What is the usual class size for yr 3?

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will have a quick head count tomorrow as it seems huge but last year dd was 1 of 25 so maybe it's not that big .
What sort of size is unworkable?
There is a full time TA, dd's TA for 20 hours and another SEN TA for 25 hours.

In a fully subscribed state school - 30, I think. We have that, but with a full time TA as well as the teacher.

There are no restrictions on the number of pupils that can be in yr3 class other than the obvious size restrictions of the room.

Anything over 35 I would be very against and with 3 TAs and the Teacher in the room 30 might be quite a squeeze in an average size classroom.

No restrictions? Really? Is it just the schools my DC have gone to who have imposed their own restrictions? I would be opposed to over 32, personally.

DS had 24 in his class last year, and I could really see the difference from a class with 30. They have three new children this year, so I'm hoping someone will decide to emigrate.

No restrictions in KS2. I have had 32/33 quite often as we are so oversubscribed. Parents move their child to our school in year 3 as soon as they can't be refused on 'infant class size of 30' rule.
We wouldn't go much over 32/33 though as it would impact on the learning of the other pupils.

Year 3 classes are only restricted by the size of the room. There is no upper limit on numbers. It gets unworkable for a single teacher in the upper 30s

I'm sure dd has got it wrong but 42 is unheard of isn't it?
That said she took in 40 sticks of rock today and came home and told me there wasn't enough.
Mind you I can't always believe what dd says as there is a big gap between her receptive (low) and expressive speech (very high).

no not unheard of biggest class we've had was 46

I think it is about 30.

Ds is incredibly lucky and has only 19 in his class.

No legal restrictions, but between 30 and 32 is usual.

I once taught a class of 12. It was horrible.

I have 28 in my Y4 class, an additional adult for an hour each morning and an hour every other afternoon.

This is in an inner-London community school. My classroom is large enough to accommodate the same number again.

I wonder if she meant 32
It's a new school, dd joined six weeks after it opened.At the time there were lots of empty places.The head has a reputation for leading very successful schools,OFSTED call him inspirational.
Within 6 months 70 new pupils joined so when I looked round the y3 classes looked small but I suppose the 70 children must be absorbed somewhere.I will find out tomorrow and then I'll be wanting to know how worried I should be.

33 is the max in scotland.

A class of 12 would be a nightmare

Panic over it's 31, dd ran out of rock because she handed it out to her friends in both classes

34 in ours - mixed yr3/4 class.

'A class of 12 would be a nightmare'

Why ? DD1 (Y5) is in a class of 13 and it's lovely

I disagree that a small class would be a nightmare personally. DD is in a class of 15 and it is lovely. No problems whatsoever. In her school classes are generally 12 or so in preprep and 12-18 in prep.

In the junior shcool near where I work there are generally 30 to a class. Some classes have TAs if there are children with IEPs (not no TA one to one allocated) and some classes have PT or shared TAs.

Depends on the children. In this particular class of 12 there were several little gits big characters, and they couldn't be diluted in a larger number of children. They all wound each other up and it was just awful. They got put in a mixed age class the next year and it was much better.

12 is too small for a good social/emotional mix I think 18 - 20 works most effectively

My ds is in a class of 35 in year 3!

There were 33 at one point in my DD's yr 3 class.

There is no upper limit for juniors. 3 TAs for most of the week sounds very well-resourced.

LOL @ the rock to both classes!

"Depends on the children."

With regards to small classes I think you are right with this comment. In DD's class the class size has varied between 14 and 16 since she started and it is all girls. And it has always been great. The class gelled quickly from the start and there have been no fallings out or anything. Can honestly say that it has worked well. But then no others in the school where class size is 12, esp in the lower school and they have felt the same - works extremely well.

From a teaching POV I suppose it does also depend on what youa re used to andwhat you personally prefer.

30-33 at DCs school. Works fine, not always a TA either, sometimes work as 2 or all 3 classes, so up to 99 with 3 teachers (+ usually some TAs and students).

Dd2 is in a class of 20. It's really nice as her year group is smaller so they kept the two classes but just had smaller ones. Where we used to live she was in infant classes of 17 or they doubled up with two teacher/rooms and mixed & matched. Those at her old infant school are now in one class of 36 so I think she got the better deal!