Heartbroken... second miscarriage at the exact same time, any success stories please?

[Ladyinpink1]

Hello, first of all I have 2 dc no issues very straightforward pregnancies then in December I had a miscarriage at 9 weeks, but baby stopped growing at 8 weeks.
Now, I started bleeding Saturday night, has a scan yesterday at 11weeks 5 days and they confirmed it was a miscarriage that happened at 8weeks 4 days (exactly when I had my early scan that showed a strong heartbeat)

So I feel so much I would like another but the thought of this happening again is just too much. I feel that it's strange it was 8 weeks both times and i'm scared something is wrong. The EPU said they will refer me for blood tests for investigations in the upcoming weeks and have given me a Doctors letter for progesterone pessarys if I fall pregnant again (need a whole other thread to understand what these are and how they work)

Anyway I guess i'm feeling so sad and without hope today and I don't understand why this is happening and I hope someone can give me advice and experiences of the same thing.

I feel so alone today and have no-one in my real life I can talk to that would understand. Thank you for reading x

@Ladyinpink1 I’m so sorry this has happened to you. I’m in a very similar situation at the moment where I’ve had 2 consecutive missed miscarriages and both pregnancies ended at 6 weeks, but I wasn’t aware. I’m waiting for my GP to call me to discuss removal of the pregnancy (again) and then I think I’m going to request some further tests to see if anything shows up. Take it easy and I hope you get some answers soon x

So sorry to hear what you're going through. I started bleeding at exactly 7 weeks for our first two pregnancies, the first was diagnosed as an unknown location (nothing could be seen on the scan) and the second showed an empty sac measuring 5 weeks. Like you, I questioned why it kept going wrong at 7 weeks but our EPU were amazing and gave us progesterone for our current pregnancy which I'm now 24 weeks. The progesterone tablets are essential like little waxy bullets that you insert vaginally. They can be a bit messy and do mean you have to spend half an hour every morning and evening laid down after inserting but it's so worth it if it helps! I was also told to take a low dose of aspirin. I've got no idea if the progesterone and aspirin have helped this pregnancy or if it was just meant to be but it made me feel a lot better knowing that I was doing all I could to support it x

I had 5 before dd1 and then another before dd2. I used low dose aspirin in my successful pregnancies. Maybe try that

@EJT91 i'm really sorry you are going through this too. That's one of the worst things, the waiting for it to be over, isn't it. hopefully we both get answers, and I hope you get an appointment quickly my next appointment at hosp is in a week so hoping most of it happens at home before then.

Will you request the progesterone if you try again? I don't know alot about it but it seems to be used alot after a few losses x

2 in a row is hard as it starts to feel like a pattern.

The fact you've had 2 DC is a really good sign.

Have you read It Starts with the Egg?

@9422x thank you, and congratulations, that's really encouraging to know you are 24 weeks now after 2 losses at the sane time. So apart from the pessarys and aspirin did you change anything else? x

@toomanyleggings Thank you and i'm sorry, 5 must of been dreadful. How do you take the asprin? I mean how many and when do you start? x

@Ladyinpink1 thank you! I said this to my partner. Being told there is no heartbeat is one thing but then knowing you have to go through the pregnancy removal is heartbreaking. Unfortunately my body is stubborn and doesn’t let go of the pregnancy. My HCG levels stay up so my body thinks I’m still pregnant. It took 4 months last time to get sorted (they left me too long to try and sort it and then the pandemic hit) it was extremely traumatic. This time I’m going to insist on having the Pessary so I can miscarry at home naturally. Just to save all the heartache from last time. I think I will request progesterone next time. Progesterone thickens the lining of your womb so the pregnancy is more likely to hang on. I will request everything so I know then I’ve done everything I can to help. We will see what the blood test says x

@Ladyinpink1 Thank you. After our second loss I took scoured these forums in desperate search of some hope so know exactly how you're feeling. I also had my thyroid and blood tested for clotting but they all came back normal. I take 150mg of aspirin tablets each morning and have done since our positive test. Just buy them from Home Bargains x

@9422x this is so interesting. I’ve heard a lot of success stories through the use of aspirin. Do you still take it now? Was it through guidance from your midwife or did you do it off your own back? If nothing comes back from my own blood test I will look into this.

@EJT91 I do still take it and have been advised to take it all through pregnancy. We paid to see a private consultant after the second less as knew we wouldn't be eligible for NHS tests until a third and he recommended it - said both that and the progesterone wouldn't do any harm but could potentially support the pregnancy x

Thank you @Whataretheodds no I haven't, I take it it's worth reading? x

@EJT91 That sounds horrendous,and i'm sure that's added to the worry and stress this time. Really hope you have a quicker less traumatic experience and the doctor is helpful this time x

@9422x I will definitely get some asprin if we are ever fortunate enough to conceive again x

@Ladyinpink1 so sorry to hear about your losses. It's such a difficult and confusing time but I wanted to give you some hope.

