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Setting boundaries with partners family

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Amki90 · 24/02/2021 23:02

Hi all,

Expecting with my second and already am having drama with my partners family before the baby has even been born.

To give some background I suffered terribly with post natal depression after my son. I had a traumatic birth but the the main triggers were my inability to breastfeed and the overbearing incessant visits from my partners family. I’m a survivor of domestic abuse from a previous relationship so was monitored closely in my last pregnancy as apparently this can correlate with depression during pregnancy and post.

This time my pregnancy has been a much more positive affair, and I’ve actually enjoyed it at times. With not too long left my consultant and midwife suggested an action plan to minimise the triggers I felt previously. After lots of discussion and consideration I will be giving baby first feed but then trying my luck at exclusive pumping. I’m totally happy with that decision and am ready with formula if it doesn’t work.
Next up was the visits. Now I’m not exaggerating this was nothing short of hell. I napped once, ONCE, when my son was born and awoke to find 7 of my partners family in my lounge all passing my baby around. A baby I had established little bond with and was trying my hardest not to crumble. I’m not going to lie I wanted to scream at all of them but instead I sat their like a chump and let it happen whilst making everyone else tea. On other occasions his family would just turn up announced and stay for hours just getting in the way. His Nan even turned up whilst my midwives were checking my internal stitches for infection and chose to invite herself in and demand my son be brought to her in the spare room.

Well as I said this time I’m not having it. I’m a bit older and wiser and frankly I want a different experience this time. So as suggested by the consultant I constructed a text, she even said with COVID I have a good excuse if I’m especially worried.
I created what I thought was a well meaning and fair message.....

Hi all, thought it best to get in early if XXX early arrival was anything to go by. I really hope this doesn’t come off the wrong way because it’s not meant with any malice at all. As some of you may know I struggled quite badly with postnatal depression after DARLING SON. This time my midwife and consultant have advised I change approach and focus on the triggers I felt last time. So with that in mind, I wanted to ask that people wait to visit until asked after the baby is born. I was really overwhelmed after DARLING SON and with COVID too I’m quite anxious about it all. I’m scheduled for my section on the XX and been told to take it especially easy for those first 6 weeks. Please don’t think we’ve forgotten you but I would just love the 4 of us to bond and settle in for those weeks before opening the doors (but more likely windows) to visitors. I hope everyone understands and I’m so excited to share our new arrival in time xxx

Now, I also asked my partner if he was ok with this before I sent it and he agreed. In that moment I felt so supported by him and reassured, yes, this is a good thing. Well a few hours later his sister is in tears along with his mum and suddenly my partner is annoyed at me? She apparently felt the message was ‘unnecessary’ and really not what she wanted to receive after a long day. I was absolutely dumbfounded, how can anyone get annoyed at a message that essentially says “don’t turn up announced, I’d like us all to bind with our new baby”

His sister was previously the person I was closest to, but I feel this total lack of understanding and lack of respect is the cherry on top of me just giving up with them. I feel like I’m just viewed as a vessel to bear children to gift to his family to distract them from the stresses of every day life.

Has anyone else dealt with overbearing family members on their partners side and successfully set boundaries for the future?

OP posts:
BusyLizzie61 · 26/02/2021 11:45

@Amki90

I wouldn’t say it’s entitledness, if I that’s even a word. I really was following the advice of my consultant, this time I’ve been much more forthcoming and open with them whereas when pregnant with my son I swept everything under the rug and put on a brave face, with both family and medical practitioners. I’ve realised that didn’t work and in the long term made me worse, I truest didn’t start enjoying my son until he was 6 months old, so I’m trying to ensure I bond with the baby and keep my family unit ticking over without too much disruption to my son. My mum is coming to help once my partner has returned to work as he only has 1 week paternity and works nights so won’t be helping too much in the days. The rest of my family have been told the same message and fully respect that I’ve asked for distance. There has been no fall out or upset on my side. I will say mental health is a hard thing for others to grasp at times, it’s like a little black seed that’s once it’s been planted just keeps growing and growing. I would love to bond with my baby as quickly as some of the responders have but last time I just felt empty looking at this baby that had come from me. I didn’t want to hold him at all but equally I knew that was the only way we were going to get to know each other. I felt so jealous of everyone looking down at him smiling and cooing, I wanted to feel that happiness myself. Of course it might happen differently, no two experiences are ever the same but that’s why I wanted to have a bit of a plan just incase things don’t work out.
And you don't think that your mum staying from a week onwards would be unfair or lead to any feelings of resentment or second class feelings for the inlaws? Some of whom in your words have been a great support....

I don't think that any obstetrics consultant would feel able to have adviser you not to see them for 6 weeks! Days maybe. Even a week or two, not 6...

Sounds very much like you're alright Jack and you have your mum tbh!

