*unvaccinated* Will my husband be allowed if I go into labour? (currently isolating due to contact)

[Mysleepingangel]

Hi

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post but here goes.
I'm 37 weeks pregnant and recently had to go into hospital to have my cervical suture removed and stayed until yesterday (24 hrs).
I've just been contacted by the ward to say that someone tested positive for covid there and that I must isolate until 31st

I'm just worried that if I go into labour, will they allow my husband in? Its very likely that I will in the next week or so, obviously can't be 100% sure. Also I'm unvaccinated.

Any experiences appreciated x

I wouldn't dream of getting this vaccination whilst pregnant either.

We're told to avoid alcohol, but a vaccine with absolutely NO long term data on its safety - sure..whack it into a baby still inside.

No no no no!

OP - keep safe.

Must say it's a relief to hear so many people saying there is no long term data for the vaccine and that they are holding out, reminds me I'm not alone in my own decision! I'm pregnant (first trimester), unvaccinated and have got 2 days left of isolation after getting covid last week. It was just like a flu, and not even a particularly bad one. I now just have a blocked nose. That said, everyone is different and so must make the decision for themselves. The amount of coercion and fear mongering being displayed in this thread is the last thing a mum to be needs!

Glad to hear it'll be possible for you to have your husband there - that's way more important than your vaccination status.

@RT65 I had it at 15 weeks but double vaccinated pre pregnancy. Consultant obstetrician still prescribed me ten days of fragmin injections which seems to be standard treatment for covid in pregnancy now. Glad to hear you're on the mend.

@toadstool32

20% of those on ventilators are unvaccinated pregnant women. Go today op.

You mean ecmo machines, not ventilators www.rcog.org.uk/en/news/rcog-supports-calls-from-nhs-to-pregnant-women-to-get-vaccinated-against-covid-19/

There's only something like 15 in the UK, so your post is misleading

You don't need expertise to know that there is no long term data on Covid vaccines on pregnant women.

You do need expertise to know whether that is a meaningful statement.

On the rare occasions that vaccines have significant long term effects they show up quickly. These types of vaccines do have long term data.

It's not that there is no possibility of any side effects at all, it's that we know the risks of Covid while pregnant are substantial and we know the risks of the vaccine are much lower.

Must say it's a relief to hear so many people saying there is no long term data for the vaccine and that they are holding out

Lots of people believe the world is flat. Lots of people believe global warming is a conspiracy. Lots of people think the moon landings are fake and mobile phones cause cancer. If everyone in the world believed something silly it wouldn't make it true.

@donquixotedelamancha

P.S. I still think OP is perfectly reasonable to make the choice she has, especially as data on pregnancy risk has evolved over the last 40 weeks.

Still, I think getting a first jab now would be a smart move now.

The data has shown for some time that pregnant women are at massively higher risk if they get covid. I really hope that you are ok op, and that you can get vaccinated if possible.

@toadstool32 Oh that's interesting, looks like it's a blood thinner? So glad you recovered and baby is doing fine.

I spoke to my GP and they advised me to just take paracetamol. They seemed very nonchalant about it if I'm honest and were more concerned with dehydration as I was so thirsty. GP insisted on a urine sample (that was fine) and that was it, I've had a fairly easy ride with it. Now I'm almost fully recovered, the morning sickness seems to have returned with a vengeance though!

The data has shown for some time that pregnant women are at massively higher risk if they get covid.

Obviously I agree (and made the same point above). I meant that it's understandable that not everyone follows the data carefully, or even can. Also, when the absolute risk of covid is relatively small it makes sense to be cautious about a new vaccine when pregnant. Still, you are right- the jury is in now and medical advice is very clear.

@donquixotedelamancha

You don't need expertise to know that there is no long term data on Covid vaccines on pregnant women.

You do need expertise to know whether that is a meaningful statement.

On the rare occasions that vaccines have significant long term effects they show up quickly. These types of vaccines do have long term data.

It's not that there is no possibility of any side effects at all, it's that we know the risks of Covid while pregnant are substantial and we know the risks of the vaccine are much lower.

Must say it's a relief to hear so many people saying there is no long term data for the vaccine and that they are holding out

Lots of people believe the world is flat. Lots of people believe global warming is a conspiracy. Lots of people think the moon landings are fake and mobile phones cause cancer. If everyone in the world believed something silly it wouldn't make it true.

Can you define long term?

I have treated pregnant women on ECMO as well as women who have had premature labour or had to have delivery of their baby early to allow treatment such as proning to try and prevent them getting to needing ECMO.

We had to massively expand the number of ECMO beds to cope with demand from all patients needing it with COVID - in the second wave we did everything we could to make as many ECMO beds as possible. The data is even clearer that there are a high number of pregnant women needing this support and this is alarming.

