40's + Mums and Mums to Be.

[johnworf]

Hello, good evening, and welcome. Our ovaries are tired and withered but we've still managed it despite what the Daily Mail says!

Come on in for a gossip, cake, parenting tips and the nonstop drivel interesting chat.

Newbies welcome :-)

Just quick note before I go crash for most of the afternoon (bliss of having a DH who is a teacher and can work from home during the summer marking!!)...HV thinks C&G 2 a bad idea. He's just too little. Better to keep giving him C&G 1 and up the amount if necessary!

Other than that, she thinks he's doing smashing!

Snooooooooooozeeeee

Glad to hear that your spoke to her. See how he goes then

not a happy note today - GTT test this morning says I have gestational diabetes so there goes all my choices re natural birth, not to mention new worries about possible harm to baby. Can't bear to look for any info today - what the MW told me is bad enough to be going on with

bellatrixiata Awww - I'm sorry to hear that - but I think that you'll find LOADS of support on here...as there are a few ladies who I know can share their experiences. Am I right - oh GDD gurus? I'm sure they'll be along to reassure you VERY Soon! And that means NO googling in the meantime!! xxx

tee good to hear you saw HV - hope you got some sleep!

It's wet, wet, wet in here. Who's crazy idea was it to let the girls bath their dolls in washing up bowls - on the floor??? FOOL!

Bet your girls had great fun bathing dollies JJ. Surely their happy smiling faces make the mopping up easy?!

bellatrixiata wise words from JJ, I'm sure some experts will tell you more about their experiences soon. And although it's a shame you can't have a home birth, things might work out more straightforwardly than you fear... and in any case, best that they find out about it now and give you and LO the care you need. Courage!

No time for proper catch-up - DD's school show tonight so just giving her and DS1 their tea before DH arrives to ferry us all off. All this talk of swine flu has made me worry about whether Arthur and I should go, but DD has a singing part and is desperate for me to see her, and I have to take the baby out to school pick-up etc. so will just avoid anybody coughing and sneezing. I'm finding that most coughing and sneezing people avoid babies automatically thankfully - I have 2 friends who have called to croak their congratulations but are waiting to get over nasty colds before visiting us).

And when we return and get the older 2 to bed, it's sirloin steak and wolf blass cab sauv for us .

bella first of all, don't panic. I have had Type II diabetes for about 3 years and just gave birth to a perfectly healthy little boy just over a month ago.

I controlled with just diet until I became pregnant, and then was put on insulin for the duration. A few hours after giving birth, I stopped my insulin and my numbers have been fine ever since.

My number one piece of advice is to ask to be put on insulin right away. Its all well and good for the docs to say 'oh, you can control it with diet' but it is much harder to do that way, and usually winds up with a very hungry mummy. Insulin is not scary. The needles do not hurt at all, even testing your blood is very low level of pain, if any at all.

Please feel free to ask me any questions you may have and/or to email me at tee AT leyser DOT org (usual format) if you want to discuss off board.

As for natural birth, it does not end all your choices. True, no home birth, but my OB, at least, was entertaining the idea of me going to term and natural right up to the end of my pregnancy when everything started to go to hell. So long as you get your diabetes under control ASAP, you could still give birth naturally. It does happen for diabetic mummies, I promise it does!

Evenin' all.

Turned out nice again here

We've had a girly afternoon just driving around. And I bought a couple of things...and took DD#1 to the GP (again), who told her exactly the same thing as I told her All is well now....and breathe out...

DSS is having a nice time off school and not complained once. Strange that eh?

tee glad you got things sorted with HV.

JJ Now let me see...dollies, washing up bowl, water...I see a pattern emerging. Is the missing word 'A&E'?

bella I had GDD from 16 weeks. It's not a big deal honestly. You'll just spend a lot more time at the antenatal clinic when you're there

ermintrude enjoy your cow and grapes. I wouldn't worry about piggy flu and taking baby out. I think it's the people who already have health problems that are the ones that need to keep inside.

I'm getting a parcel of nappies tomorrow and I'm rather excited. In a seperate parcel I'm getting a wool wrap to try out. Oh joy! I just know I won't sleep tonight

Headlines today: my b'day present arrived. I have so far been a cow to DH and told him to send it back as it's 51 weeks too early. I may relent later when the LO's are asleep. Mani/pedi tomorrow. Postponed due to DD#1 being ill so treats tomorrow. Woooppeeeeeee!

GO ON THEN!!!! What the HELL WAS IT????

Yes! Yes! what was it??????

Sports day was nice and I was told by one of the TAs that here mum thought O was the cutest babay in the village

Absolute chaos here tonight, DH and I are feeling all washed out, we must have a nice early night.

It's this

Having a mare here tonight. Found out from another mum that DSS has been 'pushed around' by one of the boys in his class for some time now. Also the boys at cubs have all been ignoring him and making him sit on his own I know he's sometimes not one of the boys (due to his Aspergers) but this is wrong. I feel so sad for him tonight

hedgepig you're suprised that O is the cutest baby in the village? Why????!

I'm not supries but do realise I am a bit biased .

JW that actually looks quite nice, my neck is killing me so please let me know if it works.

JW it isn't the worse prezzie ever. But it certainly isn't the best either. What is it with DH's and bad gifts?!?!

