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Two empty sacs at 6 week ultrasound

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GirlMama21 · 16/01/2022 17:56

Hi all,

I had a MMC last year- only picked up in 11th week of pregnancy because had no bleeding, baby stopped growing at 8.5 weeks.

TTC since the mc, finally got a BFP last month. Had a private, early scan today as I felt worried about loss of symptoms, although didn't have raging ones to begin with. The scan showed two empty gestational sacs. The sonographer said it was either a case of an early loss of a twin pregnancy, or less likely, I could be less far along than I thought. I was 6 weeks + 1 today, going by LMP.

I am trying to cling onto any sort of hope...did anyone have an early scan at 6 weeks (or early first trimester) and see an empty sac, but go on to have a successful pregnancy?

Thanks xx

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Twixie2022 · 09/02/2022 13:56

Aww I’m heartbroken for you OP. I’m so sorry. They will always be apart of you. Please look after yourself and give yourself time to heal best you can. Thinking of you and sending lots of love Flowers

SunnydaleHSAlumna · 09/02/2022 14:02

I'm so sorry OP Flowers Sending you lots of love xx

TheCountessOfGrantham · 09/02/2022 14:12

I'm sorry. Bless your tiny babies and your poor broken heart. I hope you find the strength from somewhere to bear this grief again. Xx

bearlyactive · 09/02/2022 14:28

I'm so so sorry Flowers

cafedesreves · 09/02/2022 15:24

@GirlMama21 Im just so so so sorry.

Sending so much love at this awful time.

wingingit33 · 09/02/2022 15:47

Thinking of you. It's awful. I had two mmc last year (I had erpc not mva though which I would recommend). Time really is a healer and make sure you allow yourself time to deal with it in whichever way works for you; there really is no right or wrong. As just an example of light at the end of the tunnel, I'm now 36+5 and I know it'll be your turn soon Thanks

Funauntienowmummytobe · 09/02/2022 17:00

So sorry to hear your news 💐

Jingleballsjellyballs · 09/02/2022 18:38

Oh I'm so sorry Sad I had everything crossed for you. I hope the next few weeks go as smoothly as possible

SantoPalo · 09/02/2022 19:57

So sorry to hear this OP. Sending you big hugs x

RedPandaFluff · 09/02/2022 23:50

Ahhhh no, @GirlMama21 . . . I was hoping and hoping you'd have good news. I'm so sorry, how incredibly sad Thanks

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GirlMama21 · 10/02/2022 23:06

Thank you everyone, your well wishes are so touching ❤.

Going through a mix of emotions after yesterday confirmed the worst- anger, resentment, grief, helplessness, but I know with time it will pass and become less painful, unfortunately I have been here before so know how it is 💔.

I'm booked in for the MVA on Monday, but tonight I felt some contraction type pains and now more constant period type pains so I hope I can hold on until then...seems like my body has finally realised it's holding onto two failed pregnancies and it's time to let it go...

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GirlMama21 · 10/02/2022 23:11

@wingingit33

Thinking of you. It's awful. I had two mmc last year (I had erpc not mva though which I would recommend). Time really is a healer and make sure you allow yourself time to deal with it in whichever way works for you; there really is no right or wrong. As just an example of light at the end of the tunnel, I'm now 36+5 and I know it'll be your turn soon Thanks
@wingingit33 I haven't been offered the choice of an ERPC. How does it differ from the MVA?

I found the MVA absolutely horrific last time and at one point near the end of the procedure I was in and out of consciousness, but the reason I am opting for it again over natural/medical management is that the recovery was much easier and quicker than what I've heard about the former two. Also I have a bleeding disorder- slow to clot once I start bleeding- so the idea of bleeding out over a few weeks is terrifying and potentially unsafe for me.

Hope you continue to have a safe and healthy pregnancy Flowers x

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wingingit33 · 11/02/2022 08:10

@GirlMama21 an mva you're awake, an erpc you're asleep. Everyone I know who had the former found it totally traumatic whereas the erpc is done in 20mins and you're none the wiser

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GirlMama21 · 11/02/2022 08:39

[quote wingingit33]@GirlMama21 an mva you're awake, an erpc you're asleep. Everyone I know who had the former found it totally traumatic whereas the erpc is done in 20mins and you're none the wiser [/quote]
Oh I see, thanks for clarifying @wingingit33.
I actually asked about being able to have a general anaesthetic last time and they said they don't offer it so was refused 😔. My local hospital only offers medical management or MVA, they gave me the same options this time round. Maybe it depends on where you live, doesn't seem very fair, but it rarely is 🙁. Right now I'm just hoping I can hang on for the bloody MVA....already starting to get horrible flashbacks to last time. Plus I asked them this time if I could have hubs with me and they refused saying it's still not allowed due to covid, whereas partners are allowed in for the routine 12 and 20 week scans now at the same hospital. Feel like care for women who have lost their babies is substandard, like we're just a problem to get rid of as soon as possible ☹.
Yep, feeling sorry for myself atm....

