at our incerdibly comprehesive primary school) were doing pounds shillings and pence takeaways with 12 to the top one to the bottom - and realised it must have been when I was five-six just because of the age of decialisation

does this seem about the right age to you mrz z

Jux · 12/06/2011 21:04

We had no play dough! Wasn't invented in the first half of the sixties; we was all deprived.

Gooseberrybushes · 12/06/2011 21:06

it was around then I think

Gooseberrybushes · 12/06/2011 21:07

on a more serious note

I deplore the view that children shouldn't start learning tt's until they can understand multiplication

it delays the rote learning beyond the stage when they gaily and unthinkingly absorb, to the stage where they are bored by rote and you have to make it playful and fun and exciting and that

mrz · 12/06/2011 21:13

We had Times tables but definitely no play dough (but my school only had 1 teacher and 30 children aged 4-11)

mrz · 12/06/2011 21:15

We did have an open fire in the classroom though so may well have sniffed firelighters

mrz · 12/06/2011 21:18

I remember learning £ s d and lb oz and gills and pints and quarts and that 1760 yard in a mile and 10 chains in a furlong and 8 furlongs in a mile in the infants ... by rote

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 12/06/2011 21:29

You are thinking of plasticine. Fab smell, but always ended up brown!

Nothing it too late to start at 7! Grin

Gooseberrybushes · 12/06/2011 21:33

cripes yes pints and quarts, gallons and pints

we never did gallons and pints by the "eight" equivalent of decimal arithmetic though, only currency

no no definitely playdoh smell - heavenly - shame one can't link it really

am quite worried about the firelighters but then i don't drink

Gooseberrybushes · 12/06/2011 21:34

but yes it was always brown and very marvellous, brown "caterpillars"

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 12/06/2011 21:39

Maybe some lovely teacher made it? It was definitely plasticine at my school in the very early seventies. I don't remember playdo coming out in the shops until much later.

startail · 12/06/2011 21:51

playdoh did exist my sister had some, but it dried up. Then it was back to BROWN plasticine that wouldn't go through the playdoh machine.

startail · 12/06/2011 21:54

Sorry that has nothing to do with times tables, which is probably a good thing. Tables are the most boring thing on the planet (after spellings). DD2 has know hers for ages, but even in Y5 they still get them. If I practice with her she is better than me Blush

mrz · 12/06/2011 21:56

I remember having playdough as a child just not at school

Play doh came to England in 1964

MollieO · 12/06/2011 22:00

Ds is yr 2 and knows his 2, 5 and 10 times tables. The other class in the yr knows their 3 and 6 tables as well. Ds's teacher hasn't bothered with those. His class have to do 60 questions in 5 mins. The other class is given 100. No difference in ability between the two classes but a big difference in teaching focus. The other class teacher likes maths and focuses on this to the detriment of other things.

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 12/06/2011 22:01

Must have been too exotic and newfangled for my school! Grin

mrz · 12/06/2011 22:02

we just didn't play Hmm

Jux · 12/06/2011 22:41

Playdoh was invented in the mid-50s in Cincinatti. It was exported to England in 1964. I was in Y2 then. It wouldn't have got to us for many more years. In fact, I never even saw playdog until one of my friend's little sister got it, but she was a good 8 years younger than us.

Jux · 12/06/2011 22:43

However, having seen playdog, I went on to see play doh and there was no stopping me after that. I saw Mr Men and recently, I saw something called a pc.Grin

EllenJaneisnotmyname · 12/06/2011 23:33

Playdog sounds so much more fun, though!

TheFlyingOnion · 13/06/2011 07:46

my year 2 class know 2s, 5s and 10s FWIW. No more than that.