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Pushchairs again........

37 replies

Twelvelegs · 20/06/2008 19:40

When I have my next baby my dd will be 26 months and I was thinking of buying an ICandy pear has anyone used one before?
I'm also thinking of buying this for now as our stroller is knackered. I have a Gesslein pram/pushchair which is lovely, again I wondered if anyone has any experience of this?? It's only £150 too, reclines to flat position and has large shopping basket.

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twelveyeargap · 20/06/2008 20:14

Pear seemed a bit of an arse to fold when I looked at it. I'm getting one of these Zoom tandems. I will have a 14 month gap.

You can get converters to use a Maxi Cosi car seat on it and can get a carrycot, much like the Pear.

The chassis of the Zoom folds up really small though, which is why I liked it. Most doubles are huuuge when folded.

However, with a gap like yours, you might find a Phil and Teds is better. I hate them on the basis that I don't like a child sitting right on the floor like they do, but with your gap, the baby would be on the "shelf" until your other child was 30 months or so, and then possibly old enough to walk or go on a buggy board at the back, rather than sitting behind the baby.

Twelvelegs · 20/06/2008 20:15

I will not have a Phil and Teds!!!! I hate the baby in the shopping basket, plus I live in a big polluted city and the baby will be car fume level.

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twelveyeargap · 20/06/2008 20:18

And regarding strollers. I just bought a M&P Nipi Bargain. Suitable from birth (though I prefer to have a "proper" buggy for newborns) so will do for either child if they're being taken out one at a time.

Twelvelegs · 20/06/2008 20:22

This had to be the stroller bargain of the decade and german made too!!

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Twelvelegs · 20/06/2008 20:24

Sorry posted on the wrong thread, like to repeat myself though!!!

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PInkyminkyohnooo · 20/06/2008 20:25

Phil & Teds has been great for us. The children love it.

You can't escape car fumes just because you are tall, I'm afraid- it really doesn't work that way!

If you put your toddler in the from seat of a regular tandem pushchair and try to go up a few kerbs, you'll soon see why people buy a P&T.

Twelvelegs · 20/06/2008 20:26

Zoom looks great but I'll being having my fourth c-section and couldn't take the strain of the weight at the front.

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misdee · 20/06/2008 20:27

the pear is aheavey.

the seats are very small

and its a buger to fold.

its huge.

the phil and teds is honestly the best tandem available for toddler/newborn.

Twelvelegs · 20/06/2008 20:29

I know people who have the P&T's love it, even people who loathed them but I couldn't get over the baby underneath!! I know about pollution, it's more a feeling than fact.
I wouldn't buy a regular tandem EVER, but I had a twin buggy for my boys 14 months apart (great gap BTW, no jealousy lovely lovely.)

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Twelvelegs · 20/06/2008 20:30

Misdee, I don't really want an honest opinion, I want someone to say it's the best thing they've ever bought. It looks so nice!!
The other option is a first wheels but they're so wide it's ridiculous!

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PInkyminkyohnooo · 20/06/2008 20:34

If it helps, DD treats the shopping basket as her roving toy box- she loves it. (mine are 16 months apart, BTW, and I have no car so our P&T has been used loads, I can get them on the bus no probs, easy to push after a c-section, and it'll still be going strong when number 3 arrives in Nov.

The only other pram I'd consider would be a three wheeler side by side but our doorway is too narrow, as would be most of the little shops here.

misdee · 20/06/2008 20:36

what about a phi land teds twin, mountain buggy or out n about nipper 360?

those are the narrowest side by sides.

mel2005 · 20/06/2008 22:06

i had a 17 mth gap between my two and i had loads of twin buggies like the p&t E3, Sport and twin, jane powertwin, ABC everest, m&p etc, the mountain buggy double urban was by far the best and you can have a carrycot on one side. the newer versions have the adjustable handle so its smaller to fold. there is loads of room in the basket and it has some nice handy pockets. it is fantastic to push and is only a few cm wider than the single version. i will not need a double this time as my youngest will be 3y when i have my next in jan. we will still be using our mountain buggy urban elite single. mountain buggies are so strong and reliable, they have big seats so your toddler will be comfortable. the carryot is really nice and the buggy is fantastic around the city and on the beach.

