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ICSI newbie!

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Marie9532 · 09/09/2022 22:17

Hi everyone! I’m very new to this so I’m sorry if there is already a discussion on this already! I’m not great with the abbreviations either 😅 My partner and I had been trying for over 3 years and last year we were diagnosed with unexplained infertility. We were messed around quite a lot but then eventually found out my partner was producing antibodies which basically killed his own sperm! Flash forward to now and we are due to start our ICSI treatment this month and I’m so nervous! I’ve always been a bit nervous of anything to do with having children and the physical side of it so obviously this is causing me more anxiety! I just wanted to see if anyone had a similar journey or is going through the process now? I know it’s going to be an emotional rollercoaster and I’m naturally quite a negative person so do worry about any risks of the treatment! Thanks everyone xxx

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Lizzie989 · 18/09/2022 06:12

@Marie9532 we start our first round of icsi following a failed ivf round in June. This is due to only one embryo out of 9 not making it to day 5. My anxiety is terrible and we are so worried but hopeful. We hopefully start stims this Saturday and egg collection will be early October. How about you xx

Marie9532 · 18/09/2022 07:56

@Lizzie989 I'm sorry to hear that! It's so tough! We are having our injection training next week so will be on medication for the 2 weeks or however long it takes! I'm very anxious as well as this is very new to me. Our egg collection will be mid October so we are on a similar journey time wise! I'm worrying about the whole process really but trying to stay positive! Sending you lots of luck xxx

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Lizzie989 · 18/09/2022 07:58

@Marie9532 keep your mind as busy as you can but it's so hard. I'm going to try acupuncture this time to see if that helps. X

Marie9532 · 18/09/2022 08:00

I have heard of people having acupuncture to help. My friend who was having difficulties for sometime started acupuncture and said it helped a lot. She's now 5 months pregnant xxx

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Lizzie989 · 19/09/2022 09:24

That's amazing news!! Fingers crossed it works 🥰

Teaanddoghair · 20/09/2022 18:45

Hey Ladies! Congratulations on starting your ICSI journeys.
We started on ours at the end of July after 4 years of infertility and 2 miscarriages.
Not going to lie, the ICSI journey was emotionally and physically draining - just felt uncomfortable alot of the time. But worth it as I'm now 7weeks 5 days, due in May 2023.

More than happy to answer any of your questions that you may have or about any worries!

Marie9532 · 20/09/2022 18:51

Hi @Teaanddoghair awww congratulations!!! That's lovely news for you!! How exciting! Yeah I'd love to know more! It's still very early days for me, although we are having our injection training on Friday and starting that step! It's just the timings of everything that is causing me anxiety because I just don't know when anything will be as we are waiting for my body to play ball! You mentioned feeling uncomfortable- is that a result of the medication? Did anything help you? Xx

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Ginger1982 · 20/09/2022 19:04

Also happy to help with questions. My 5 year old ICSI baby is complaining he doesn't want to go to bed 😊

Teaanddoghair · 20/09/2022 19:13

No worries at all - I'll answer as much as I can. We had noone to ask so I like to hope I can bring something to others about it!

I started on Northistrone tablets (side effects were basically bad PMS) for ten days, then had to wait to bleed. I was also worried about timing but was grand - then 3 days later we started our injections.

Was massively worried about them but they were very easy once you got over the first one or two. My partner was the one who did 95% of them, so he felt more involved. Would recommend a little ice pack for the area after to help the bruising.
Side effects were bloating, and once the ovaries started swelling, it was uncomfortable to move too quickly etc. Good reason they recommend to rest and take it easy.

The egg collection I was petrified of, but all the staff were lovely. It's not painful per say, again, just uncomfortable. Think period cramps. Again, limited movement after. Would recommend taking a few days off.
Thankfully my doctor signed me off for 3 weeks for the whole process so I could rest and not overdo it.
The waiting between can be difficult, would recommend new TV shows, gentle walks etc. But tbh, it'll fly in alot quicker when you're in the midst of it all.
Thankfully didn't get OHSS, so they were able to do a 5 day transfer. It's a lovely experience, if not a bit bizarre because you walk away knowing something is in there.
Tbh the 2ww to test is probably the most difficult. Would urge you not to test early to avoid disappointment, esp if the line does appear the few days after.

