Anyone else with hyperemesis atm and want to hold hands/hair?

[Flamesparrow]

Feeling low, pissed off and crap.

Had it with DD, DS was just feeling sick so thought I had cracked it with stopping milk, but this time we're back in full swing.

It kicked in properly at about 8 weeks with me holding down nothing for 24hr and going for injection. I am now on tablets twice a day which make it so I can function (I am still being sick most days, but I can care for my children iyswim).

I am one of the lucky ones. My body takes a lot to become dehydrated so no hospital and drips as of yet.

Today seems to be a full force day.

I hate it. I am not sure if I hate the sickness the most, or the people who are clearly now looking at me like I am just useless because of "a bit of sickness" rather than people who have been through this completely drained exhausting thing.

So, anyone out there want to come moan together?

Yes, would love to.
I am so bored with mine. Cyclizine keeps it under control so I don't vomit more than a few times a day IF I rest, but I still have severe nausea almost all the time and retch or throw up if I attempt the slightest physical activity or even TALK much. Hyperptyalism so I am always having to spit out masses of saliva because if I swallow it I'm sick. I'm 14 weeks now, been like this for 7 or 8.

Sorry to hear you're feeling crap. How far on are you? When did it stop before?

Ooh I am so grateful I don't have the masses of saliva!!

I am worse today because I stupidly did lots this week (but it was good).

I'm 14 weeks tomorrow (hang on, just realised I missed an announcement for you ), it stopped about 30 weeks last time

Not really joining you, as mine never got so severe, but at 22 weeks I'm still feeling sick (and have been since 3 weeks). Reached my peak at around 8 weeks. I did find that acupuncture took the edge off - maybe it's worth a try?

Oh no 30 weeks is not fair! Mine stopped at about 20ish the first time, 14 the second but I don't feel like it's about to stop unfortunately!
Well done for still looking after your children. I am off work and mostly sit on a sofa being useless. The children go to nursery full time but dh is doing most of the morning and evening stuff.

I am trying to organise a lot of activities out of the house so that I can ignore them whilst they play with other children . DH is taking over when he gets in. I feel sorry for him

It will stop before 30 weeks. I am not spending the whole of my final pregnancy miserable.

I get the occasional good day when I get dressed up and enjoy my bump etc - tis good

Acupuncture sounds worth a shot

Mmm taking them out of the house sounds very sensible. Do you do much public vomiting? I don't mind throwing up in public so much but I hate people seeing me spit!

I have had to do it by the car once. Thankfully thought I tend to have a fairly good early sense so can get to a toilet somewhere. The staff at school know me well so don't mind me running in yelling "toilet!!"

LOL! I tend to do it at bus stops.

Funniest thing is when I have to race dd up the stairs to the loo - she is currently at a stage where she's obsessed with getting everywhere first so she can say 'I won!'

DS (2) is hilarious - he's always thrusting random receptacles under my nose and saying helpfully 'Be sick Mummy?'

DS wants to "watch", as does the bloody cat

Mine's FINALLY tailing off a bit at 21 weeks, and it seemed to get worse in the 2nd trimester. Got SO annoyed with people telling me, 'once you hit 12/14 weeks, it will go away'. No. It didn't. It got much worse. I will punch the next person who suggests ginger biscuits.

Who else wees themselves when they vomit? I am now a Tena Lady thanks to this development!

Barfing in public....yes, outside a dog shelter, in the Trafford Centre Car Park, Pizza Hut toilets, and frequently got DH to pull over so I could open door and puke. And once in the park.

I try to go for the toilet most of the time, but if downstairs and SPD being particularly bad, I'll do it in the kitchen bin. Happens in the sink or shower a lot too.

Seems to happen more if I'm not allowed to wake up 'naturally' and lie there for a good half hour. If I wake up with an alarm or have to get straight out of bed, I puke.

Is this your first time YanknCock?

Yup, I wee myself when I throw up first thing in the morning. Until a couple of weeks ago I was waking up in the night wanting to go to the loo but not daring because if I got up in the night I was sick.

When I was pg with ds, dd (who was just under 1) thought me being sick was hilarious - she would stand by the toilet and giggle merrily. Which I quite liked because it meant that a. I knew she was safe and b. she wasn't upset by it.
DS suddenly got very cross in the middle the other day - 'No mummy, don't do that!' Mostly they're sympathetic.

yep, first time, and proclaiming loudly 'this will be my ONLY time!'

I understand there's this amnesia thing, but just can't quite believe I'd forget how rotten this has been.

I never had a problem with my pelvic floor before, and then when I was pregnant (only a few days) I got a really bad chest infection/flu thing. I was coughing so hard I couldn't breathe and had a sore back/ribs, and after a few days of that I was weeing myself when I coughed. It got better when the cough subsided (after 4 weeks), and I had a couple weeks break before the vomiting started.

And now baby is starting to riverdance on my bladder. Cannot imagine what this will be like in a few months time!

Only done the weeing a couple of times.