Analysethat · 26/02/2021 11:45

So there it is in black and white - your mum gets to see baby after 1 week(okay to help you out) but you are treating one gran differently than another when baby is both yours and your partners.

Listen I’m not saying don’t set boundaries and I can imagine that being overwhelmed after giving birth isn’t easy(not looking forward to it myself) but I would NEVER ever set as harsh a boundary as you have.

It’s totally up to you and I get its your wishes but I’m surprised you are surprised at the fall out due to it.

ooohbriefcase · 26/02/2021 11:58

If the op is suffering with mental health the last thing she needs is a pile on. I think some comments need to tone down a bit. BUT I do think you are being a bit unfair op. Especially since your mum gets to see the baby after a week. 6 weeks is a long time to wait to meet a new baby.

Is any way you can just come to a compromise. Just 1 or 2 visits in the 6 weeks for a cup of tea. If they say or do anything to upset you have every right to ask them to leave in your own house. That can be avoided completely. Could you not go upstairs for a nap or rest, and just leave dh with them and the baby for a hour or so.. I've said to my dp if I'm not feeling up to it the day is parents come visit I'll go upstairs to rest and let them have their moment. If they think it's rude then tough, at least they get to see the baby. I get your suffering with mental health, I know how you feel it's horrible, but there has to be some middle ground somewhere.

DareIask · 26/02/2021 12:04

@Analysethat

So there it is in black and white - your mum gets to see baby after 1 week(okay to help you out) but you are treating one gran differently than another when baby is both yours and your partners.

Listen I’m not saying don’t set boundaries and I can imagine that being overwhelmed after giving birth isn’t easy(not looking forward to it myself) but I would NEVER ever set as harsh a boundary as you have.

It’s totally up to you and I get its your wishes but I’m surprised you are surprised at the fall out due to it.

Agree 100%.

Your poor in-laws.

Amki90 · 26/02/2021 12:26

My mum is solely there to help out she isn’t staying, she is going back to her house, she’s also 22 years younger than my MIL who at 78 isn’t sprightly or physically able to help out, my dad isn’t coming nor my brothers and sisters. My mum has also been my childcare bubble during COVID and is who my son has always been most comfortable with. My partner fully supports my mum be the person to come as he knows I need extra help whilst he is gone.

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SunnySideUp2020 · 26/02/2021 12:43

Well i guess the fact that your mum is allowed to visit/help can be seen as preferential treatment... and the in laws might feel excluded.
I guess you could find some compromise. Perhaps the family can come once when you feel ok after the birth, when your mum is around so she can help make tea etc...
Or your husband could take the baby out for a walk with his family on occasions in those 6 weeks?

MooreLew · 26/02/2021 12:45

I'm sorry OP but I think this is double standards. It is unfair for your in laws not to be able to see baby for 6 weeks, but your mother can? I could understand if you said no one to visit for a few weeks. I had PND myself and hated everyone bundling in them first few weeks and I do believe having to put on a brave face and entertain others contributed to my MH issues. 6 weeks is just unreasonable. 2 or 3 yes but no visitors at all. You will cause resentment between both families if you allow your mum to visit and not DH parents. You will also put him in a very difficult situation. I would suggest giving them a time after a few weeks to meet in a park or something to show them baby and advise no one is turning up at the house or arriving unannounced. I think you need to look at it from their perspective. I would be mortified if my son wouldn't let me see my grandchild, but his wife's parents could.

BusyLizzie61 · 26/02/2021 13:01

@Amki90

My mum is solely there to help out she isn’t staying, she is going back to her house, she’s also 22 years younger than my MIL who at 78 isn’t sprightly or physically able to help out, my dad isn’t coming nor my brothers and sisters. My mum has also been my childcare bubble during COVID and is who my son has always been most comfortable with. My partner fully supports my mum be the person to come as he knows I need extra help whilst he is gone.
So you say now....
Guineapigsarepigs · 26/02/2021 13:25

OP I can only assume that those calling you entitled are lucky enough to have so little understanding of your circumstances that they simply can't get it. You have no obligation to facilitate other people's wants in this situation. Your main obligation is to give yourself the best possible chance of staying well, because this is what your kids need. It is also what you need, because you matter and your health matters.

Have your mum there and don't feel guilty. I cannot imagine getting worked up about this if my DIL had been so ill in the past. I'd be sad but mostly glad that she was being sensible and taking her health seriously. The lack of empathy is shocking.

Guineapigsarepigs · 26/02/2021 13:52

Also, your in-laws might be disappointed and angry, but that isn't going to land them in hospital or have any permanent impact on their well-being. Whereas your feelings nearly did land you in hospital last time, not helped by their behaviour. From your description you were very ill. I can totally see why you want to create some mental protection in the first few weeks. It is fine to prioritise your health, even if the in-laws can't understand what is going on.

