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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Early scan confusion

29 replies

Tsuki · 13/11/2021 01:37

Hi, just wondering if anyone can offer any experience/advise on confusion following my early scan yesterday. I got my BFP on 21st October, though the line was very faint and confirmed with a digital on 22nd. I think conception was 10th October. This should make me 6w4d at the scan.

Whilst there she said the pregnancy was 'less than 5 or 6 weeks' (and wouldn't give any more clarification than that), that there was a gestational sac measuring 2mm and a yolk sac which she showed us. She put a date on the report of 4w4d. The scan was transvaginal.

I'm going back in 2 weeks but I'm so confused and so worried. The dates she gave don't make sense to me as it would mean I didn't conceive until after my BFP? Also going overdrive on Google has shown me that a 2mm sac would be 4w and 4w4d should be at least 5mm, and that a yolk sac shouldn't be visible on a scan until 5.5w. ??

I'm so confused. I know I should wait and there's nothing I can do if it's a missed miscarriage but I'm overthinking everything. The sonographer was a bit dismissive and said everything looked 'as it should' but that I just must have my dates wrong, but I don't think I can have them /that/ out.

Anyone with a similar experience? Sorry for rambling.

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Fredsgirl19 · 13/11/2021 01:51

Try not to panic. When they are looking at something so so tiny it's hard to get exact measurements.

Now sometimes if measurements are off it can be an indication that the pregnancy will fail BUT you have to consider how small it is at the moment plus you have good HCG levels to pick up on a digital. The likelihood is that dates / size will have corrected themselves when you go back. This is why they don't like to scan too early as the margin for error in exact measurements is too high.

Hard as it is try and relax for now and remain positive

BorderlineBob · 13/11/2021 02:00

Pregnancy is dated from the date of your last period rather than the day of ovulation (apologies if you know this, I'm not trying to be condesecending) so if you're calculating from the date of conception, it is likely to be a week or two out.
Try not to panic, (easier said than done, I know), you can't change the outcome either way so try not to let it overtake you. Hopefully all will be well at your next scan and it's just a mix up with dates.
I will be thinking of you and hoping for you Flowers

Tsuki · 13/11/2021 08:32

Thanks both. I know I just have to wait, it just feels so hard and especially with the confusion about what we actually saw on the scan. (E.g. I don't know if we would have seen the yolk if the GS was 2mm, etc but it felt like we were in and out so fast.)

My LMP was actually 13th September which I know is way off due to long cycles so I've been working on ovulation +14 days back. :/

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Evianontoast · 13/11/2021 16:21

I can't say much on this, sorry, but one HUGE bit of advice I'd give is STOP GOOGLING. I learned the hard way and I know it's really difficult. You can get yourself in a right middle if you read things on the internet and then hear different things. The number of times in my pregnancy I've seen/felt/been told something and googled it and convinced myself I'm having a miscarriage - honestly, too many to count. Once I stopped googling, I felt a lot better.

I hope everything goes well for you Thanks

feliznavidad2 · 13/11/2021 16:41

Hey @Tsuki

Just to say you're not alone! I also had a scan yday after getting my BFP on 29th Oct and they said I was 4-5 weeks, showed sac and yolk sac but no embryo.

I know I'm nearer 6 weeks as otherwise I'd have found out I was pregnant when I was about 2 weeks preggo... 🤔

So all we can do is try and stay positive and wait and see. If there was an obvious issue, they would have said and I've since read that the ability to measure that closely at this stage is so open to error, as a single mm can make such a difference in terms of dates.

Happy to wait with you until our repeat scans. Sending a handhold.

Onebabyandamadcat · 13/11/2021 16:56

Don't have any advice but just wanted to add I'm in a similar situation. Scan today dated me 5+4 but I'm 6+5 going by LMP. The sonographer did say that if everything looks ok don't worry too much about dates at this stage as you're dealing with mm and less so it's easy to mis-measure/difficult to get an exact measurement.

My googling had also reminded me that conception doesn't always happen when you think ie you might conceive a few days after sex depending on ovulation and such like.

I say all this as I've also started. A thread desperately seeking positive stories from people who have been in similar situations so I know it's so hard not to worry. I'm happy to keep you company while we sit and wait. Positive vibes to us all

feliznavidad2 · 14/11/2021 11:58

Sending solidarity @Onebabyandamadcat 👊

shas19 · 14/11/2021 12:25

I'm currently 31 weeks but my first scan I thought I should of been about 5 weeks. They put me at about 3-4 and to come back in 2 weeks. Went back and still couldn't see much other than a sac and a yolk so back in a week again. When I went back they put me at 8+4. Try not to worry

bluejelly · 14/11/2021 12:28

Sorry you're feeling so anxious ThanksTry and think of all the millions, probably billions of women who have had successful, healthy pregnancies without knowing exactly when they conceived or having access to scans. Sometimes I think the technology we have access to makes us worry more than we should.

