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Abusive relationship and pregnancy

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Reph20 · 06/05/2022 08:47

Hey

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Wayfairtwo · 06/05/2022 08:55

Hi...Would you like to elaborate some more?

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 10:00

I’m aware this is long but PLEASE ❤️

We have been together just over a year, when we first got together last April it was very intense and fast moving, but all was good and we spent so much time together and did lovely things, but by June he had smashed my phone due to him not liking how often I was in contact with my friends ( I think as I’m 21 and he’s 38, there’s a difference with how we’ve been raised, including phones and all! ), and this incident in June did scare me as I’ve never experienced violence at a partners hand, but he pinned me against the bed n shouted into my ear n wouldn’t let me leave his room at all . I did stupidly forgive him, I think at the time I was so amazed as to how lovely he treated me ( other than this incident ) and how caring he was, how considerate cs he really can be such a lovely person ! Fast forward to august and we went away with my friend, she wanted to see a specific show and I REALLY didn’t want to 😂 but she said my partner could come and we’d make a weekend of it, she really wanted to go so we did! He drove us down n we had fun, the first night was a laugh and we did really have fun .. the second night, my friend was a bit too drunk at the show and was going round telling people at the show when we were having a fag break, how my partners an “old autistic twat” and said some rlly hurtful things about him and I told her to leave it and that I understand after the incident in June but now n here isn’t the place for this and she left it in some ways, she wasn’t allowed back into the show as she was so drunk so she ended up leaving with some guy which was fair enough! Me and my partner stayed out for a bit, and then went back to the hotel (11/12am ish), we ended up arguing about my past traumas ( grooming and abortions in particular ) and he got really agitated, and started to attack me and strangle me, said how I’m a horrible disgusting slag, how hell kill me n how I “wanted to fuck the bouncer” who worked on our hotel door, he sat on top of me, squeezed my ribs n strangled me, spat on me, held me in a headlock! When I did get away from him I grabbed my phone and called 999 and as I was saying the name of the hotel and that my boyfriend was trying to kill me , he grabbed my phone and smashed it into pieces 😥said he’s never going jail again and what not, smashed the room up and glass everywhere then he strangled me again until I passed out essentially and when I came around, he was just sat on the chair near the table in our room as if nothing had happened .. I literally ran as soon as I could, I had no hotel key so I couldn’t access the lifts and had to run through a flight of fire exit stairs and went to reception and called 999 again but someone was on the way here already, so they called my friend and I waited with staff! My partner came Down with his bags and said how I’m delusional n it was all me and I wanna sleep with the “black bouncer”, I was really distraught and on the phone to my grandad as he’s like my father and I really was so convinced I was going to die in that hotel room . When police came n took pictures, they seems confident it would go well with police / court possibly as there was CCTV and the 999 call, they took pictures of the marks on me, the state of the room / blood and glass, how i had bitten my tongue when he strangled me and what not, yet the next day when I was on the train home with my friend, police call to say that he was given NO FURTHER ACTION, which absolutely appalled me! But it happens regularly from what I understand, I just never thought it was that difficult when there was such proof ( AND he has previous for it, I didn’t know at the time ) . I stupidly did stay with him, I was very distant and cold and I eventually left him by october! We were back together by Christmas and then broken up again by a week or two into January , and then together again by end of January so was very much on and off between before Christmas and January, but when we got back together end of January I thought it was different! His attitude towards my phone usage, my friends, me going out n what not, but it quickly turned sour and he was so up and down, cold and hot towards , and usually he is the most loving, soft, caring and consistent person ( apart from the violent incidents and his paranoia, which is why I think I’ve struggled so much to accept ) .. he went away to do some music work beginning of feb and wasn’t talking much to me, and when he was it wasn’t making much sense and I got paranoid that he was cheating n what not .. when he came back, he came to my house late one night end of feb, and said he didn’t wanna continue working it out between us n was done, but he’d stay the night! I insisted that’s not fair on me or my daughter, and I’d rather him just go, I was rather upset as for 3 weeks he was adamant on us working it out and then went away and became cold so I really did want him to go but he wasn’t having any of ir ! I was laying in bed and he was sat on the side and he tried to grab my phone and said how he paid for it ( only because he’s broken 2 of my previous ones ) and that he’s taking that so I grabbed it and chucked it, didn’t cause any damage as I did just throw it to get it away from him and he went on to call me crazy n awful to turn on him when my daughters next door and when I was sat on the bed he was stood up and grabbed his shoe, slapped me across the face with it really hard , then backhanded me until I flew to the floor and he then sat on top of me, squeezed my ribs and covered my mouth and nose, spat on me, said how “possessed and evil” I am, he held me in a headlock and asked if I remember this, spat on me, strangled me again! Said how he’d go get my mum ( she lives close by as well as my bother ) and tell her how Unstable and how I can’t be here alone with my daughter, I was only in such a state cs he’d attacked me!
