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Pregnant with 2nd at 41

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AV2022 · 16/08/2022 18:10

I still cannot believe that I am posting this. After having one child and regretting it and trying to get pregnant I finally am quite unexpectedly and I am now terrified. There will be a 12 yr age gap between the two. DC has categorically said they like being an only child and DH says its up to me- he would rather not but he will support my decision. We are both in our 40s. This will push back our retirement by 12 yrs atleast. Anyone been in a similar situation?

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PewterHeart · 16/08/2022 18:42

Not experienced in your position but kind of in your unborn babies position! There's nearly 12 years between my and my next sibling up (four of us in total). I was more or less raised like an only child because my siblings we all out of the house by the time I was 5ish. They never resented me for being a late surprise and I think that your older child will get used to it even if they are reluctant at first! ^
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Your other child is 12... they don't really know what the other option is and I imagine would have a hard time trying to imagine it. There's nothing like having a sibling... it's like I know I could never accurately know how I'd feel about having a twin, because I don't have one! I know twins so maybe I could guess... but that doesn't really say how I would definitely feel if actually put in that position because everyone is different!

I think it's good that your husband would be supportive and I think you should definitely go through with it (if that's the unspoken question here). My motto would always be unexpected but never unwelcome. You have a little baby in you! He/she is here for a reason. You will do just fine, you've done it all before and your existing child will be fairly self sufficient for physical needs, just make sure they get the emotional needs still so they don't resent the new baby and go from there. You'll figure it all out I'm sure 😊

Aside from that, I hope someone who has actually been in your position (or similar) can offer some advice from your perspective.

sunsoutmumsout · 16/08/2022 18:58

were you trying to get pregnant or was this a contraception failure? Or do you mean you regret having your eldest? Sorry it wasn't clear? I think most 12 year olds would say they don't want a sibling when they've been an only for so long. And most men just seem to go along and leave a decision like this up to us. It's a significant adjustment for your eldest and given how aware they are at that age probably grosses them out to think that their parents are clearly sexually actively

Lots of women have children in their early 40s now so it's not uncommon in that respect. Personally I wouldn't want to have such a large age gap though at that age

Jamaisy82 · 16/08/2022 19:20

Hi I'm 39 and due in just a few weeks. It was unexpected as I wasn't wanting another child and I was on contraceptive pill. My first child is 22 next week so that's a huge age gap for me. At first I hated the idea and now I'm excited about it even though very scared of birth. Things will work out in the end they always do. Good luck.

Pheepa · 16/08/2022 19:52

I’m 39 and pregnant with my 3rd. My daughters will be 10 and 13 by the time he arrives. We decided to try for another one for various reasons but the overwhelming one when we were discussing it, the big age gap, us being older and how it would affect our lives as we approach retirement was that we would never regret having another child but we probably/possibly would regret not trying. I know your situation is different as this has been sprung on you so to speak but think about what decision you may regret. Good luck!

AV2022 · 16/08/2022 20:24

I guess my biggest concern is having a baby with special needs which in itself itsnt a problem but worry about leaving my older with something to worry about when we are gone.

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ihatebojo · 16/08/2022 20:54

OP, I guess that's always a concern when bringing a new life into the world. There is no way to avoid it.

There is an age gap between my DSis and I, (I am the older) and I love it. I remember so much from my DM's pregnancy and DSis's early years.
As PP said, your DC doesn't know any different. I wouldn't let them be the deciding factor but I would definitely involve them in (age appropriate) discussions.

DH was 40 when we discovered our surprise pregnancy. It is what it is, and we deal with it accordingly. For us, it was/is a very positive experience, even though I was unsure/worried throughout the pregnancy.

Good luck!

AV2022 · 17/08/2022 12:28

Thanks for all the positive responses. I guess I am not the only one. Did anyone have the second one and then regret it? I wonder having two aging parents wouldn’t be fair to the the new baby especially if parents are unsure if they are wanted or not.

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Pickledlemo · 17/08/2022 12:33

I had my first at 37, second at 40 and third at 42.All babies are healthy.We are more financially secure and the DC adore the youngest.Sending you best wishes.