And your poor DSS. Kids are so mean to anyone they see as 'different'.

BTW, that winding trick seems to be working, thanks for the tip!

hedgepig there was doubt about O being the cutest?

bella sorry to hear you got GD. i had it when i went for test at 29 weeks. i controlled it by eating low GI foods and taking meformin. i was seeing a consultant every couple of weeks. and also my baby was being scanned every couple of weeks. he was born by c section at 38 weeks. i had c section because i chose to. i had section with DS1 as well. he was born healthy and did not need insulin or anything. though they did do his blood sugar straightaway.

try not worry. it is common, esp for us older mums. my GD went away after baby was born.

jw well, it is a practical pressie. hope it works!

also ur poor DSS what can you say to him?

jw ... a thoughtful present but hardly worth the wait. Poor DSS - kids are VILE! I'd HIGHLY recommend this book BulliesBigmouthsandsocalled_friends a really good guide to dealing with not just the bullies but people who put you down. I cried when I read it and wished someone had given it to me at school. I've bought it for all my friends with children over 6. My niece's (she's 11) is completely thumbed and she says it is great.

hedgepig ahhh at O.

bella - bugger about the GD but hopefully you'll see it's not the end of the world.

I'm sure this baby is lying transverse this evening. Midwife said baby wasn't at all engaged at my appointment and asked if it went sideways at all. I said o"h yes loads". She said to phone triage if it goes transverse again as there's a risk of cord prolapse if my waters go. Am I being really pathetic to not bother and want to just curl up on the settee and snooze?

bonzo thanks for the link. I'm going to order it tonight when I get through all the washing with cattargh/milky sick on it. Yep, she did it again ...but in the car this time. Crikey, I'm gonna need a degree in engineering to get the car seat cover back on

I do feel sorry for him but kids can be so bloody cruel at times. We can't be there each time he goes to school so hopefully the book will give him a few pointers

DH bought the massager for my neck. Remember I had a bad neck a few months back? Well it's back again so will give it a go and see if it makes any difference. If not, then I need to see a physio.

bonzo I'd be really worried if the MW had said that to me (about the cord prolapse etc). I'd be awake! Every night until it was born I worry too much though.

tee glad that A fell for the old winding trick..shhhh don't tell him we fooled him though

JW It's a great deal better than a set of scissors of varying sizes (never-to-be-mentioned ultimate Bad Gift from FH many moons ago), altho why it couldn't have been supplemented wit6h a little something on the day is one of those things which make men so - ummm = mysterious...

Sorry to hear about DSS . Hope teacher/Akela are helpful tho sounds like they should have noticed already..

bonzo my LO was often partially transverse till around 34-36 wks but assumed pole position in time. There was just too much room in there .

That book sounds good - masy order it for DD, who has one or two terribly mean and manipulative 'friends'.

1-handed typing sorry for tyois i mean typos..

Right, ordered the book Hopefully he'll enjoy it and take something from it...to school, with luck

I did think about Akela noticing but obviously not. Or maybe thinks boys will be boys and leave them to it...no idea. I think things go on in the playground and not always noticed. Especially with boys who are bit rough and tumble anyway.

I would have liked the scissors in varying sizes. I bought myself a set not long ago. My kids think I'm barking mad but I really do like them. I can see the good deed that DH was trying to do with the massager but didn't quite pull it off. Not arsed about it now.

bonzo I thought you were around the 37-38 week mark? Surely you can't have much room to play with in there???

evening all

broadband down all night again here.

everyone's gone to bed

oh well

/shuffles off to bed

morning, O slept 'til 6 ....that's it really

Morning all.

hedgepig brilliant news. Tell the wee boy he needs to keep it up

Tried out my neck massager last night and I guess it makes a difference. Fell asleep on it.

You got a gremlin in your machine mrsb? tee did you get any sleep last night?

Bella I got GD at about 32 wks...managed it with diet no probs, they wouldnt have induced 2 wks early if my bp hadnt gone sky high too...natural delivery, 7lb 13oz... and all signs of Gd gone immediately after birth. Try not to worry, worst thing for me was, after all the food restrictions of pregnancy (all my fave foods), to then have my few treats (chocolate especially) taken from me too ... but it is a small price to pay and for a very short time
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JW. So sorry for dss ... kids can be such nasty creatures en masse Hard to believe when you know the size of me but I endured several years of bullying at school, it was the pits, I'm glad you can at least give him a book to hopefully help him cope, I just got the "sticks and stones .." adage quoted at me
At least Dh tried to get something that might be useful for you ... I just think men are a bit rubbish in general when it comes to gifts...my Dad wanted to get me a microwave for my 21st (I passed in favour of a ring) and actually got me a garden spade and fork for Christmas one year when I didnt even have a garden! ... oh, and drove my automobile phobic Mum to tears on one christmas morning after buying her a course of 20 driving lessons!

JW wow! it works! fabulous!

MrsB Well done O...we were up 15 mins before you, but to tell the truth Iwas actually relieved .. after 2 reasonably time wake ups Dh was beginning to think that I had fibbed about all the 5.00 starts to make him feel guilty about enjoying himself in SA

floria love your diplomacy. I said to DH last night that kids can be 'little bastards'. I guess we mean the same thing