But so much happened in my own home that night and it was rlly awful, I did finally get him to leave my house after running downstairs n standing in my front door threatening to scream the street down!!! As I had no choice but to say that , I don’t stand a chance against him as there’s quite a size difference, let alone strength! I was in a state of shock, and I couldn’t believe he’d do this and I saw him once after this incident, we spent the night together 😥I’m not sure why, I feel rlly stupid for doing so! But he is my first proper boyfriend, the guy I was with before I’d been with for 2 years, 14 months in jail and he’s not still in prison so you can only imagine the type of relationship we had, it was barely a relationship, it was drug fuelled fun! So when I met my partner I was so amazed that someone was so considerate and loving towards me, I know I should’ve stayed gone when I did leave him :( I found out I’m pregnant in March and he went away in March, back to England where he’s from ( were in n Wales ) and I didn’t see him or hear from him really, once a week maybe? He’d email , his phone was off at all times, and he ended up going to a monastery for 3 weeks and with his family for 5 so he claims .. after 8 weeks of him being gone, barely any contact whilst knowing I’m pregnant, I started the abortion treatment tablets but I only took the first tablet, I couldn’t go through with it as I’ve had it before and it was awful! So I’ve booked in for a surgical abortion at the end of may now, but I’ll be 16 weeks by then💔😣 I do understand and sympathise with him, as he’s had a very chaotic life, awful upbringing and genuinely has been very challenging for him growing up, I understand he’s not well mentally and has a lot of issues, mental health related, his faith is an issue I believe as it consumes him! He talks about demons and angels, how life’s demonic and a load of stuff that sometimes doesn’t make sense to me! I’m a very spiritual person, and I believe in a lot of things and I’m very open to things, but I believe he’s just too unwell, and I’m really sad by it , as he’s so so lovely most of the time and what we had was so pure and lovely, as a couple and with my daughter ! I think is he a narcissist? Or is he mentally unstable? Is this an act with his faith an religion? I don’t know what to trust . He’s now been back locally for 2 weeks? We’ve been in contact, he doesn’t see how I could agree with an abortion which I think reflects how unwell he is? He’s unpredictable, unstable, he isn’t secure and I guess it is because he’s not well? And he doesn’t even work but claims that love is enough! I had booked a private scan for last week, just to see the baby n know it was okay after taking the first abortion tablet, and all was okay, I was going with my friend but as he was back I thought he had as much of a right as I do, and he has one daughter in her late teens, and he missed her scans, birth all of it! So I thought it would be something he’d always have, seeing the baby n he’d get a picture just like I did and the scan went okay, he was very upset but he was okay, baby was fine and healthy which broke my heart a little bit 😥but it’s a baby I wanted so much, a baby that is so loved but the circumstances feel so wrong to me .. I’ve recently made a Claire’s law application and I was given the disclosure and there were a few incidents towards women, stalking, multiple assaults, ABH ( prison for it ), harassment ! There were a few, and then I think of all 3 incidents I experienced, I only reported 1? I feel very conflicted, I’m a good mother and I have all the right support, I have a job and I’m very close to passing my driving test, I have my little house and I just feel gutted to have to do this, again? I’ve had an abortion at 16 and at 19, I know I’m stupid and at fault with contraception but pls, I don’t want a lecture, I really just need someone to talk to .. some advice, I feel disgusted to have an abortion at 16 weeks? The baby can hear me, knows my voice 😥I’m so sorry for all of this; thank you very much to whoever reads this all and responds! ❤️

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BHX3000 · 06/05/2022 10:15

Oh darling, you've been through a lot. I will get to your baby/abortion question later, but this completely shocked me when I read it:

he’s so so lovely most of the time and what we had was so pure and lovely

Not it wasn't. He isn't lovely. He is an abuser. He is a violent, nasty man who beats up, strangles women and talks to them without any respect. That's not pure, that's not lovely, that's terrifying. You know those women and children who make the news because their partners or fathers have killed them? They too thought they had 'lovely' men by their side.

