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yes another reading question
just after some general opinons really
my son in reception still gets pretty tired from school but teacher wants him to try to read his reading book everynight
whens the best time to do this do people find ? straight after school before he gets even more tired or let him blow off some steam, have dinner and then tackle it ??
many thanks

Would he be awake enough before school to read to you? (assuming you have time)

ooooh interesting idea... he might bo will try it.. do you think that's the way to go then ?

Ds always reads over breakfast - he and I are early birds. Dd reads in the evening as she most certainly isn't ...

We have snack and bit of play, usually do reading half four ish. Usually recharged enough by then

Hi

I have posted 'rants' on this topic before!

The majority of Reception children do not 'read' as such - yes, share books, look at pictures, talk about what the book might be about, etc.

Does DS know his sounds? Reading today should be using a phonics scheme, NOT the old whole words 'look and say' methods.

I have worked as Teaching Assistant for over 20 years, and am now a voluntary helper in a small Primary school, two days a week, mainly supporting five Reception children, but not much of what we do is 'reading'.

Perhaps ask his teacher exactly HOW he should be reading, and what is the best support you can give.

I stand to be corrected, but I would not expect a R child to have to do much more than just 'share' a book with someone at home.

What scheme books are they on? I hope it isn't Oxford Reading Tree, which if you have looked at many postings on here, is not rated very highly these days: 20 years ago, Yes, but not now (though they have introduced phonics books that some schools use - Songbirds I think it is called.)

If you need any further help, come back to me if you wish.

Is the problem just tiredness or like my DS, would he prefer to run around/play with toys?

A trick I use with my DS is to do the reading in the car. I let him sit in the front passenger seat whilst he is reading and he is therefore not going to run away and he is being treated to a turn in the front. Would like to add that the car is parked!! No reading whist going anywhere.

This one isn't about reading per se, ferguson, just the best time for it.

In Reception, we got home, made a snack, and looked at the book whilst we ate it.

By Year 1, he had more energy and his bedtime moved, so we started reading after bathtime, before bed.

Year 2, and he's just read a chapter to me now.

(turns around to smile lovingly at son, and notices he's put book down and has got the airdrying clay out - all over my clean kitchen floor and his pjs...)

Ferguson I take exception with your statement The majority of Reception children do not 'read' as such - yes, share books, look at pictures, talk about what the book might be about, etc. and as a reception teacher I did expect my class to do much more than share a book with someone I expected them to read the words using their decoding skills and to make sense of what they read and to recall it afterwards ...

DS reads his over breakfast. And yes, he does actually read it.

Dd reads hers in the morning after breakfast. And ferguson yes she does read- she's free reading, just like I was in R.

Ds1 read straight after school in reception happily ds2 does nothing happily and he reads his before bed under the rule of if you read me a book then i'll read to you or else he grumps and takes forever to read what actually takes 2 mins while he concentrates.

DD1 also reads over breakfast, and sometimes just after tea before bed when she is feeling cuddly, but at night she gets grumpy quickly if the words are new.
And yes, she reads as well. What an odd post ferguson.

Is it the same book every night or changed daily?

We read together either in bed - DS gets extra stories from me or DH in exchange for reading his school books - call it bribery but it works . Or, in the morning before school. Basically, any time he shows interest.

And yes, I agree with mrz, he READS. We've been SHARING books since birth. And, oh dear, heaven forfend, but his school using ORT. It may not be ideal, but he seems to enjoy the books, which is surely the most important thing.

I think majority of DD's reception class are reading, not just sharing. Bizarre comment

Ds1 is certainly reading, mainly not the books from school (too easy, a separate rant). Best time for him is morning, we are early risers and he reads to dh while i make the breakfast. Usually also reads to me at bedtime, usually after i have read to him. Sometimes (very cute) he will read to dd2 while she eats her breakfast

What is all this fuss about reading? Why should reception children be reading anyway? Share books; have fun when it fits in with you. It's your family, not the teacher's, and your child.