Babyjune21 · 26/02/2021 14:45

@Amki90 please don’t listen to any of these horrible comments these comments obviously come from those lucky enough not to have suffered the way you have ! Please don’t even reply to them ! Don’t think on it anymore ! I will not reply to any mean comments ! You are a wonderful mum

liltadpole · 26/02/2021 15:41

I was in your position as well but this time around I have learnt that I don't owe anyone anything. I think you're very kind and thoughtful though. You don't need to explain yourself op. Just say this is what's going to happen- short and sharp. Don't leave doors open for them to question or push boundaries because trust me they will.

I used to explain and explain but it got me no where, now I don't explain and just say no sorry. Your mental health is important but also your baby your rules.

Take care of yourself and good luck x

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 26/02/2021 15:45

I think its probably the 6 week thing thats a long time and a lot if change in a baby, saying no unannounced visits etc and limiting is different, and mentioning sticking purely to guidelines fair enough.
But if after a few days and you feel ok and your mil wanted to see baby outside for 5 mins , with your dh taking baby outside not you , I couldn't see the harm.
Or you may feel like a walk and could meet his sister , asking for space and arranged meet ups is fine , limiting for at least 6 weeks is prob what has upset them.
And if your dh mum came to front of your house what would stop your dh taking baby to window etc as its also his baby .

justilou1 · 27/02/2021 01:31

I would like to add that your feelings have been the bottom of your priority list for such a long time (You stated before that you “Swept everything under the rug.”) You can’t afford to do this ever again. Your DP obviously has form for this too... He doesn’t want to “Be the bad guy”. Well this time, it’s going to have to be his job, or you’re both going to get walked all over again and end up back where you were. You need to get him totally on board with actions, not just words.
I totally understand domineering relatives. Mine were like that.
(We’re talking my parents standing me up for baby’s first Christmas breakfast and present opening, then throwing a tantrum because I refused change the plans for the four other events we had on that day, affecting everyone else and coming around to show off the baby to Mum’s friends. *Turned out she’d planned this all along. Mum came over when she knew we had my husband’s relatives visiting, screamed abuse at me and hurled baby’s presents over the fence.)

mama2boysxx · 27/02/2021 22:57

Your poor in-laws. I dread this happening in the future, as I only have boys. Why must your MIL wait 6 weeks, when your mum is there everyday after a week?

This is so sad to read, and a worry for the future of us mums of boys

Threebecomesfour · 28/02/2021 05:20

Hey OP, I really feel for you. It sounds like you've been put through it over the last however long. We'll done for getting to a place where you're enjoying your pregnancy.
It's a real indicator of your in-laws character that in a message when you reference your PND and your coping strategies to make sure that doesn't happen again, they think about themselves.
It's really very, very common to dictate to all guests when (and how long) they stay. I'm 30 weeks and me and husband are coming with dates for when each set of family members can visit (his and mine!). And if they don't like it..... Errrrr that's their problem.
The only people that matter in those first few weeks are you four.
I hope you can enjoy what's left of the pregnancy and focus on that.
Best of luck xxx

Mummyof2Terrors · 28/02/2021 07:52

@mama2boysxx

Your poor in-laws. I dread this happening in the future, as I only have boys. Why must your MIL wait 6 weeks, when your mum is there everyday after a week?

This is so sad to read, and a worry for the future of us mums of boys

Or you could remember that if you ever become a Grandparent not to be an overbearing MIL who outstays their welcome for the first grandchild so it doesn't colour things for future grandchildren?

And yes, I have boys and I've made mental notes to never behave in the way some people behaved towards me with DS1.

Littlepaws18 · 28/02/2021 08:04

I think it's very much a perspective thing. You felt overwhelmed at the first visit of your son, but I would have taken it as a lovely, relaxed meeting of my baby with his family. Yes you are definitely overthinking it, but it is a good idea to put in boundaries and your message was fine except one point- 6 weeks! That's a huge amount of time to pass before they can see their grandchild. I reckon that is what they are upset about. Half that time is enough!

Try and see their 'interference' in a different light, they want to welcome their new member of the family. Don't view it with suspicion and dread.

May2021Mummy · 28/02/2021 12:13

@Threebecomesfour

Hey OP, I really feel for you. It sounds like you've been put through it over the last however long. We'll done for getting to a place where you're enjoying your pregnancy. It's a real indicator of your in-laws character that in a message when you reference your PND and your coping strategies to make sure that doesn't happen again, they think about themselves. It's really very, very common to dictate to all guests when (and how long) they stay. I'm 30 weeks and me and husband are coming with dates for when each set of family members can visit (his and mine!). And if they don't like it..... Errrrr that's their problem. The only people that matter in those first few weeks are you four. I hope you can enjoy what's left of the pregnancy and focus on that. Best of luck xxx
100% agree with this 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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