MassiveSalad22 · 17/08/2022 12:36

I know someone who had a surprise baby at 52. Grown up now and it all worked out beautifully. It’s not a given that there will be problems but of course do what you must xx

AV2022 · 18/08/2022 01:22

@Jamaisy82 and @Pheepa wish you best of luck with your pregnancy and enjoy your time with your new babies!

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Pheepa · 18/08/2022 07:51

@AV2022 thank you, we had our 20 week scan yesterday, all was well thankfully and I can feel him kicking now so it’s all a bit more real and exciting. I hope you manage to make the right decision for you and your family and that they support you through. I’m sure they will x

Jamaisy82 · 18/08/2022 12:48

@AV2022 thanks 3 weeks left today till I go for my elective section. Had emergency first time round. Excited, scared and still can't believe I'm having another child ha. Good luck with everything.

Happyhappyday · 19/08/2022 05:15

Just wanted to say, I very much didn’t want a second one, talked myself into it after 3 years (took 18 months to have DC first time so back of mind figured I wouldn’t get pregnant again and we could give up having “tried”) got pregnant immediately, freaked out, miscarried. Got pregnant again immediately because, Magical thinking means I won’t freak out the second time?! Completely freaked out again and after a lot of counseling had an abortion a couple weeks ago at about 8 weeks. We absolutely COULD have had a second child, and it mightve been fine, but when it really came down to it, I just DID NOT WANT to. So we didn’t. I made a mistake thinking I’d change my mind and that was foolish, but i don’t have to pay for that mistake for the rest of my life.

Anon778833 · 19/08/2022 06:39

My youngest is 2 - she was born when I was 39 and my oldest is 20. I’m very thankful for her although I’ve definitely spoiled her because she’s by far the youngest. 🙈

AV2022 · 19/08/2022 12:08

@Happyhappyday Thank you for your honest response. If you don’t mind sharing may I ask what your hesitation was? In my case it’s the age gap, our ages and the possible health and financial implications of our ages. Thank you!

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Happyhappyday · 19/08/2022 16:30

@AV2022 I am happy to talk about it, it's part of my therapy! I had always assumed we would have 2 kids (I have a sibling, DH has 2 sibs, most of my friends growing up were two child households). We had a pretty hard time conceiving DC 1, 2 miscarriages and about 18 months in total. I had a not great labor, was induced and DC was in distress right before born so also not great. I had PND, an infected episiotomy, a hormone imbalance leading to 9 months of insomnia etc. etc. so not a great start. I also had a reasonably difficult time adjusting initially to motherhood, although by about a year I was very happy we had a DC but still felt I didn't want another. I felt A LOT of pressure from society, family, all my friends having at least 2 DC etc so it's been on my mind pretty much constantly since I gave birth. Earlier this year I kind of managed to talk myself into thinking we could solve all my fears which were mainly:

  • Having a disabled child, this is statistically very unlikely but was a big source of anxiety because of how badly I think I would cope with it, and a deep fear that I would regret a child if they had a disability that severely impacted our family's lives.
  • Baby not sleeping, DC 1 was a magical sleeper and I barely coped, having a bad sleeper felt like it would break me.
  • Money - DH and I are both high earners well into 6 figures, but both have big savings goals and live pretty conservatively within our means, I often feel anxious about money. So while on paper, we can totally afford another DC, I was anxious about the impact to our lifestyle (ie, saving 50% of our income, at least one long haul holiday a year, being able to afford supporting a good food chain, DC in a nursery we really like etc). With DC 1 we have had a nanny since I went back to work after mat leave and that's been really wonderful, but it's cost close to £4K/month and that would not be affordable second time around.
  • To some extent space in our home, we have a 4 bed house but a pretty small outside space, coming back to money, on paper we can afford about 2x the mortgage we have so could buy a bigger house with a yard (DH and I both WFH full time so do kind of need additional rooms) but we both want to pay the mortgage off early, save for a retirement where we don't see a dip in lifestyle etc. We also want to be able to live ok on one income in case something happens and someone is long term unemployed etc so essentially one whole income is surplus.
  • My personal time, DH and I currently have a great balance, we both work full time but have very relaxed, well paying jobs. I have plenty of time to do my own hobbies, while also actively wanting to spend most of the weekend with DC and not really feeling like I need a break because the weekdays are just not stressful. Dinner is never a rush, taking her to school is relaxed, we just get a pretty chill life.
Honestly though, the final reason is the main one, we have a GOOD life right now, we are happy, DC is happy, we are financially stable. I don't have a deep desire to have another child, I feel like society/friends/family think I should (whether or not they do is a different matter of course!) but I DON'T want to. And that is reason enough not to. It would have been really easy to get swept up into the excitement of prenatal appointments and getting out the baby clothes and everyone else around me feeling excited. But I was just looking for outs, ie, maybe at the 12 week scan there won't be a heart beat, maybe the fetus will have a non viable defect etc. Not the thoughts of someone excited to add to their family.

