ANyone seriously contemplated or had a termination due to awful hyperemisis?

[nickytwotimes]

Please do not have a go at me.
I am looking for a bit of support tbh. I am totally unable to function atm and spend most days unable to get my head off the pillow.
I am seriously feeling unable to go on with this pregnancy especially not knowing when / if it will go or not.

no experience, but sending you a (((hug)))
my best mate did have it when she was carrying her twins boys, she went through absolute hell. How far are you?

So sorry you're going through this. I don't have direct experience but I do know how very bad it can be from friends. Sorry if this is a stupid question but are you getting all the medical treatment and support you can? It is possible to get checked into hospital if necessary (though I know that involves a lot of other support too if you already have DC).

Even with my own far less serious MS, the thought you are talking about did cross my mind so I do not blame you at all for thinking it. However, with the support you need, you may be able to get through this.

Someone who knows more than me will be along soon.

Thanks giggle.
nine weeks.
It's only one - I was scanned when n hospital for rehydration.

It is shit isn't it . I had it bad for 4 weeks and was on anti-sickness pills for it so I could keep some food down. I got really depressed and started thinking there was something wrong with me but looking back it was the combination of not being able to eat and being so bloody ill that was messing my head up.

Have you been to your doctor? And do you have help so you can rest a bit?

Ta Madam.
My family are very supportive and caring for ds most of the time. Dh is looking after me too. I jusy cannot face feeling so awful any longer. My very helpful mw is off atm until later this week. I am hoping she might help a bit.

Yes, meg, it does mess with your head.
Atm I absolutely hate this baby and do not eant it. I feel I have been taken hostage. I am on meds but they do little. I can keep a bit down, but my body is ketonic, I know that. I am starving, but can't eat.

I had daily sickness for the first three months with ds1, but not like you describe - that was horrible enough, I can only imagine how dreadful it must be to be where you are Really feel for you.
Hope someone who knows something more will wander in soon.

Yes, giggle, 'normal' sickness is awful enough. I had that last time. Still remember it too.

I would go back to the doctor and see if you actually need to be hospitalised and on a drip for nutrition. Tell them what you have said here - that you literally cannot bear to feel like this and have been thinking about a termination. I sometimes think doctors don't really take in that you feel unbearable until you hammer it home (because they are used to listening to people moaning about minor ailments all day long). Tell then they have to do something more because you are desperate.

Going to have to go now as looking at the screen is making me green again.
I will look in tomorrow.

Thanks for the support ladies.

that sounds like good advice madame

I will Madame. Thanks.
A lot of people really don't 'get' it.
Night for now.

Aw nickytwotimes

I'e got MS (am 9 weeks too) and at times feel at the end of my tether with it - so I can't imagine how you must feel. That awful cycle of nausea, the thought of food making you more nauseous, then trying to eat and eventually chucking it all up is soo frustrating. And you have this a million times worse

Just sending you my support. I hope it subsided soon

You poor thing, I had hyperemesis both pregnancies with my forst it was unfortunately until the birth and i found the medications useless so just yo-yoed in and out of hospital for drips

It was hard, especially as i was on antenatal ward but on most admissions seemed to get put in the last bay where mums with babies who had been in scbu stayed with there babies before being allowed home together, so i was being woken at night by babies crying then getting in a state as i still had months to go

But tbh until i started writing i had blocked most of it out, you can get over it

second pregnancy i had a toddler so i had to control it better, i was going to recommend the 'blooming awful website' but it appears to have gone maybe if anyone else sees it they can link, or could you contact the nct, i know my branch has a hg contact listed in directory (something i found out too late)

Do you have any cravings? I lived off avocadoes for 6 mo, literally 4/5 a day and maybe a piece of toast or sometimes nothing else. That was my craving which is so odd as pre preg i hated avocadoes....and dd loved them from weaning

Yes I did and it was only knowing how badly a termination would affect me psycologically afterwards that stopped me. My GP was great and I asked to be refered to a CPN as I was very depressed, had to literally make sure I was locked in the house as felt like walking (or crawling) to the nearest main road and waiting for the next bus to throw myself under. I was like this until about 20 weeks but needed the CPN for much longer as felt very guilty about my feelings at the start of my pregnancy. I hope you start to feel better soon, try to vent as much as possible, it doesn't take the nausea and vomiting away but does help. Accupuncture can be very effective at combating nausea and vomiting.

have you been given anti sickness drugs at all?

i was on them when pregnant with dd3. i had HG with all 4 pregnancies and hated it.

i was the same as u from about 5 weeks until 16 weeks! its hell and i seriously did think about having a termination, more than once! luckily i have a great family to support me but my relationship with babys dad ended as he couldnt get over how ill i was and put it down to me being a 'drama queen'. i agree the worst thing is not knowing when it will stop but it does get better. i actually told my mum i wanted to die a few times because evrymorning i would wake up feeling like i was about to anyway. i went in hospital on a drip 6 times and after the last i have been a lot better, still feel very sick somedays but nothing compared to what it did. maybe u need to go back to ur gp and put your foot down or talk to ur midwife and have ur urine checked. big hugs to u xx

{{{BirthdayTwin}}}

Do you feel you could contemplate a termination because you just see yourself as pregnant, rather than carrying a new and very much wanted baby?

