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Have I done the right thing?

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magicmummy1 · 22/07/2010 19:02

Hello, this is my first post on this forum, though I have been known to lurk. I just want some advice, really, as I'm feeling quite confused and starting to doubt my own judgement. Sorry if it's long - please bear with me.

I have a beautiful, bright, bubbly five year old daughter, who has just finished her first year at school in reception. She has had a blissfully happy year, made loads of friends and developed in all sorts of positive ways. She has come home from school almost every day, buzzing with excitement about whatever she has been doing, and I have been really delighted with the wide range of opportunities that the school has offered so far.

Anyway, she has always been a bright little girl, with a very curious mind, an excellent memory and a talent for picking up new ideas quite quickly. Consequently, it was no surprise to me that she was doing well at school, and obviously, OH and I were delighted with her progress. About half-way through the year, the teacher told us at parents' evening that she was performing at a level significantly beyond that of her peers, and again, we were pleased but not surprised - we knew that she was a very good reader, and she has always loved playing with numbers etc. We were amused when the teacher told us that the other little kids liked to gather around for dd to read to them, and we were confident that she was going to make the transition to year 1 very easily.

Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, towards the end of this academic year, dd's teacher approached me and asked if she could have a word. She then said that the school were considering moving dd into the year 2 class, instead of year 1, as they felt that she might do better in a more challenging environment, and they wanted to know what we felt about this. I initially assumed that they were talking about a mixed year 1/2 class, but she explained that dd would be the only one to move up. At this point, my gut instinct kicked in, and I said no, definitely not - dd has been so happy in her class this year, and I felt that she would be very unhappy to be moved. The teacher asked if we wanted to think about it, and again, going on gut instinct, I said that I didn't need to. She said that was fine, and left it at that.

I am ashamed to say that I didn't even consult my OH on this question, because I was so sure in my own mind that it was the wrong thing to do. Fortunately, when I told him, he shared my view, and other family members have been supportive of our decision. However, I have mentioned the teacher's suggestion to a couple of friends (not with kids at the same school!) and they both think that I have made a mistake. One of them has been quite outspoken about this, and has said that I am "holding her back".

Like any parent, I want the best for my child, and I am devastated at the suggestion that I might be deliberately holding her back. But holding her back from what, I wonder? Yes, if she went up a year, she might achieve a few academic milestones a bit earlier, but to what end? What would she actually gain by this, and wouldn't she lose far more by being taken out of her peer group? This is a genuine question.

I do understand that acceleration can be the only option if you have a child who is very bored or frustrated with his peers, but my dd has been perfectly happy, so I can't see the point. But my friend keeps saying that the teachers have suggested this for a reason, presumably because they think it is in her best interests...and that year 1 is different from reception because it is much more structured and less child-led. So I want to know, am I missing something here? I have always believed that a good teacher will stretch and challenge all of the children in her classroom, regardless of their ability, but is this not the case?

If you have managed to get this far without losing interest, I would love you to just tell me that we have done the right thing and that our daughter won't suffer as a result of this. But if you think I have made a mistake, then I would like to hear your views too! Thank you very much!

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magicmummy1 · 22/07/2010 19:04

Sorry, forgot to mention that she is a summer baby, so already one of the youngest in her class - this means that she would be almost two years younger than some of the year 2 chilren.

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cat64 · 22/07/2010 19:09

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belledechocolatefluffybunny · 22/07/2010 19:10

You are not holding her back, you are keeping her with her age group. The school should be differentiating the work for her ability, not moving her to a different year so they don't have to do this. By skipping a year it causes alot of problems in secondary school/university as they don't accept children before the normal age without a great fight.

I allowed ds to skip a year, he was moved back in a new school so he'd done year 5 twice. He was ahead in the first year 5 class aswell so he'd learned nothing for over a year, it was a real mess.

magicmummy1 · 22/07/2010 19:24

Thank you so much for the quick replies, and for reassuring me that I haven't made a mistake here. Deep down, I think I know it's the right decision, but you can't help but question things like this when other people are so eager to tell you that you have done the wrong thing - and I usually have great respect for the judgement of the friend who keeps telling me this, which makes it all the harder to ignore!

Sorry to hear about your son's bad experience, belledechocolatefluffybunny (great name ). I hadn't even thought that far ahead, but it's a very good point.

I do have confidence in the school's ability to differentiate the work - after all, they have done this really well in reception. However, I don't have any older kids, and got a bit confused when my friend kept telling me that things were different in year 1.

Thanks again both of you for helping me to have the confidence in my own decision.

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hocuspontas · 22/07/2010 19:27

Of course you have done the right thing. Don't listen to those friends. I'm surprised the school even suggested it. Unless they have an extra pupil this year that they need to 'lose' for year 1

PixieOnaLeaf · 22/07/2010 19:28

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orienteerer · 22/07/2010 19:30

You are doing exactly the right thing. A child in DS's class skipped Yr 1 and then ended up repeating Yr 2!

CarGirl · 22/07/2010 19:35

Nearly all LEAs insist that they stay with their peer group, don't take their GCSEs until the correct school year etc etc so at some point they end up repeating a year and losing their friends at an age where friendships are less fluid.