So I talked myself into thinking it was a good idea, went off birth control and immediately got pregnant. I was basically in non stop tears until I miscarried around 6 weeks. Got pregnant again because... it was really stupid, I saw a really kind midwife who says everyone has magical thinking around their fertility, thinking things will be different, you won't get pregnant/you will etc. I think I thought I wouldn't get pregnant again, or if I did, I would miscarry and then I could sort of tell society that I had TRIED to have a second kid, but woe is me, I had 4 miscarriages so I am ALLOWED to stop. Which is really stupid, but that's where my head was.

A big part of what I had to struggle to get over when deciding to terminate was feeling shame over the decision - it often feels like it is portrayed in the media as something that teenage girls, or people without enough resources to be able to support an additional child need to choose. Not mid thirties, wealthy, very well educated women who are in stable marriages.

Happy to talk more if that feels helpful for you, whatever you decide, I have felt really alone because I don't know anyone else who even considered going through this although the reality is most terminations ARE for women who are older and already have DC, not teenagers. But that group is the quietest.

AV2022 · 19/08/2022 17:19

@Happyhappyday thanks for opening up. I totally understand what you are saying. I have thought of consultation but not sure who to contact. I wish there was like a checklist or a list of questions that someone could ask themselves before taking such a big decision :(

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Happyhappyday · 19/08/2022 18:02

I definitely found therapy really helpful - unfortunately I live abroad so I don't have any advice on how to access services, other than I would suggest reaching out to your midwives, I found mine really helpful. I would also google peri natal mental health therapy - that was also how I found someone to talk to. While I was not pressured in any way to make a decision to terminate, I did find it helpful that I talked to 4 or 5 different healthcare providers through the process an all of them independently said, it seems really clear what you want to do here, you're just having a hard time coming to terms with it.

If you do have any questions about the actual procedure, please let me know. That was a big part of it for me too, i still have trouble saying "I had an abortion", despite being very pro choice. There are a few different options where I am and as I got further into thinking, I realized some of my anxiety was around that, the different types etc. so working through that helped to, to solidify what was just nervousness about an unknown procedure.

Scorpio8 · 19/08/2022 18:06

I'm 39 and pregnant and have a 15 year old it quite a shock when it's been a long time since your pregnant. I am due February.

AV2022 · 19/08/2022 18:46

@Scorpio8 congratulations and wish you all the best! How does your family feel about starting all over? Mine is not so enthusiastic :(

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AV2022 · 19/08/2022 18:46

@Happyhappyday have sent you a private message. Hope that is ok.

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Scorpio8 · 19/08/2022 21:33

@AV2022

I haven't told my mum and dad, stepmother. I guess it won't go down well

Each day hard talking to my mum on the phone and even my dad.

Next week they will know and dad is first.

Greenybluetowel · 19/08/2022 21:55

I had DC4 at 42, my older DC were 12, 14 & 15. Baby was planned as my 2nd marriage and DH (who was 44) had no children of his own. DC4 is now nearly 9. Life is good. The older DC love him to bits. 2 of them are now out of the house and he loves visiting them at their homes. As they all work they tend to spoil him. DH and I are now financially secure so he has a good life. I was hesitant due to the gap and my age but I needn't have worried, I couldn't imagine not having him. He keeps me young. Good Luck.

loulouljh · 19/08/2022 22:04

Had my second at 42. Planned after many miscarriages and fertility issues. No regrets whatsoever! Keeps you young as someone above said...I wish you luck!

jennyt82 · 19/08/2022 22:08

I had my surprise 4th at 39, there's 12 years between him and my eldest. There are moments when it's hard work with a toddler and 3 older ones but they all adore our youngest and he's just fitted in to our family, he completed us.