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interviewing tomorrow for ds nursery place, am worried that they will let ds coast as he is pretty forward for his age.....yes I know this sounds up myself, but it's true and I'm worried...?

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dandycandyjellybean · 09/11/2008 20:43

His language skills are really amazing, and in lots of other areas he is way beyond his peers; not a brag but an honest observation based on others comments, including the people at the creche where he has been a couple of times a week since 5 months.

I just feel very strongly that the first 5 years are so important; he is such a sponge at the moment, and I am genuinely worried that he will be passed over or allowed to coast because there will be lots of other kids who need more assistance (again, please don't take that the way it sounds! my kid's this genius and all the others are thick - truly not what I'm meaning at all). Please help, what can I ask to make sure that he will be 'well serviced' where ever he goes, and more to the point how can I ask this sort of thing without the teachers immediately switching off and thinking 'pfb, or mummy up herself alert'?

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hunkermunker · 09/11/2008 21:25

SBBC, don't - nobody's having a go at you and he sounds like a lovely little lad. You're obviously very proud of him and that's fine too. It is hard to hand over your child's care to someone else.

Sidge · 09/11/2008 21:26

Worry not. All small children are like sponges and as long as you choose a nursery that recognises that and allows the children to explore, play, interact, choose, socialise, run, jump, sing, get messy and just be little children then you (and he!) will be fine.

TotalChaos · 09/11/2008 21:27

as long as he is happy and the nursery staff are caring and supportive, he'll be fine. you're overthinking this - you don't need the perfect nursery that stretches him the most - you want one that's good enough for him.

Littlefish · 09/11/2008 21:28

SBBC - thanks for the info on your ds. He sounds lovely! Just what we wanted to hear. Please don't bugger off.

You won't make the wrong decision because you are a loving mum who wants the best for her child. The best thing to do is have a look round the nursery and see if you can imagine your ds playing there. I promise you that you will get a "gut" feeling for whether it's the right place for him.

I have an only child myself, and I really do think that the most important thing is to think about how they will support his social and emotional development. The rest really will come on its own, I promise!

dandycandyjellybean · 09/11/2008 21:30

thanks all. am feeling so much better about tomorrow now. My ds is allowed to play; that is exactly what I want for him. I have obviousy used the wrong words. Forgive me. why is everyone shooting me down in flames for wanting to make sure that someone at his nursery will be focused on making sure that he isn't passed over when it comes to stimulation and attention? I'm not saying I don't want him to play I want him to be strapped to a desk and learning; I am saying that I don't want him to be left to play by himself a lot coz there are others there who might seem to need more attention; that's all. What a terrible mother.

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oops · 09/11/2008 21:31

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TotalChaos · 09/11/2008 21:33

I imagine that the nursery staff will enjoy having a very bright, responsive inquisitive lad around, I really doubt he will be in danger of being passe over.

dandycandyjellybean · 09/11/2008 21:34

It is his social and emotional development that I'm worried about. I couldn't care less that he can tell his left from his right or whatever; I am just worried that because he is an independant, bright little chap he might be passed over in favour of those who need a lot more attention. Classic pfb, i know. And sorry, in the time it took to post last, you all seemed to ease up on me, thanks. Am just feeling very scared.

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Olihan · 09/11/2008 21:34

I am very much in the benign neglect parenting camp. I take my lead from my dcs so if they want me to play with them, read to them, talk to them, etc, I do. If they are happy playing alone/with a sibling then I get on with something else.

His preschool was a very play centred environment, they did odd bits of more formal learning but were very much guided by the children's interest. They spent a lot of time helping the children to be sociable and teaching them how to co-operate, share, sit quietly and listen, etc.

I'm also an ex teacher but like Littlefish, I deliberately did nothing 'academic' with him at home, no letters, no sounds, no writing - apart from what he asked about. He's a typically curious child - asks endless questions, quite a few of which stump me, but he seems to retain 90+% of the answers I give him.

He started in Reception in September unable to write his name, could recognise his name, knew the letter of his initial and his siblings' initials, could count to 20 and apply it to objects but that was it.

Fast forward 8 weeks and he knows all his phonic sounds, can write most of the letters, is reading the first stage reading books with ease and is just flying.

His teacher has commented on what a lovely child he is to have in the classroom, how polite, well mannered, kind, sociable, etc, etc which means far more to me in terms of his development than his acamdemic achievements.

There's no point in being bright if you are completely unable to get along with people and know how to behave socially. IMO, the best nursery would be one that places maximum importance on all those things in LittleFish's list because they are the ones that will benefit him most in life. There is plenty of time to nurture his acamdemic abilities when he goes to school.