Try and keep focusing on the end product. A lovely new gorgeous smelling bundle of joy. I know it's hard, but sometimes it can be a way of coping with a hard time.

Why don't you speak to your GP? Won't it be them rather than your MW who will prescribe? Maybe there is more than one type of medication?

Ah - I hope things improve for you soon.

In answer to your question, yes...if anyone had outright offered me a termination after being bed-ridden for 6 weeks with hyperemesis, then I would have sobbed with relief (dehydration aside).

It's the absolute worst I have ever felt - unable to sit up without vomiting...even DH sitting on the other side of the bed made me nauseous. The depression it causes is unbearable, and I didn't have any other children to worry about.

The only thing that helped me was Zofran - if you're not already taking it then ask your doctor about it.

Good luck!

Aha! here is the support group website which should hopefully have something in there that might ease it a bit for you, though it does become a case of trying it all

And do feel free to come and offload on here if it helps, will keep an eye out for you now

Aw you poor thing.
FWIW people do terminate.

I was once on a gynae ward next to a woman with it. She decided while she was there to terminate. At visiting time I heard as she explained to her older children how nothing could be done and the baby was already dead. It was heartbreaking.

My heart does go out to you. I wish I could offer some good advice. People I know who've had it say it does get better.

SO sorry to read this nicky. I had HE both times. With DS1 I actually rang the surgery to book a termination - it was at this point that they started to take me seriously wrt enti-emetics.

It is unutterably horrible and v difficult for those without experience to understand I think.

You poor thing. I know exactly how you feel. I was in hospital four times during my last pregnancy, and on many different kinds of medication. In the end, I found that it I managaged to keep myself hydrated I could stay out of hospital. As soon as I slipped into dehydation because of the sickness it was a vicious circle and I ended up in hospital. I did this by drinking Dioralyte - sometimes 4-6 sachets a day. (I got in on prescription) For me, concentrating on keeping this fluid down and forgetting about food made all the difference. (I did have a lot of body fat to keep me going though )

I really do sympathise with you. I had to go through it, and was not happy about the pregnancy in the first place, and had a toddler to run about after too. It really does get better though, and it was all worth it when my lovely baby was born.

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I have had two hyperemesis pregnancies. With my eldest son, I vomited from about 6 weeks to around 13 weeks. I was hospitalised once for rehydration, and had to use stemetil suppositories (tablets wouldn't stay down). I lived off of flat coke. With my second pregnancy, the vomiting started at 6 weeks and continued up until 16 weeks. I was hospitalised twice, came very close to renal failure and as a last ditch effort was given odanestron. Luckily, it stopped it in it's tracks.

I will never, ever forget the sheer hell of being trapped in my own body. The horror of feeling the earth move beneath me, or the horrendous hyper sensitivity to all smells. I remember hating the foetus, despising all the 'blooming' pregnant women around me, and at it's worst just wanted to die. The physical affects of hyperemesis are well documented, but there is precious little help for the psychological affects. I tearfully asked my parents and my DH if they would hate me for terminating DS2. I was about 11 weeks at the time. All I could see in front of me were a long unbroken chain of vomiting episodes. I even threw up in my sleep. In the 24 hours before the odanestron was administered, I was sick every half an hour, even while asleep. I was bringing up blood from the ruptured blood vessels in my throat.

The reason I'm telling you this is because I want you to know I have been where you are, and I know how hopeless it all seems. But (and it is the most huge, enormous, colossal 'but' ever) I did get through it. I now have two boisterous, amazing, funny sons. It was worth every single episode, every bleed, every injection, every dark moment. I am not in any way telling you what to do. All I know is, that when you feel so completely alone, you long to just feel normal again. If you do decide to terminate, I certainly wouldn't blame you. I got through it by not looking ahead, trying to focus on one hour at a time, and not thinking about babies at all. I thought of it as an illness, not pregnancy. That way, when I was better, I could still feel excited about the baby.

Gah, not sure if any of that was helpful, it's just that I read your post as a plea for someone to understand how horrendous it is, and I do.

Definitely.

It was the worst time

this forum saved my life, and my beautiful dd's. MN is fab but ladies who have been there and can suggest different drugs and strategies help a lot.

I only have one for this reason.
Hang in there if you can.
And know you and you unborn child are much loved when you feel you cannot.