Btw if I haven't covered any questions at all, please ask away. Alot of information!

Make sure you stay nice and hydrated, and I would aim to avoid any foods that you know make you bloated now, because adding to the bloat from the hormones is tough 😂

Get some comfy leggings and t-shirts to wear. I couldn't stand anything tight touching me.

If you can, switch to a non scented showergel (like sanex) as on the day of egg collection etc they will ask you to be freshly showered with no scented products.

Ummm, oh I know I'll think of more but please pick my brain if there's anything specific!

Teaanddoghair · 20/09/2022 19:20

Ginger1982 · 20/09/2022 19:04

Also happy to help with questions. My 5 year old ICSI baby is complaining he doesn't want to go to bed 😊

I am looking forward to this 😂

Marie9532 · 20/09/2022 22:47

Ah thank you @Ginger1982 and oh dear! Haha!

Wow that's so helpful, thank you @Teaanddoghair

I'm not sure if I'm going on tablets as that's not been mentioned? Maybe I've missed something somewhere in all of the appointments!

I'm concerned about work as I have so many meetings and visits that I have to do but I know if I need to be at the hospital then I must go! I hate not knowing and being able to plan. I know we are relying on my body a lot!

Yes I've heard the bruising can be quite bad and I bruise like a peach! Rest and take it easy, gotcha!

To be honest it's the egg collection I think I'm most worried about but they've said I'll be under conscious sedation. Basically I fear any kind of procedure done below haha! I'll be the worst pregnant person!! Ah that's great your doctor did that! I may have to play it by ear!

That's the thing for me, the waiting! I'm impatient as it is!

Yes fingers crossed I don't get OHSS. I've said this to my partner, it will be weird knowing something has happened. It's trying to find the excitement as obviously it's not the "usual" way but it's our way so it's special.

I know the TWW too well after years of disappointment. I've heard the line can appear even if you aren't pregnant following treatment so good tip!

Honestly thank you so much. Lots of things I hadn't even considered like the shower gel! You've covered so much and it's so helpful! I really appreciate it! What was the implantation like? So really throughout the whole process, no pain as such just the usual cramps and some bloaty discomfort? Xxx

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Ginger1982 · 20/09/2022 22:52

Marie9532 · 20/09/2022 22:47

Ah thank you @Ginger1982 and oh dear! Haha!

Wow that's so helpful, thank you @Teaanddoghair

I'm not sure if I'm going on tablets as that's not been mentioned? Maybe I've missed something somewhere in all of the appointments!

I'm concerned about work as I have so many meetings and visits that I have to do but I know if I need to be at the hospital then I must go! I hate not knowing and being able to plan. I know we are relying on my body a lot!

Yes I've heard the bruising can be quite bad and I bruise like a peach! Rest and take it easy, gotcha!

To be honest it's the egg collection I think I'm most worried about but they've said I'll be under conscious sedation. Basically I fear any kind of procedure done below haha! I'll be the worst pregnant person!! Ah that's great your doctor did that! I may have to play it by ear!

That's the thing for me, the waiting! I'm impatient as it is!

Yes fingers crossed I don't get OHSS. I've said this to my partner, it will be weird knowing something has happened. It's trying to find the excitement as obviously it's not the "usual" way but it's our way so it's special.

I know the TWW too well after years of disappointment. I've heard the line can appear even if you aren't pregnant following treatment so good tip!

Honestly thank you so much. Lots of things I hadn't even considered like the shower gel! You've covered so much and it's so helpful! I really appreciate it! What was the implantation like? So really throughout the whole process, no pain as such just the usual cramps and some bloaty discomfort? Xxx

I was completely knocked out for egg collection but I actually found the transfers more painful and wish I had asked for something to take the edge off! I've had 4 rounds in total (1 successful) and I have different memories and experiences from each one.