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itssquidstella · 11/02/2022 10:17

@GirlMama21 so sorry to hear this. I had two MVAs last year and also found them really traumatic, but the second one was better because I demanded stronger painkillers (they only gave me paracetamol and ibuprofen the first time, but I got codeine the second time). I also made them give me gas and air: the consultant was adamant that this was against policy initially but I stood my ground and one of the nurses backed me up. It definitely took the edge off.

I agree that care for women who've miscarried can be pretty unfeeling; DH wasn't allowed to be with me for either procedure, which he found really hard too.

Do push for stronger pain relief if you think you need it x

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GirlMama21 · 14/02/2022 09:23

[quote itssquidstella]@GirlMama21 so sorry to hear this. I had two MVAs last year and also found them really traumatic, but the second one was better because I demanded stronger painkillers (they only gave me paracetamol and ibuprofen the first time, but I got codeine the second time). I also made them give me gas and air: the consultant was adamant that this was against policy initially but I stood my ground and one of the nurses backed me up. It definitely took the edge off.

I agree that care for women who've miscarried can be pretty unfeeling; DH wasn't allowed to be with me for either procedure, which he found really hard too.

Do push for stronger pain relief if you think you need it x[/quote]
Yes @itssquidstella, I was only given paracetamol and ibuprofen last time too. They have given me codeine too this time.

Have just had my meds so they'll wait an hour for them to kick in before taking me in. Feel sick with nerves because I know what to expect this time 😪.

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itssquidstella · 14/02/2022 09:37

@GirlMama21 thinking of you today. Can you download an episode of something to watch on your phone whilst you wait?

RedPandaFluff · 19/02/2022 09:37

How are you, @GirlMama21?

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GirlMama21 · 19/02/2022 10:40

@RedPandaFluff

How are you, *@GirlMama21*?
Dear @RedPandaFluff...was literally having a bit of a breakdown just now when this message caused a ping on my phone...I can't tell you how much that random act of kindness means to me ❤.

The MVA itself on Monday was awful as expected, but I actually thought I was recovering ok after a difficult first couple of days. Then yesterday things took a bit of a nosedive, pains came back stronger and bleeding got heavier again. Don't have a fever or any other symptoms so hoping it's not an infection/retained tissue. Monday wasn't all that long ago so maybe it's just a bit early to be expecting to be fine, especially as we've just moved house at the same time so not really been able to take it easy as I normally would have.

Tbh I think the hormone dive is the thing that is really affecting me at the moment; my mc last year was very raw, I cried a lot, spoke about how heartbroken I felt, think it was a coping mechanism. This time around I've barely mentioned it let alone cried and just tried to soldier on since the MVA...think it's finally catching up with me. DH came up just now to find me in floods of tears while I was meant to be having a lie down with a hot water bottle to ease what feels like stabbing pains 🙁.

I know I'll get through it as I have before, but I guess I just feel emotionally and physically exhausted atm. Also it's so sudden with surgical management for a mmc...have moments when I have to remind myself I'm no longer pregnant with these much longed for babies, causes my breath to stop in my throat for a second 😢.

My thoughts are with every mother who has ever experienced a loss 💔, hope time is kinder to us all.

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RedPandaFluff · 21/02/2022 14:55

Oh my goodness you poor thing Sad

Were you able to rest over the weekend? I hope the pains settled down . . . I have to say, that did worry me a bit when I read it just now, I'm wondering if it has eased by this point? If not, it sounds like you need to get checked out. I don't think an emotional recovery is possible until the physical stuff has run its course so I'm not surprised you're still emotional and upset. Surgical management feels a bit brutal, both physically and mentally, I think; as you said yourself, it's going to take time Thanks

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GirlMama21 · 22/02/2022 21:08

Better than before @RedPandaFluff. Still have pains, but becoming less frequent, which ties in with my previous experience of the MVA.

Emotionally a bit better too, although have now managed to pick up viral tonsillitis so that adds to the fun 🙄.

Thank you for caring enough to ask Flowers xx

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RedPandaFluff · 22/02/2022 23:19

Oh no! Tonsillitis is grim, that's the last thing you need! You sound a bit brighter, in spite of that; hopefully you're through the worst of it, physically.

I wondered if you're thinking of doing anything in the babies' memory? I found that really helped me. It's such a cliché but I planted a little tree in our garden; didn't tell anyone, even DH, it was a private thing just for me. We moved eventually but in my head it's still there, flourishing. I don't know why it helped a little, but it did. Not for everyone though, I'd imagine.

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