We had 3 consecutive miscarriages all around the same time. We had the 3rd loss checked and it came back positive with T16. I was then convinced that the previous 2 must have had the same. We then fell pregnant again after having 6 months off trying to conceive and I fully expected the same to happen again especially when early scans showed that baby was measuring behind. Anyway last week our beautiful baby boy arrived safe and sound.

So please don't give up, it's so hard at the time to think positive but there isn't anything to suggest you don't get your baby in the bed and it will be worth it.

I was advised to take progesterone in my last pregnancy. I can't say if that contributed to it being successful but it's worth a go.

Good luck

sorry I meant say so hard at the time to think positive but there isn't anything to suggest you won't get your baby in the end and it will be worth it.

I had 2 before I had my DS.. I used low dose aspirin with him just incase it did do something to help, whether it was a coincidence or what I don't know but worth a shot

My mum had 3 miscarriages, all around 8-11 weeks within the space of 2 years. Then got pregnant with my sister, who is now 20.

@Ladyinpink1 I've just been to see my GP to get a referral to the EPU and I asked about the blood tests and she said that the county I live in don’t investigate until you’ve had 4 consecutive miscarriages! She told me to speak to the EPU though as they can override this if they feel it’s necessary and request blood tests. If they say no, I think we are going to try private.

@EJT91 that's ridiculous! Your GP can refer you to the Tommy's miscarriage centre after 3 if your local hospital doesn't provide support after 3. It makes my blood boil how little GPs educate themselves on miscarriage support.

From the Tommy's Website:

Our London clinics at Queen Charlotte's & Chelsea Hospital and St Mary's Hospital, LondonCriteria
Your GP will need to refer you via the NHS e-Referral service (often called the ‘choose & book’ system) if you meet the following criteria:

• you have had 3 or more early miscarriages
• you have had 1 or more late miscarriages.
• you do not have two or more living children.
• you are less than 42 years old.

You do not need to live in the local area to be referred to our London clinics. Yvette Fenton (reproductive medicine coordinator) and Saffa Ali (recurrent miscarriage coordinator) can be contacted by email regarding any referral or appointment queries at [email protected]

@moosey89 funnily enough, my friend just sent me the same and said how ridiculous it is. My heart sank when she told me. Why would I put myself through it a 4th time! My partner is adamant we’re not going to try again until we’ve had some tests because of the toll it takes on me emotionally. So it looks like we’re going private after Christmas to give us a break. We’ve got a lovely holiday booked in December, so we will enjoy that and then look at trying again 😊

I just took one 150mg dose. With my first baby after the five miscarriages I took it as soon as I thought I’d ovulated. With my second I took it as soon as I got my bfp. The miscarriage I’d had between my first and second child I didn’t take it as it was a surprise pregnancy and I was already further along than when I’d miscarried previously so thought I was ok but it was a missed miscarriage at 11 weeks that time. Like someone said upthread could be a coincidence but aspirin seemed to help me

So sorry to hear you're going through this, it's tough.
I had two miscarriages, with very similar timings to yours, and I also have a DD- never any issues conceiving with that one.

However I fell pregnant two months after second miscarriage and I am now 23 weeks pregnant, and all is well so far so please don't lose hope.
Good luck

Look up the changes to NICE guidelines that were agreed recently - Google Myleene Klass miscarriage support as she was the face of the campaign.

Ask your GP for FBC - important to check your thyroid, iron levels, vit D, and FSH and LH.

Ask 'what can you do for me so I don't have to risk another miscarriage'.

Congratulations, and thank you @Lonestar1988 that's good to know things worked out. And again from the comments the progesterone seems to be a really common denominator in a successful pregnancy.
Thank you @miniegg3 and @MovingOn13 for the encouraging experiences, and I am going to try aspirin if we are successful in conceiving again in future

@EJT91 That's awful... after 4!! I'm sorry, that's the last thing you need to hear right now. Can I ask what country you are in with that rule? It doesn't seem fair, I was offered blood tests after this miscarriage and so should you be. x

@Sweetspidey congratulations, and again thank you, every one of these experiences gives me hope and I will probably reread them all over these next months x

@Ladyinpink1 I should have also said- after my second miscarriage I asked my GP for some general blood tests, which came back with a Vitamin D deficiency (even though I was taking a pregnancy multivitamin containing Vitamin D at the time). I started taking maximum dose Vit D after this, and then had a successful (so far) pregnancy on the next try.

I have absolutely no idea whether or not this contributed to the miscarriages or if it was coincidence, but just thought it might be worth mentioning.

@Sweetspidey That's funny you say that because when I said to the midwife at the EPU that I was eating well etc and just couldn't understand why it happened, she asked me was I taking vitamin D and extra folic acid. I said yes but she said you need a really high dose of vitamin D x