Teaanddoghair · 20/09/2022 23:07

Not everyone does the tablets - they had me on them to regulate my period so I bled at a certain time to start the injections. My cycle was a bit irregular / long so think it was to make it easier for them.

Have you been open with your work/boss about the process?
I spoke to my manager and drew up a very very rough timescale, and kept him up to date with appointments etc so he knew roughly if I may call in sick or might need a few hours off for the appointments. I know alot of jobs won't be as flexible, but may help if they think you're having an off day to be a bit more understanding.

Your pain should be fairly minimal. It's literally just being uncomfortable for most of it. A good hot water bottle and also those stick on heat patches were a wonder!
When the ovaries swell they can get a bit tender and bruised feeling (mine are still a bit big cause of the hormones) so don't be too concerned if you maybe feel a light 'nip' if you bend over quickly or turn later in the process, your body is going through a lot so it will feel tender.

I cried when I was given the sedation, stupid hormones made me cry, woke up crying too, but it was just the medication and the exhaustion from it all 😂 Just get yourself to bed after it and have a nice lazy day.

The embryo transfer itself was very very quick. Again, just uncomfortable as needed a full bladder for them to see what they were doing. But basically feels just like a smear. I had to sit for a while with my legs in stirrups because they couldn't find a speculum long enough 😂 nothing like having a flash light shined straight at your doot! But partner was allowed in and they showed us where they implanted.

The actual waiting game after - I was still tender from the egg collection, but I started getting implantation cramps about 3/4 days later which were again, like period cramps. Then came the sore boobs. The incredible thirst. Very very light spotting (which can also happen from the progesterone pessaries annoying the cervix). We tested 10 days after the transfer and got the positive.

Then came the next wait for the 3 weeks to get the viability scan, which is frankly, also a shitty ass wait! They don't tell you that it can nearly feel worse than the 2ww.

Your body will take a while to heal from all the hormones. My ovaries are still big (they don't shrink down as quick if pregnancy hormones kick in) so take it as easy as possible for next month or so and don't be worried to cancel plans. Very important to put yourself first.

Also something to be aware of, obviously Covid rules have lessened, but we had to have Covid tests before the sperm/egg collection, registered with the government site saying we were negative. Covid still can unfortunately place another delay or cancel the cycle. We kept a distance from people as much as possible for the month beforehand until egg collection was done. Know it's not possible for everyone, but am extra bottle of hand sanitizer just incase won't hurt!

I'm excited to hear about how your journey will go, if you're comfortable, hearing updates would be fab!

Also again, any questions any time throughout, here to answer.

Btw if you need any good reading, worth reading IVF Got This book!

MariaMc1 · 21/09/2022 12:52

Hi 😊
we had ICSI and I’m now pregnant from our first round. Still early days as I’m only 5 weeks but all is going well so far. Im happy to answer any questions you may have as I was honestly so clueless to everything when we started and know it can be a little daunting.

I actually found the egg collection fine, they say conscious sedation but they said to me most people fall asleep. I didn’t fall asleep and was awake for the whole thing but I didn’t really feel any pain and it was all over so quick and just feels like a blur now. There was a nurse holding my hand and chatting to me the whole time so I was really just focusing on her. The thought of it was a lot scarier than the actual procedure. The same with the transfer. It was painless except for a tiny little stingy sensation for literally seconds. I know everyone is different but my experience was really positive with both. Wishing you luck x

peanutpending · 21/09/2022 15:32

Hi @Teaanddoghair - again, thanks so much for all of this.

Ah so my cycle is pretty regular which is maybe why they haven't mentioned any tablets? I'll see what the weekend brings.

To be honest we've not really told many people, just a few close friends as my partner feels it is very personal to us. I'm definitely a lot more open about it but I think he tries to blame himself for all of this :( which is why he doesn't want to share it with many people. I think I also have the fear if we are unlucky this time, we will have to explain that as well. It's really tough!