He is not lovely, he is a monster. We all have issues with our mental health sometimes, we all struggle with our beliefs and upbringings. But most people CHOOSE not to hurt others because of it. He has CHOSEN to hurt women and use all the above as an excuse.

He is not lovely. Have you had counselling to deal with your earlier traumas as you said, and to explore why you think such a relationship is normal and lovely? Because it really, really isn't.

Now, regarding the abortion. That's your choice to make and only you can decide what you want to do and what will hurt you less. But please, please, please think of your existing child and of the baby if you were to keep it.

You HAVE to stop talking to this man, seeing him, sleeping with him. You need to block him. You need to call the police every time he shows up at your door. You CANNOT speak to him again. He is an abuser. He's gone after you, what if one day he goes after your little daughter? What if one day he kills you and she is left without a mother?

I don't want to scare you, but you risk losing your child/ren if you keep seeing this man. He is UNSAFE. Children and babies should not ever be around unsafe people.

Do you have a midwife you could talk to? Someone at the doctors' office or a trusted family member? You need to ask for advice. You need to do as they say (the health professionals) and not risk losing your children because of a monster lives with them. You cannot have any further contact with this man because you're risking your life, and that of your babies.

Please leave him, stop talking to him, and ask for help. What you have described is not a normal relationship. It's an abusive one. Lovely is not someone who beats, strangles and threatens to kill women. That's a monster.

Please protect your daughter.

Wayfairtwo · 06/05/2022 10:30

First of all You are a victim and I'm sorry you had to go through all that.

I know you said you're not looking for a lecture but a lecture is what you're gonna get from me. IDK why but reading this it made my heart skip a beat. Especially the bits about the PIG sitting on you.

Its YOUR decision and YOUR decision only; if you would like to keep your baby. Don't feel useless/guilty if you choose abortion as you're not able to give this baby a stable life as they deserve. I can't imagine raising a child in that atmosphere.

Why do you keep making excuses for him? you keep saying hes sick, hes not well etc etc...What does that have to do with you? I feel like you writing this out today took a lot of strength and you really want to get out but finding it so hard. spending on where you live there are helplines that can help women like you who in such situation, please call someone now.

There are some things you should know and then ill end it here for now.

  1. Know that social services WILL take your children away if you keep this abusive man in your life.
  2. Know that this man will kill you sooner rather than later and then your children will end up in care. Is that what you want?
Shoxfordian · 06/05/2022 10:37

If you’re not already then get in contact with Womens Aid who can give you some support

Block him on your phone, on your social media, everywhere. Do not speak to him again, don’t see him; he could kill you- this is not being dramatic but the actual truth

It does sound like the abortion is a good option, focus on your daughter you have and there should be nothing connecting you to your ex - no need for him to be in your lives at all

PinkSyCo · 06/05/2022 11:06

Omg I could cry reading this. You are so young and going through so much. I am disgusted at the police not taking any further action after this thing strangled you! What a terrible message to give a young woman. They basically told you that it was acceptable for a man to seriously physically abuse you ffs! You sound so mixed up, bless you. You should not have had that scan. How will you possibly be able to go ahead with a termination now? You won’t will you? Though, and I don’t usually advise this (not my place), but in your case I really really think you should, otherwise you are going to be stuck with this monster in your life for a very very long time. Please get away from him, you deserve so much more, as does your child. Staying with this mean will mentally affect your DD and any future DCs terribly. They will probably end up being taken away from you. That’s if you’re lucky enough not to have been killed by this maniac first. Sad

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 11:13

Sorry I must add, I haven’t slept with him, or seen or spent anytime with him since the end of feb , apart from going to the scan and I met him in a public place and didn’t spend any time with him after it .