We try and read every night but I recon its more like 4 nights a week. With dd she's so keen she'll read it on the toilet given half a chance . She'll often read her book in the bath.

DS on the other hand is often too tired and we might just read 1 or 2 pages and some nights if its obvious he's just not able to manage it then we don't try at all.

we walk hme takes 15 to 20 mins, some times dd has a snack. her mood in this time ranges from ignoring me to being rude and unkind, to just as we get to the door perks up, happy as larry.

she reads strait away once we are home.

s time wise if you have a short journey home I wuld do it when you notice a time when he has energy.

my dd is in reception and very keen reader and on a pretty high level (I think) but if im honest some days she requests not to read so I dont make her.

just to add the reading scheme book at the moment we are reciving are not yet required to be read by the child, they are for parents to read with. my dn who is younest in class does not read to his parents. they read to him and he picks out some words.

some of dds class are still getting books with no or one word.

SORRY ! [ cringe ]

I have obviously upset too many people to name you all, but if I may pick up on PLW's post - That is brilliant that you have been sharing books since birth, and that is what the best of parents do - Sadly, many of the schools I have worked in parents can't be bothered - or maybe just can't - read with, or to, their children. PLW, compared to many children I support your DS has had around four years head start over kids who come into school not having any books in the home, maybe never even having HELD a book, until they are confronted with this mysterious object when they start school.

mrz - I have seen, and enjoyed, your 'posts' before, and I suppose I should have said "the majority of R ch I have had personal experience of." I'm sorry to say that I often find we are still trying to get ch to read and understand in Yr 3 or 4.

On another 'thread' I was criticised for saying I had heard that maybe seventy percent of a child's reading ability comes from home. I didn't intend that to diminish the role of teacher and school, but rather to show that the home environment and degree of support from parents, plays a huge part in a child's success in education.

In homes where there is NO SUPPORT, where the TV is never off, where a child is lucky to be clothed and fed, never mind be talked to or listened to, then it does not seem surprising to me that they make little progress in school.

Sorry again for having annoyed so many of you.

Ferguson (love the name!), not annoyed with you, just the whole system that wants to get children into education younger and younger, and teach them skills younger and younger, squeezing out childhood ... and for what? Other countries, where children start school later, do just as well.

DS1 reads his dull, dull "Digger can run. Liz can run. Where can we run, Dad?" look and say book to me at tea, then again in the car on the way to school. As it's all based on memorising whole words at the moment, this helps it go in.

Before tea, and sometimes after bathtime he reads me the stuff he's interested in, and we share books - not in the sense of him reading to me but things like alternating lines of Dr Seuss books and doing his reading chest books.

Ferguson I totaly agree with what you are saying in my dds school the children will not read to an adult at school untill the begining of summer term. They have finished the single sounds ie abc and are now on sounds with more than one vowel, not sure of the phenetic terms but suh as ai, igh, ou etc etc.

the emphasis on reading at the moment is to share a book at home. they dont seem to have many oxford readin g tree but lots of different books. seems to be colour coded going from lime, purple, pink I dont even know the order dd one day had no words then she had lime then pink and she told me one day she can read the red ones so she asked the teacher to have a red one, wich she did and that was very difficult but she can read them, and im amazed. my dd tells me she and only one other chose red books my dn still has simple books.

I can understand there is such a big difference in not only children who dont get many books at home but also some children are a whole year difference in age. I find lots of folk on mn sying thier children can read and write. My friends dd could read and write at 3. what ever, but my dd has excelled he since starting school, my dd could not write her bame now she understands punctuation and can write a short scentance, friends dd cant because she uses capitals and does not understand the magic e or changing vowels as she cant read she only momorises the words.

i think to much emphasis is put on ability in R, where in fact it should be about introducyion to learning. my dn may excelle my dd next year.

children of 4 and 5 should only be doing what they are comfertable with at this age.