This isn’t just being ventilated, which has enough complications associated with it. This is huge tubes being placed into blood vessels and blood being passed through a machine to put oxygen in and remove carbon dioxide. It requires blood thinners to be given and for the most specialist of teams to be caring for the patient.

I would urge any pregnant women to get vaccinated without hesitation. I have urged loved ones who are pregnant to do so. Some of the posts on here make me so angry because I have seen women die, women lose their babies, women who will never return to the life they had before because of complications of this virus and the treatment needed to keep them alive. It breaks my heart. Some posters should be ashamed of themselves for spreading lies. They won’t be, but I won’t stop advocating because it is the right thing to do.

The posters on this thread telling you to get vaccinated are disgusting OP. Ignore them.

The fact that a positive case was identified in the ward should not in any way prevent husbands coming into hospital with labouring women. Check with your local hospital to be sure but we have covid positive patients in our wards and visiting is still open as normal.

@Ralph871 I won’t be told I’m disgusting for promoting vaccination, how dare you. You are part of the problem.

Just leaving the excellent resources from the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists here www.rcog.org.uk/en/guidelines-research-services/guidelines/coronavirus-pregnancy/covid-19-virus-infection-and-pregnancy/

What’s disgusting about telling someone they should get the recommended vaccinations? I mean, I get that you might disagree, but I don’t understand what about suggesting someone follow the recommended vaccine protocol is “disgusting”?

The posters on this thread telling you to get vaccinated are disgusting OP.

The bastards will be telling OP not to smoke next.

It's not pleasant seeing an emcs on ITU followed by the death of the mother
That's not scaremongering, it's a fact

Get vaccinated, protect yourself and your baby

@Ralph871

The posters on this thread telling you to get vaccinated are disgusting OP. Ignore them.

The fact that a positive case was identified in the ward should not in any way prevent husbands coming into hospital with labouring women. Check with your local hospital to be sure but we have covid positive patients in our wards and visiting is still open as normal.

Disgusting? Really? For recommending the OP does something very important to protect herself and her baby? Gosh.

@countbackfromten

There is zero data on the long term effects of these vaccines.

Any pregnant woman choosing to be injected with an experimental vaccine (that is still only licensed for emergency use and not fully approved!) is taking a huge risk. Furthermore these vaccines don't even stop you contracting the virus!

I would love to see ACTUAL data on the number of pregnant women on ECMO. In fact I would love to see actual data on lots of things because the majority of what is reported is absolute BS. I would be willing to bet that the number of third trimester pregnant women requiring ventilation is not too dissimilar from the numbers we see during flu season.

@Ralph871 which is why the flu vaccine is recommended for pregnant women also

@Ralph871 I could provide you with studies and data until the cows come home but you would deny it all. I am an anaesthetist and intensive care doctor - we report data into ICNARC who publish it weekly. You can find the latest report here www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/77ca6dcc-5633-ec11-9137-00505601089b

@CampagVelocet

Yes disgusting. The OP did not ask for advice on vaccinations. The OP asked whether her husband would still be allowed in the hospital not whether mumsnetters thought she should get vaccinated, yet as always the bullshit brigade wade in with all their nonsense about 20% of ventilated patients in the UK being pregnant women which is absolute fucking nonsense.

OP has made a decision not to inject herself with an experimental vaccine whilst pregnant and it is her decision, no one else's.

@Ralph871 and it isn’t bullshit. Just because you think you know better doesn’t make it true.

[quote countbackfromten]@Ralph871 I could provide you with studies and data until the cows come home but you would deny it all. I am an anaesthetist and intensive care doctor - we report data into ICNARC who publish it weekly. You can find the latest report here www.icnarc.org/DataServices/Attachments/Download/77ca6dcc-5633-ec11-9137-00505601089b[/quote]
Well @countbackfromten has provided lots of data. So you try to read that and then see what you think.

Or alternatively you can get your facts from fools and conspiracy loons on Facebook.

Get your vaccination OP.

You presumably had the flu one and whooping cough.

This is no different.

“I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if something happened to this baby”

This statement (approx) by you, OP, has no connection to your decision to risk contracting coronavirus whilst pregnant. You clearly are deciding to take an enormous risk with yourself and your baby if this is what you have decided.

@RT65

Must say it's a relief to hear so many people saying there is no long term data for the vaccine and that they are holding out, reminds me I'm not alone in my own decision! I'm pregnant (first trimester), unvaccinated and have got 2 days left of isolation after getting covid last week. It was just like a flu, and not even a particularly bad one. I now just have a blocked nose. That said, everyone is different and so must make the decision for themselves. The amount of coercion and fear mongering being displayed in this thread is the last thing a mum to be needs!

Glad to hear it'll be possible for you to have your husband there - that's way more important than your vaccination status.

But if you're in your first trimester now, you had months when you could have been vaccinated before getting pregnant?