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Reph20 · 06/05/2022 11:16

He doesn’t live with me either sorry! It wasn’t accurate .. I do get it, he’s a complete danger but I guess I’ve been blinded by how nice I thought he was 😣in really sorry

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Wayfairtwo · 06/05/2022 11:17

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 11:13

Sorry I must add, I haven’t slept with him, or seen or spent anytime with him since the end of feb , apart from going to the scan and I met him in a public place and didn’t spend any time with him after it .

You shouldn't be spending anytime with him at all love; public or private. You need to remove him from your life completely.

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 11:22

I already have a support worker in my life from when I was young, and as I’m not actually with him and haven’t been since he went away really . We are in contact but yeah

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jeaux90 · 06/05/2022 11:30

What you do about your pregnancy is really personal and up to you. I can totally understand considering an abortion. I say that because being tied to this abusive and violent man for life is a very serious part of the consideration.

(I say that with experience)

Another consideration is of course adoption, if you feel unable to abort but also feel unable to be a parent at this point in your life.

Please please don't have any more contact with this man. The violent person is who he really is. The nice part is an act to pull you in.

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 11:35

Social would be involved if I got back with him / he was back in mine , I just feel disgusted to have an abortion at 16 weeks 😣

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Reph20 · 06/05/2022 12:03

What you’re saying is completely true 😣I feel like it’s easier to believe he’s unwell n that’s why he is this way, but I’m not stupid n I do know if I guess . When I was 9 weeks pregnant I took the first mifepristone abortion tablet and then I couldn’t continue with the treatment, I really struggled to have an abortion so I’m hoping if I get it done medically, I’ll be okay . I have it booked for rhe end of this month, I do completely acknowledge he isn’t safe to be around full stop, my support worker says she supports me either way but as long as I don’t go back to him, I just feel disgusted to have an abortion so late :( I feel like I fucked up, I let myself down by not taking the tablets when it was earlier, I feel so torn .. I know I shouldn’t be with him, and I know it’s a major risk but I still want to see him :( I want to but I haven’t and won’t, I’m just struggling I’m sorry

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Reph20 · 06/05/2022 12:07

I know I have to go ahead with it, even tho it’s not what I want 😣my daughter will be starting full time school in September, I have a job, my own home, I am so close to passing my driving test, I have my family and friends, I have my support worker and other agencies helping me, if it was just my baby, I would 1000% continue the pregnancy 💔it’s just sad that he’s the father .. I wish I hadn’t of got into this mess , we’re not even together but he’s adamant on not
Giving up, how I’m a baby killer if I go through with it :( how I’m a shit mum, I went out to a friend last week and he was saying how I need to think about beinf a woman and a mother, I’ve blocked him this morning and I’m just worried as to what he’s gonna be like, how he’ll react :( I’m so sorry

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Reph20 · 06/05/2022 12:11

I’m repeating a lot of the same
thinfs I’ve already said, I’m sorry! Just so comfused

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Wayfairtwo · 06/05/2022 12:14

Its OK...Just vent if you need to.

How's your daughter doing? Has this whole thing been affecting her as well? If you don't mind sharing, how old is she?

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 12:23

Thank you ❤️ she was a bit confused as to why I was so upset the first few weeks and why my mum was here a lot to help out, but I’ve explained how my belly isn’t well atm; and that my partner isn’t coming back here again, and she’s accepted it and is still thriving in school and her routines still good ! We’re both still doing what we do together, as we have such a good relationship between us and she does ask for him sometimes but it’s easily brushed off . She only just turned 4 at the end of March . Thank you very much for this conversation, it really does mean a lot! I haven’t got the best mental health myself as it is, with things that have happened in my past so I kept doubting friends and family, thinking they were just against my partner and that he was just unwell but unwell or not, it’s not excuse n I know it😣and I see it’s all him now, I knew it was all him and never them .. I just needed someone who doesn’t know either of us, to have a say

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Reph20 · 06/05/2022 12:27

And I’m starting to think he’s not even that unwell, he’s so calculated n clever with what he does and how he presents himself to others, when we’re out he’s always so charming to both men and women, I’m starting to believe it’s more of an act than it is of a genuine illness? He’s probably just a fk narcissist n I fell for it cs I was a dumb traumatised 20 year old hahahah 😆 I feel manic, I feel so lost!