Olihan · 09/11/2008 21:37

Your ds does sound very similar to my ds1 - I Xposted with your last couple of posts - and ime the bright, chatty ones don't get over looked because they demand the attention they want.

oops · 09/11/2008 21:37

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notnowbernard · 09/11/2008 21:38

I don't think anyone was getting at you

It is harding leaving your child at nursery

But, honestly, all you really want to be sure of at nursery level is that he is happy and secure there and comes home covered in evidence of messy play

He won't be 'passed over'... if the staff are good at their job the concern will be on whether he is settling/settled, having fun and mixing well with others. This will stand him in great stead for Reception, where the formal 'learning' starts

This is all my own experience, obv, but I share it with many other parents I know

dandycandyjellybean · 09/11/2008 21:40

did you read my post olihan? I'm not saying he's bright but can't get along with people or behave well socially; I know that is what nursery ed is all about. God a lot of people have really misunderstood what I've been trying to ask.

'His teacher has commented on what a lovely child he is to have in the classroom, how polite, well mannered, kind, sociable, etc, etc which means far more to me in terms of his development than his acamdemic achievements.' Do you really think I would rather have an academic genius who is a total arse to the world at large? It wasn't about academics vs social. It was about attention in general vs not because he is independant and copes well in general.

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Lilyloo · 09/11/2008 21:41

sexbomb that's a tough one as as good as any nuresery staff are if some children demand more attention than others then they usually get it.
My dd is quiet and quite shy unlike ds and i often think she may be 'overlooked' at times. But on watching her play at nursery she is very independant and in her own way has built relationships with the staff she feels most comfortable with for whatever reason.
I think your ds sounds lovely and i am sure if he did feel overlooked at all then he would tell you and you could tackle that at the time.
It's a tough call but when you choose the right nursery you will just get a feeling it's right for your ds!
Good luck!

dandycandyjellybean · 09/11/2008 21:42

Sorry forget it; I'm not expressing myself very well obviously, didn't want to get into a big debate. Thanks for your input and thoughts. Nightnight.

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notnowbernard · 09/11/2008 21:42

I agree with you, you need to take a break from MN

Don't ask for advice then get all arsey with people for giving it

madrose · 09/11/2008 21:43

littlefish - can you remember where you read it, woul be interesting to read.

Sexbombbikerchick my dh and i had the same conversations as you, but just watching what my daughter learnt through play taught me so much. Also I teach and my constant battle is to get kids to think for themselves - they worry so much about getting things wrong.

you just want the best for you child - we all do

Littlefish · 09/11/2008 21:43

Thanks for clarifying your concerns SBBC, because to be honest, your first post sounded like you were only concerned about the academic stuff.

In any nursery or school, there are going to be children who for one reason or another need additional support. This may be because of their additional needs, language difficulties, new baby at home, bereavement, family breakdown, late night, tummy ache, difficulty with social relationships or a million other reasons. Your ds will almost certainly of those children at some time, as will all of the others. There will also be days when he is completely happy to be left alone to get on with his own exploration. In fact, if he's found a particularly interesting muddy puddle, he might relish being left alone to get as dirty as possible and explore the volume of water which can be absorbed by one pair of socks

I think you need to just step back and stop assuming that your child is going to be passed over. Your original message really does sound like you assume that that is what's going to happen.

Lilyloo · 09/11/2008 21:45

Although he sounds very much like my ds and if he wanted attention he was confident enough to ask for it.
I think maybe you have worked yourself up about something that may not happen.
Go with your gut instinct and seeing ds in the environment.

Littlefish · 09/11/2008 21:47

Madrose, I have a feeling it was on a course, some years ago. It was being run by the educational advisors running the G&T summer schools in Worcestershire.

That's probably no help at all!

My previous message makes no sense at all - I missed some words out!

It should say

"Your ds will almost certainly be one of those children at some time, as will all of the others".

oops · 09/11/2008 22:00

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dandycandyjellybean · 09/11/2008 22:02

As I sais oops 'not expressing myself very well' using the wrong words. Sorry!

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mummyloveslucy · 09/11/2008 22:05

Definatly go with your instincts. I was the same in as much as I didn't think I could trust anyone else to look after her. When I visited my daughters school nursery dep, I felt so at ease and comfortable talking to the teachers and left feeling excited about her starting.
It's so important that you can talk to the teachers freely.
My daughter has been there for two years now and still loves it. She has wonderful manners, and is very kind and conciderate of others. She has a real sence of wonder and is enthusiastic about everything.
We couldn't ask for more.

dandycandyjellybean · 09/11/2008 22:07

Thankyou mummyloveslucy, really helpful. She sounds lovely.

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FairyMum · 09/11/2008 22:08

If the environment is happy, stimulating and loving then your child will thrive in every way.

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