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would you have amnio if nuchal was 1:27000

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beeny · 07/10/2008 15:57

I am 38 and have one ds who is two.I just wanted some advice

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Minniethemoocher · 07/10/2008 20:53

No, not with odds like that. I think that there is rather an obsession with testing for Down's syndrome, there are so many other things too that can't be tested for...

My DD has suspected ASD and that can't be tested for pre-natally. If it could and I knew before hand??? I would still have had my lovely daughter!

Sorry, didn't meant to rant, but her diagnosis is very recent...

SaintRiven · 08/10/2008 07:46

quite Minnie. My dd has cerebral palsy. Thats a 1 in 400 for every birth. Its never mentioned.

kizzie · 08/10/2008 18:21

No - personally i wouldnt

chandellina · 09/10/2008 12:03

it's not the number they give you but how you feel about not knowing for sure about Downs, etc.
My nuchal and combined blood test gave me something like 1:7000 but i was 38 and still worried about it a lot.
frankly wished i'd had the amnio even though i'd had two previous miscarriages, because i over-analysed everything in the scans, etc., and was convinced DS was going to have Downs because his femur measured short.
he is now 10 weeks and perfectly healthy.
but if i were lucky enough to fall pregnant again (this one was a bit of a miracle), i think i would have the amnio.
also heard on news this week that there is some blood test being perfected that will give indication of Downs. (yes or no answer rather than odds.)

eidsvold · 09/10/2008 12:17

even with odds on certainty of child having down syndrome and ( at a later date learning it was around 1 in 5) I did not have an amnio.

An amnio could have told me that the baby featured here and halfway down here would have down syndrome. It would not have told me anything about the 6yo who is featured on my profile page. I can't imagine not meeting that baby and watching that wee girl grow up.

FWIW - 3/4 of the babies that are miscarried post amnio - are in fact babies without down syndrome. While it is still a small number that are miscarried - the majority of them do not have down syndrome.

eidsvold · 09/10/2008 12:18

but having said that - down syndrome was not an issue for us. In fact we were more concerned about her congenital heart defect than the fact that we were told if she was born without down syndrome it would be very rare indeed.

dinny · 09/10/2008 12:24

eidsvold, she is lovely - why is she a BBC baby? sorry, haven't read thread completely

eidsvold · 09/10/2008 12:55

dinny - there have been two recent articles by the BBC website regarding down syndrome (see links for pics) and so I wanted to show how far we have come since she was 1yo crawling around the floor of our home in the UK. Pic on profile is her riding her birthday bike ( aug this year) in our home in Aus!!

citronella · 09/10/2008 13:06

I would. I did regardless of any statistics. They are only probabilities and I wanted certainty. Then I really was able to relax.

wasabipeanut · 09/10/2008 13:06

no

elkiedee · 09/10/2008 13:16

First baby at 37, I was just told that results were low risk, I was happy not even to ask more. Second time round, pregnant at 38 but about to turn 39 long before due date, stats much worse and I had CVS. It was a dilemma but I think that either test is probably less risky as those doing them gain more experience, particularly if you're at a hospital where screening is routine. My stats were designated "high risk" though still less than 1% (1:120).

With the figure you quote, no, I wouldn't have.

dinny · 09/10/2008 13:19

eidsvold - I see! she's very cute, my dd is six too

I am pregnant again and had a nuchal (no boods though) and got 1/750 risk - didn't have an amnio

all this 1/20000 etc is amazingly low - none of mine have ever been better than 1/1000

dinny · 09/10/2008 13:21

personally, though, I don't think I'd ever have an amnio

eidsvold · 09/10/2008 13:23

dinny - the only reason we had the nts was because of a possibility of an inherited cardiac condition and a increased nuchal measurement can be an indication of a cardiac condition. They also checked very closely at the 20 week scan BUT we still have to wait until dd3 is around 3 or 4. Dd2 has recently been ruled out. My dds had a 1 in 50 chance of having a cardiac condition that dh has.

dinny · 09/10/2008 13:28

sorry, eidsvold, what is nts? Nuchal transparency?

eidsvold · 09/10/2008 13:28

sorry nuchal translucency screening - which is what they call it here.

crumpet · 09/10/2008 13:46

I had a cvs with both of mine but the chances of a miscarriage with a cvs were lower than my nuchal score ( 1 in 89 and 1 in 62) so the risk felt worth it.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 09/10/2008 16:04

o the risk of cp is 1 in 400

And the risk of autism for Joe Public is 1 in 100 (Ds1 is more disabled than any person I've met with DS yet)

Might help put the screening risk factors into context.

Was it really 1 in 27000 and not 1 in 2700. If 1 in 27000 there must be many many more conditions that are more likely (almost any surely). I think we can focus on things just because they can be tested for antenatally. Of course one option is to rule out anything you can get a routine test for, but if it's about pregnancy anxiety then considering the figures in context may also be useful.

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