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LittleOwl153 · 06/05/2022 12:36

Is there any chance you can get this abortion earlier? I feel the sooner it is resolved the better for you.

Is it possible for you to move away? Fresh start and all that? I don't know what your housing situation is but could you seek a swap? (If you are in social housing don't give that up you and your daughter need that stability). Your daughter is young to move before she starts school is ideal. You'll get to know new people through her who will help you start again.

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 12:45

I’ve lived in north Wales all my life, my career is here and my family 😣 I did have the abortion tablets sent to me and I was meant to take them but I can’t get anything sooner now .. I am in social housing yes, it’s a really nice house and I’ve put a lot of work and money into it, only been here a year and I’m in the same street as my mum in a really quiet village by the sea, I’ve lived here since I was 3 really and I’m not ready to move :( if I passed my test I would consider, but here is my home .. he’s from kent so I’m hoping hw goes back or moves soon enough, he moves about often by the looks of his criminal record and this happens everywhere he goes .

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BHX3000 · 06/05/2022 12:49

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 12:27

And I’m starting to think he’s not even that unwell, he’s so calculated n clever with what he does and how he presents himself to others, when we’re out he’s always so charming to both men and women, I’m starting to believe it’s more of an act than it is of a genuine illness? He’s probably just a fk narcissist n I fell for it cs I was a dumb traumatised 20 year old hahahah 😆 I feel manic, I feel so lost!

You’re a clever woman, OP, you’ve been able to see this. Of course it’s an act and it’s manipulative. He knows what he does is wrong, yet he still chooses to do it.

Don’t apologise to us, this is NOT your fault ❤️ Vent as much as you need to. I think you’re a good mother and love your daughter so I just hope you put her first from now on. No more contact with him. If he kicks off, call 999. As many times as necessary. Tell your support worker. Tell anyone who can be trusted, especially professionals.

It’s very common that victims are drawn back to their abusers, because love and relationships have different meanings for you due to many other factors.

But please don’t give in to the urge to contact him anymore. Perhaps it would help if you posted on here i feel the need to speak to him or see him again? I’m sure we’ll all be more than happy to encourage you to stand your ground.

Reph20 · 06/05/2022 12:54

Yes exactly! A man at the wise old age of 38 should know better :( thank you! I feel like my grandad said I’m not stupid so he doesn’t understand why all the confusion so that’s played on my mind, as I’m not so why am I so confused . I definitely will continue putting her first as she’s my priority and getting better ❤️ today’s the first day I’ve blocked him so I hope I stick to it, I’m gonna see a friend later on and just try and enjoy myself and have spoke. To support worker this morning :) that’s a really good suggestion to post on here when I feel like doing that, so I will deffo do it! Thank you very much 🙏 this has massively helped me and I wasn’t sure if it was right to post but I’m glad I did .

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Reph20 · 06/05/2022 13:01

I feel selfish for wanting a child that would be fatherless, that would have an absent, unstable father when I have one child who sees her father and her fathers family, she goes for the weekend one week and a night the other week and I’d have a child with no father at all, I think it’s really unfair to do that 😥even though I’m a perfectly good mother, I’ve had my fair share of problems but I am a dedicated mother and I love my little girl so much and she has everything she needs, I get no support financially from her father ( unless I ask his mum to order school shoes or uniform ) but 80% of the time, I do it myself and I could do that for this child 😣I just wish it was my baby and my baby only .. which is very selfish

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KimMumsnet · 06/05/2022 13:11

Hi, OP. We're going to move your thread to our Pregnancy Choices board now as we hope you'll get some good support there.
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Knittingchamp · 06/05/2022 13:17

He's a psychopath OP, you must try to get a permanent restraining order against him, and if you do go ahead with the pregnancy, make sure he has no involvement whatsoever. Please do not ever engage with him again if at all possible as he is an extreme manipulator. And it is frightening to imagine your little girl anywhere remotely near him.

Trauma bonding makes you want to still see him but here's what you do: every time you feel that way, imagine him doing to your child what he did to you, as the terrible fact is, that is what you are opening the door to any time you see him again.

Good luck with everything and I'm so sorry for what you went through. It's heartbreaking to read what you're having to deal with.