It's the sedation that I am worrying about as I've never been sedated before! Maybe fear of the unknown is taking over! All of the nurses have been so lovely so far so that reassures me! Good idea about booking the day off! I wish I had set dates so I could book them now!

I'm terrible with smears but I think that's because I do get quite anxious and tense! Pretty sure I have a tilted cervix as well! I am going to try some relaxation methods ahead of it for sure!

I think being able to be there every step of the way is really nice for our partners and us! It's quite interesting to see it all work!

When we first began TTC I was a nightmare with the TWW. A nightmare! I'm a lot more relaxed now but it's so hard not to symptom spot!

I'm naturally quite a health conscious person and do get quite anxious so I'll be doing everything I can to relax and make sure I'm taking it easy.

Ah yes of course! Covid really can throw a spanner in the works!

I will definitely keep updating as I know how useful it has been for me! Thanks again for all of your help so far! I'll definitely take a look at that book xxx

peanutpending · 21/09/2022 15:33

Hi @MariaMc1 - thank you so much for sharing! A massive congratulations to you and it's lovely to hear about your positive experience! Oh wow so you didn't go to sleep! Was it quite strange? I'm not sure what I'd prefer..maybe like you actually so I can see what's going on haha!

Lizzie989 · 21/09/2022 19:42

Thank you so much for all of the info!! It's so hard to keep going, so glad I've found this thread!! Xx

peanutpending · 21/09/2022 20:25

Hi @Teaanddoghair sorry just realised that when I changed my name it didn't change on all of my posts! Confusing!

I was just wondering when you started your injections? Is it always day 1 of your cycle? How often were you having scans during the injection process? Xxx

peanutpending · 21/09/2022 20:32

Sorry I feel like I'm asking so many questions!! It's just so nice to hear everyone's experiences and go through the whole process with others who understand xx

peanutpending · 23/09/2022 16:55

Hi everyone! Just to let you know I started my first lot of injections today! The nurse asked if I wanted my first one done there and then and I didn't feel a thing! I was so nervous beforehand but she was so lovely and reassuring! Xx

MariaMc1 · 23/09/2022 17:28

That’s great @peanutpending glad to hear you’re underway. Are you long or short protocol?

peanutpending · 23/09/2022 18:55

Hi @MariaMc1 - we are long protocol. What were you? Xx

Lizzie989 · 24/09/2022 05:52

@peanutpending I had my baseline scan and bloods yesterday. I haven't got as many follicles this time as I had in May, but they have said it's nothing to worry about. Last time I have 14 and 13 but this cycle they only can see 8 and 5. I was a bit worried but I've just got to keep these positive vibes! I'm starting my stims today though which is exciting, so only one day behind you! 🥳🥳 x roll on October! X

peanutpending · 24/09/2022 07:19

Hi @Lizzie989 - Ah that's so exciting!!! Keep me posted! Stay positive! Our bodies change so much! I think you're ahead of me though as I've only just started my injections and the harvest (the nurse called it this yesterday and it always makes me laugh Grin) will be towards the end of October. Well all depending on my body and what it decides to do! I think it's all in my head but I've woken up feeling so rough today!

Hopeful16 · 24/09/2022 08:08

I have 2 ICSI children - one from a fresh transfer (almost 6) and one from the same "batch" from a frozen transfer (almost 4). Ours was a "sperm issue" and this is the best way to help.
I always think that the whole process wasn't as bad as I expected with hormones and stress. Not as bad as the endless cycle of hope and disappointment in the years trying beforehand anyway.
The worst thing about the egg collection was sore hips/ pelvis - I think they pushed my legs "open" a bit far.
You get used to the injections- I hate needles so this worried me- but I would advise to choose your daily time with your clinic to suit you and your commitments.
I have a colleague who also has a little boy from ICSI and my message throughout to her was not to get fixated on numbers as you only need one - that's all she ended up with after the process but he's about to turn 2! Keep positive but realistic.