Onebabyandamadcat · 14/11/2021 17:59

I agree with @bluejelly. Was talking to DH today. The only reason I know what this pregnancy is measuring is because I had an early scan due to spotting. That spotting is now easing and the pregnancy looks good apart from measuring 8 days behind. If I hadn't had that scan and hadn't had the bleeding then I'd be none the wiser. I didn't have any early scans with my DD - who's to say she wasn't also measuring wrong at this stage but I just didn't know.

Doing reading over the past few days, I really think it's hard to accurately measure a very early pregnancy - they are tiny, they aren't solid masses so sometimes aren't totally picked up by ultrasound and they grow at such a quick rate that they will measure a totally different size the next day.

I'm trying to stay positive

twobcomthree · 14/11/2021 18:01

Hi ladies

Jumping on this thread to say that I'm also in a similar position (first time pregnant here so totally new to all this!!)
, I went for an early private scan on Friday where I put myself at 7 weeks according to LMP.

At the scan they found a gestational sac but no yolk or fetal pole. They said to me this was classed as a pregnancy with unknown location and could be one of three things: a missed misscarriage, an ectopic pregnancy (athough rare) or I could simply be earlier than I thought and therefore too early to see anymore! I came away feeling gutted and covinced my dates were right, I felt like this must have been a missed miscarriage. The private clinic advised me To take a pregnancy test the following day (which I did= strong positive) and then to contact my local epu arrange an appointment with them to investigate things further.
Unlucky for me as they are closed all weekend so having to wait until Monday (tomorrow)!

However in addition to this I started spotting on Friday which progressed to bleeding like a normal period saturday and still today 😣 To me this isn't a great sign and i've convinced myself it is indeed a miscarriage but I will still follow up with EPU tomorrow and see what scans/bloods say.

I will keep you updated but hope it all works out for you on here 💞

Onebabyandamadcat · 14/11/2021 18:07

Good luck @twobcomthree I hope you get answers tomorrow. I've been in that position before (in September this year) and it's utterly torture. If you want to talk feel free to PM me

twobcomthree · 14/11/2021 18:19

Thank you so much @Onebabyandamadcat 💜

I'm new to mumsnet not entirely sure how to PM someone😆- do I have to be a premium member?

In my heart i've accepted the fact that the scan + bleeding this weekend is sadly not looking good and i've come to terms with that over the weekend. We actually fell pregnant the first time TTC and I am focusing on the positives of that, and grateful that we were able to conceive naturally. Xx

Onebabyandamadcat · 14/11/2021 18:30

I'm not actually sure if I have but I think sent you a message. You need to be on the browser rather than app and go to the account but and there's an option for private messages

Onebabyandamadcat · 18/11/2021 15:58

How's everyone doing?

Cruz86 · 18/11/2021 19:04

Hi all, not really a thread I want to join but here I am 😞 Went for a private scan on Monday when I should've been 7 weeks but was measured at 5w4d with no heartbeat. I've really been trying to stay positive but I just can't help but think the worst. When do you all have your follow up scans? Hope you're all okay x

Onebabyandamadcat · 18/11/2021 19:29

Oh @Cruz86 I'm sorry - welcome to the club no one wants to be part of.

My follow up is tomorrow. I'm swinging wildly between hope and despair and ultimately just want to know one way or the other as the second guessing is killing me

Cruz86 · 18/11/2021 19:36

Ohh tomorrow. Good luck @Onebabyandamadcat. Is it in the morning? Apart from the dates, did they say everything else was expected for the date they gave you?

feliznavidad2 · 18/11/2021 20:01

Good luck for tomorrow @Onebabyandamadcat x

feliznavidad2 · 18/11/2021 20:03

👋🏻 @Cruz86 hopefully we'll all be in a much more relaxed place following our repeat scans x

Onebabyandamadcat · 18/11/2021 20:06

Everything looked good for the date they gave me but the reason I had the scan was because I'd been spotting for a week and a half and had a previous missed miscarriage. The spotting has since calmed down so I'm hoping all is well but also fairly certain it's another miscarriage

twobcomthree · 18/11/2021 20:31

Hey everyone,

Unfortunately it wasn't good news for me on Monday and confirmed early miscarriage. But i'm ok😌

Wish you all the best for your appointments this week. Take care💖

Onebabyandamadcat · 18/11/2021 20:39

I'm so sorry @twobcomthree be kind to yourself and take one step at a time

Cruz86 · 18/11/2021 20:55

I hope so @feliznavidad2! Feeling quite crampy tonight though 😩

Ah I see @Onebabyandamadcat. Got everything crossed for you for good news tomorrow. Let us know how you get on.

I'm so sorry to hear that @twobcomthree. Look after yourself ❤️

feliznavidad2 · 18/11/2021 20:56

I'm so sorry to hear that @twobcomthree Thanks