I genuinely thought that DD was dairy related (it stopped when I cut out dairy, and dairy DOES make it worse but not cause it iyswim), so when my pg with DS was so much easier, I thought I had cracked it.

In all honesty, had I known I would feel like this, I am not sure I would have had a third. I feel like I am letting down the two children already here

I partly had amnesia but I think it was partly that I persuaded myself I wasn't going to have it again.
After dd I checked out the stats on how likely I was to have it again, and it was about a 66% likelihood ie a one in 3 chance of not having it, which seemed worth a shot. I did have it, but not as badly.
This time round, because so many people have HG worse than me (I've never had to be admitted hospital with it) and because there are always people around you who think it is just a bit of sickness and you are just being a wimp, I'd kind of persuaded myself that I was just being a wimp and vowed I wouldn't be such a wimp this time
It was only once it hit that I realised I'd been in a state of complete denial

I've thought seriously about termination. Having 3 months off now is just about going to wreck my career (I had a book deadline and other important work stuff), but luckily dh is supportive. The dcs don't suffer much because he fills in for me so much with them. It's hard on him though.

Hello Flame Hugs-i'm sorry you are feeling so bad

Mine has got better in the last couple of weeks (16+5 today) but i'm still being sick most days (or almost being sick-it's something I've always had issues with so am quite good at REALLY holding it in)

Acupucture has really been helping me-give it a go

I was sick til about 24wks with dd but not as bad as I've been this time.

I too feel so sorry for my dp. He has had to do so much over the last few months. I can't do washing up at all (I think it is connected with me still not being able to put any water in my mouth) have only just started venturing into the kitchen-this is still hard.

Sod what everyone else thinks. No one else knows how you are feeling and if they are thinking bad things $%&@ 'em. I've felt so bad and guilty as i'm sure most people think i'm milking it. IF ONLY. I hate feeling so utterly rough. Not being able to drink so i'm always thirsty, not being able to eat (which i'm really missing-chocolate is very bad-have tried several times over easter=not good)

God really need to go and get dd to bed-I just wanted to say that even though I'm not as bad as you (haven't taken any pills for a few days now) I know how you feel I really really hope you start to feel better very soon-it is shit. YOU WILL NOT BE ILL TIL 30wks!!!!! Give acupucture a go.

x x x

where are you going for acupuncture, and how much? (not ignoring everything else, just rushing past during dinner cooking - which I feel well enough to cook - woohoo )

Kathy -,I've been exactly the same as you since week 6 (am now 18+5) the sickness has tailed off now (although I hate typing this incase I jinx myself)apart from the odd random vomits, but I also have hyperptyalism (sp?) and it is really grim as well, as you said it's ok vomming in public, but the spitting is awkward. for you with thoughts of termination, I think that self preservation kicks in when you dont feel that you can take any more, its so hard x x I've was off work from Jan 26th til yesterday and just sat on sofa, if I could get there, or stayed curled up in a ball in bed. Have read from other threads and accupuncture seems to have quite positive effects. I also found strawberry complan before bed helped, and it gets vitamins and stuff in you that you and bubs need x x You wont have it til 30 weeks, my mum had it REALLY bad with my brother, and that tailed off at 22 weeks so there is a light ahead. Take care.

for thoughts of termination and your work Kathy. I am lucky that I work for myself and it is just that orders take slightly longer to be sent out (my length of time posting has always been exaggerated on the site, so although it is longer to me, it is still within timeframe most of the time).

I think that our DH/DPs need a medal for most of what they put up with! I know it is their child too, but it must be rough

I was signed off work for ages with DD, it meant I could just sleep through most of it, but dude is less co-operative with that! Although to be fair to him - he is now 3 and still has a sleep for at least an hour most afternoons

Kathy, I thought about termination too. Was so despairing, I just felt like I couldn't cope--but recognised that I couldn't live with myself afterward. I have PCOS and I've been through 3 years of trying to get pregnant, 2 different husbands, and 1 miscarriage.

Very much a case of 'be careful what you wish for' for me!

The midwife actually asked me if I'd considered a termination---and I was quite offended. She didn't even have my notes and had never met me.

I've been signed off work since January for a combination of hyperemesis/SPD/ante-natal depression. Doubting I'll end up going back before 29 weeks so just going to start my maternity leave as early as possible.

I'm so sorry to hear peoples thoughts of termination I have only got to the point of being very depressed about being pg-and thinking 'why did i want it so much when i knew i'd be ill?' but it IS worth it in the end. I always wanted 3or 4 dc's but think this #2 will be the last as I really don't think either dp or I could go through it again.

Flame-look at I go to the one in poole She is a really lovely woman. It is £38 a session though so has been racking up a bit but has really helped me with several things-she'll treat loads of things/niggles at once and always stops a cold from developing

I hope everyone is 'ok' today x x x

I'll see if I can find the money for her

Do you think antenatal depression is inevitable with this? So far I am feeling like I am low with just feeling rough and not actual AND kicked in iyswim. It has tended to be at a bit past 20 weeks before though so I am not getting my hopes up yet!