PInkyminkyohnooo · 20/06/2008 22:17

wow that's a lot of prams! I'm guessing you didn't have them all at once?

PInkyminkyohnooo · 20/06/2008 22:17

wow that's a lot of prams! I'm guessing you didn't have them all at once?

PInkyminkyohnooo · 20/06/2008 22:18

oops sorry for double post. I'd love a mountain buggy but cannot afford and won't fit through our front door.

littleducks · 20/06/2008 22:23

steer clear of icandy am still trying to flog my cherry, (brand new frames only fabric ever used )

i have a phil and teds, is good when dd wants to walk i take her seat off

olyoly · 20/06/2008 23:04

I love my phil and ted's. It works when I only have one child with me, or two. ...Now what to do with the third baby... It is a bit bulky - that is my only complaint.

twelveyeargap · 20/06/2008 23:36

The Pear weighs the same with converter and seats on as most other tandems. They advertise the chassis frame weight, so it seems light. The advantage of something like the Zoom, is that the heaviest child can always be at the back, so you don't kill yourself trying to go up kerbs. The Pear has the bigger seat on the front as per other tandems, although for the first while, I think the carrycot goes on the front.

If weight is an issue, then I think Graco twins and tandems are the lightest on the market.

mel2005 · 21/06/2008 09:39

no i didnt have them all at once OH would have gone mad . i bought an as new secondhand mountain buggy double urban from e-bay for £300 with accessories and sold it for £350 when i had finished with it. i have seen them go alot cheaper as bin. you can get a carrycot cheap on there as well, there is a carrycot for the double on there for £50 bin at the moment and it is the newest version. i bought my single carrycot for £35 inc postage from e-bay. i used to store it in the car and i did fit through the front door but not the internal doors but then the single version only just fits the internal doors as we have an old house.
i must say i did like the abc everest with the toddler seat on top. my little boy loved being able to talk to me and he could see everything. he also liked the bugaboo with the buggyboard and the boo seat when he was about two onwards.

pgwithnumber3 · 21/06/2008 11:07

Twelvelegs - I too am having this dilemma over double pushchairs! I will have a 17 month gap between DD2 and DC3, atm I have a Bugaboo and a M&P pushchair. I LOVE my Bugaboo and would hate to get rid of it but will still need to get my 17 month old around. I am thinking of getting a Double pushchair such as the Maclaren Techno or the Silver Cross Pop and Babydan do a pram seat which I believe can fit on to the pram part of the Bugaboo. Oh decisions!

I had a Gesslein pram for my DD1 (6 years ago). It was nicely made but not very practical. The pushchair you like looks good though.

cass66 · 21/06/2008 11:18

a different opinion. I have a 2yr gap between my two. I carried the baby in a wilkinet sling for the first few months (she was/is a lightweight) while pushing the 2 yr old. then I bought a buggy board which the 2 yr old loved, and so used the same single push chair and avoided needing a double pushchair. hubby was dead against a double pushchair and also very keen to get the kids walking as much as poss. And we do walk, around the village, to school/playgroup now they're older, and use the bus into town.

just another option, not saying it would work for you... Cass.

GreenMonkies · 21/06/2008 11:23

Have you thought of a sling and single buggy/pram combo. Not a nasty strappy back killing Baby Bjorn type, a proper sling to carry your newborn (safe to do even after a c-section as they distribute the weight to your lower back and hips not on your shoulders and waist like a Baby Bjorn type) and you can breastfeed in them (much more discretely than she is doing in that picture but that gives you the basic idea!)

It will save you the cost of a double buggy as by the time the baby is too heavy to carry for long stretches the older child will be big enough to walk/go on a buggy board. The main problem with most double buggies is they mostly face away from the pusher, and to my mind babies should be able to see thier Mummy (and not a scarey sea of legs!) and I always wanted to be able to see my baby too!

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