You have absolutely done the correct thing IMHO

magicmummy1 · 22/07/2010 19:37

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

All of your wonderful replies have made me feel much better already.

hocuspontas - I did wonder if they might have another motive for moving her. A couple of children in her year group are leaving next year, so I don't think so, but I guess we'll find out when school starts again in September.

pixieonaleaf - that's fantastic that your ds is still in his own class despite being so far ahead. Funnily enough, art and PE are precisely the areas in which my dd doesn't excel either - takes after her mother, sadly!

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hester · 22/07/2010 19:40

Your instincts sound good to me. Your lovely, bright daughter is thriving where she is, so don't mess with it.

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belledechocolatefluffybunny · 22/07/2010 19:42

He's back on track now, it's taken a while though. Academically he's hard to cater for as he's so far ahead, despite the repeat. He just picks things up too quickly.

Don't worry about what other people say, they are not the ones who have to live with the fall out.

snowdropz · 22/07/2010 19:48

I was moved up a class, was teased a bit for it - and because I missed my friends I acted mediocre so that I repeated the class and got back in with my friends.

I was clever enough to hide this and did not reveal it to anyone.

LittleSilver · 22/07/2010 19:50

I'd say you did the right thing, absolutely. Plus it was your gut instinct. Always go with your gut!

And congratulations!

magicmummy1 · 22/07/2010 19:52

pixieonaleaf - yes, I probably will stick around, I think. I am overwhelmed by all the lovely replies, tbh, and by the speed at which they came!! (Not sure if I dare mention it on here, but I did try posting on netmums about something a while back, and the response wasn't particularly helpful! But perhaps it's taboo to talk about netmums on here?!? )

belledechocolatefluffybunny - so glad to hear that your ds is back on track. It's so hard sometimes to know what is right for them, isn't it?

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MathsMadMummy · 22/07/2010 19:52

sounds like the right choice to me. maybe in future if she gets bored and frustrated they can reconsider, but why rock the boat now? hopefully they are aware enough to provide extension work etc. just make sure you keep an eye on it to ensure she is suitably stretched - schools seem to vary so much in their provision.

try not to let others get to you. unfortunately it is in some people's nature to be critical and interfering - possibly due to jealousy that you've got such a clever little girl! I hate to say it but I'd bet that if you had decided to move her up, other mums would be bitching about you being pushy

anyway - I hereby order you to stick around on MN and keep postin'

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 22/07/2010 19:54

Welcome to mumsnet magicmummy

ReasonableDoubt · 22/07/2010 19:56

I think you have made exactly the right decision and I commend you.

You have a bright child, and that is unlikely to change. You can do 'extension' activities to stretch and stimulate her - trips to museums, extended reading and maths, learning an instrument or whatever - in your own free time, and really cater to her curiosity and ability to absorb information.

But the main thing is - she is HAPPY. She has friends and is getting on well. Why tamper with that?

You won't regret this, I don't think. You know your child best and you have made a considered and completely logical decision.

Have a great summer and look forward to next term!

nickschick · 22/07/2010 20:08

I think you were right to do that.

It doesnt matter how bright she is she will still only have the social skills of a child the age she is and in many instances possibly younger - school isnt just about acadaemia its about life and social skills are a huge part let her be the clever kid and shine .....if im not mistaken if youd agreed to it she would have had to go to secondary a year earlier too where she would be almost 2 years younger than many of her peers.

You did the right thing but a word of warning you may find that her 'intellect' stabilises and so she isnt always the top.

Adair · 22/07/2010 20:12

I think you were right. My mum had the same decision to make about me (though I was a Sept child, so only two weeks off the older class) and she asked me what I wanted to do . Anyway, I said I wanted to stay with my friends and I am really glad I did.

And agree, instinct is good. Enjoy the summer!

coventgarden · 22/07/2010 20:12

I had mixed feelings reading your post and was trying to think what I would do if I was asked about this for my summer born very bright child. I am still not sure what I would do, probably let her try the above class for a bit under the proviso she could move back if she wanted to try and then didn't settle.

You have to have done the right thing for your child as you went with your gut feeling.

basildonbond · 22/07/2010 20:15

I was moved up a year in infants and was utterly miserable - I was a summer baby and so nearly two years younger than some of the other kids and boy, did they make me feel it

At the end of the year the school decided to let me stay with my original class (i.e. repeat the year) which was academically boring but much more socially comfortable!

I have no idea why my mum agreed to me being put up as the same thing had happened to her and she ended up doing y6 twice!

nannyj · 22/07/2010 20:15

I think you've done the right thing, if she moves up she may struggle socially a bit more and if she's happy why worry.

yellowkiwi · 22/07/2010 22:10

I'm surprised the school have suggested this actually. She may be able to go to Y2 for some of her lessons or have some extra sessions with other g&t children. Some schools link with other schools and then hold days for g&t children. Perhaps the school would consider these ideas before actually moving her up a year.

ChristianaTheSeventh · 22/07/2010 22:16

I was moved up a year from Year 3 to Year 5. I really think it was wrong and it damaged my confidence. I was bullied. Yes I was bright, but it was extremely isolating and I didn't learn the social intelligence I needed.

And, as you say, she might reach milestones earlier but the others will catch up - they always do. I was going to be leaving school with A-levels at 16 and what was the point really? So I repeated my penultimate year, taking different subjects.

Moving up a year and the resultant bullying scarred me for life!

You are right not to do it. Let her play with her friends, let her read every evening - I used to go to the library daily - you can stretch her too, just by reading and doing fun interesting things and introducing her to a wide variety of subjects.