Pharmacist nearly refused my meds because a) I am too far pregnant to need that many anti-sickness pills b) her book says that if they aren't working within 48hrs you should be doing something different therefore don't need that many (pointed out that they are working, hence me being upright) and c) my gp had written the wrong technical term for putting the pill between my gum and lip

It would've gotten very messy if she had tried to stop my pills!

Yes, I'll join you-am relieved that its not just me. Am almost 17 weeks. The vomiting umpteen times a day(my record was 19) seems to have calmed down a bit to 3-4 times now but I'm still feeling sick all of the time. I was about to be booked into hospital when it tailed off. Initially, my doctor cheerfully described me as having "a particularly hormonal pregnancy" and ruled out prescribing anything. I left my ante-natal thread for a bit as it felt like all I was doing was moaning and totally dreading each day when everyone else was happily looking forward.

By my scan at 13 weeks, I'd lost 9lbs and was feeling terrible. I sleep with a bucket next to the bed (bathroom downstairs) and am constantly spitting up saliva. Coughing makes everything worse and seems to be a big trigger- I reached a new low when I managed to cough, vomit and wee myself at the same time! This now happens regularly. I look q pregnant now which has stopped people giving me "disgusting drunk" looks when I have to throw up in the odd bush.

This is my first pg and a much wanted baby, I feel guilty for feeling so rough all the time. I've got a sister in law living nearby who(as mil is fond of telling me) never had any problems with her 2 pgs and loved being pg. My own mum keeps saying "ah,but think of the end result." Yes, quite. It doesn't stop me dreading each day though, I feel so exhausted after constantly retching. I def get what you're saying about feeling low-I left my job at end of Feb(planned)and was so looking forward to the time off and all the things I was going to do but I seem to spend all of it feeling/being sick or feeling grim and knackered. My freedom has been massively curtailed as car travel makes me feel so sick that I just avoid it.

Looking forward to trying acupuncture,v lucky as we have Unv Central Lancs in nearby Preston and they have a degree course in acupuncture with a nearby practice offering cut price sessions with training students. And I'm finally putting on some weight!

Big hug to everyone, hope things start to improve soon. x

Hi HT! Don't worry about moaningon the oct thread-as you can see there are at least 2 of us who know how you are feeling....
My record was 20 times from luch to bedtime-I had this for 4 days before dp dragged me to the docs and they prescribed my pills-can't remember the name but they are also used for insomnia and half an hour after taking them they knock me out. That worked really well as it is hard to be sick in a very deep sleep Anyway took them as she said fo about 3-4wks but really couldn't function with that kind of tiredness so tried a day without and my sickness had calmed down quite a lot (only about 5-6times) so I felt I could cope with that-except if we were going to inlaws etc for dinner when i'd take a pill and then try and prop my eyes open (we hadn't tols them at this point).......haven't taken one for a week or so now....

Re flames q re depression-I really think it is hard not to feel very very very low when you are feeling this sick, weak and dehydrated-(and tired, sore from being sick etc etc) I don't think mine turned into clinical depression but I did reach prob my lowest point ever

I really hope everyone feels much better and brighter soon.... x x x

HT - I remember sobbing on my GP during my first pregnancy, she was so understanding. Work was being shit to me, I was throwing up all the time, I was depressed - and she sat there and said "You just want a pregnancy like in the magazines don't you?" which was what led to me wailing "YES!!!" and snotting all over her for the next 20 mins

I am so grateful for understanding drs this time round too - they gave me the meds from 8 weeks which makes the sickness a couple of times a day on a normal day, but I get a few days respite at times which is heaven. I am thankful that the pills don't make me drowsy either - they say that they can, but the most they do is make me need an afternoon nap, which is normal for me during pg anyway.

Hi all.
How is everyone today?
I had a much better weekend - actually managed to do a little bit of gardening and go into town with dh, which is definitely progress.
Daffodilli - it's good (?) to know it's not just me that has the hyperptyalism! I was waiting outside a shop for dh for 10 minutes on Sat and there were crowds of shoppers everywhere and just nowhere to spit!
Yankncock - having trouble getting pg in the first place must make it much worse for you, if everyone is expecting you to be ecstatic about a longed-for pregnancy.
Flame - at your pharmacist.
I don't think antenatal depression is inevitable with HG but it can be pretty hard not to be depressed when you're not only feeling crap but also feeling like a waste of space and cut off from all enjoying all the things you normally do. Thank goodness it's only a few months.
The nice GP sounds lovely. I remember in my first pg I'd seen a succession of GPs (because I always had to get an emergency appointment to get my prescription renewed) and when I was about 12 weeks I finally managed to see one who actually seemed to know what HG was and said things like 'Oh, everyone always says it gets better at 12 weeks but that's rubbish in my experience', it was just such a relief to feel like someone was taking it seriously.