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Pregnant women included in high at risk for coronavirus uk what to do now!?

147 replies

NishaaS123 · 16/03/2020 18:52

So just saw Boris Johnson's conference said pregnant women are also added to the vulnerable group and should self isolate!? But what about working pregnant ladies what should they do!? I work for the MOJ which is a goverment department would they be more lenient towards me? What should I do? So confused still have 13 weeks to start maternity leave

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Hhdxx · 17/03/2020 09:30

@Sunnydays60 are we not suppose to start social distancing until this weekend? Xx

Sunnydays60 · 17/03/2020 09:43

@Hhdxx

If you watch this from about 1.45 he describes social distancing for everyone starting now (which includes working from home 'if possible') and says it's more important for pregnant women. At 3.30 he says 'In a few days time- by this coming weekend' we will need to go further and make sure the at risk groups are 'shielded' for up to 12 weeks. Again. Not isolated. So ambiguous Angry

HolsF28 · 17/03/2020 09:56

I called my midwife and they said to check the RCOG website later this afternoon as they're having meetings this morning and will update the information given to us.
Staying home for 3 months with a 2 year old seems like too much for me at the moment

Isthistrueor · 17/03/2020 10:17

I can only realistically self isolate for three months if they also close schools down because I have three primary school aged DC. If the schools are open and they have to go then I have to take them, DH can only really take them to breakfast club in the morning but he can’t collect them and we have no relatives or friends who can help.

If they close the schools down for the same amount of time then fair enough, otherwise I can’t do it. Well, not unless I keep them off school against government advice anyway.

Isthistrueor · 17/03/2020 10:17

Plus it seems totally futile being in lockdown mode when your DH is still going to work and DC still going to school...

YukoandHiro · 17/03/2020 10:25

The advice is totally confusing. I'm only 9 weeks so 20 weeks til I can take mat leave to solve childcare crisis etc. This is not going to be an easy year

Piper1879 · 17/03/2020 10:35

I'm 16 weeks , I work in a private opticians , my boss won't even let me have time off for antenatal appointments without a full blown argument so I doubt he'll let me self isolate for 12 weeks 😩

Persiaclementine · 17/03/2020 10:38

I've just told my work that I'm pregnant, as they had asked me to do some extra hours and they phoned me back and told me I've got to stay off, so best to tell them and see what they say, should say I work in a school

Abbyd222 · 17/03/2020 10:44

I'm keeping mine at home from today and have told the school which was very supportive and said it's fine and I won't get fined or anything. I have a garden which I will let kids out in loads of recycling to make stuff out off arts and crafts ect and looking at it as spending some quality time with my kids. Partner still going work this week however probably not next week but he's taking all advice and changing clothes shower ect before he gets in to reduce risk as much as possible this may not completly reduce it but we are doing what we can then hopefully I've given birth in the next few weeks covid free! I'm lucky I suppose that I havent got long left feeling for people who are earlier. But you should all be fine to keep your kids off school they aren't going to fine people for it I highly doubt. Partners may still have to go work yes but minimise risk as much as you can kids school are the biggest risk.

bwSB · 17/03/2020 11:02

Is there anyone on here that works for the nhs? I see a lot of teachers & office workers are getting told to isolate yet us Nhs workers are being told to still work despite being the ones at a higher risk?

Avearage · 17/03/2020 11:11

So many of my friends.... Ppl I know who are pregnant have been sent home from work yet my boss just can't help them selves head in the sand..... Not sure what I even say 😳

Steph2904 · 17/03/2020 11:25

Hello I called my doctors this morning and they told me to call 111 I haven't yet. I haven't had any symptoms but worried for me and my baby. I work in a hospital and the cornovirus is already at the hospital up the road and the porters sometimes go there and then come back. So I work in a high risk area I'm not sure what to do my partner has told me to stay off work and I have to get the bus to and from work. The people in the hospital aren't exactly the cleanest people even though there cleaners. I'm not sure what to do but I don't want my baby being at risk or me because I won't be long before the hospital I work in someone might get it. And a lot of people just carrying on working even if they are ill.

Hhdxx · 17/03/2020 11:31

@bwSB we've not been told not to work, it's just because my boss is being nice and supportive especially as children have symptoms. Schools are trying their best to stay open to support hospitals etc so childcare doesn't become an issue.

AliasGrape · 17/03/2020 11:40

I teach, am 20 weeks pregnant and also have asthma (mild and well controlled though). I’m only on a supply contract currently so went in today as wasn’t sure what to do for the best, and was told to go home. I won’t be paid as my contract is zero hours - the agency sent us info saying if schools were closed we’d get SSP, then amended that to saying if we were told to self isolate we’d get SSP, but would need some kind of form or something from 111 - not quite clear on that. I have no symptoms and as the guidance is so wishy washy about ‘distancing’ and ‘shielding’ rather than a directive to stay home (even though the school were clear they didn’t want me in due to government advice), therefore I doubt I’m entitled to anything.

Got some savings that were meant to be for when baby arrives as I’m also not entitled to mat leave, and husband whilst by no means a high earner (not even close) can at least cover essentials for now so I’m trying not to panic and just focus on doing what’s best for this baby.

Sunnydays60 · 17/03/2020 11:43

Yeah, its seems unfair to say you should work from home of you can but if not, tough luck! The advice isn't to self isolate so I expect lots of work places are using that as an excuse to expect these at risk groups to come in.

Even from the weekend it seems only those who are seriously ill with other health conditions will be asked, personally by the nhs, to follow the next step of measures... older people and pregnant ladies don't look like they're in that group... so if you have been sent home I'm not sure it will be for 12 weeks....

lovelyjubbly12 · 17/03/2020 11:47

At risk of sounding completely thick....

If we do self isolate for the 12 week period obviously the first week we self cert from work but then after that do we just ring 11 for a sick note for 11 weeks?!?! What on earth even is the process?!

Backtotheoldskool · 17/03/2020 11:47

I've just spoken to NHS 111 to ask about partners and other family members living in the same household as someone who has been advised to self isolate.

I'm 21 weeks pregnant with no symptoms at all. Just me and DH in our house.

The advice was for DH to still go to work but to:
*stand 2 metres away from anyone he has to talk to
*wash hands continuously through the day after touching door handles, surfaces, everything really.
*put any used tissues straight in the bin.

OR

If any one person in a household has any symptoms then the whole house should self isolate for 14 days

Backtotheoldskool · 17/03/2020 11:52

Here's the latest info on the government website.

Background and scope of guidance
This guidance is for everyone. It advises on social distancing measures we should all be taking to reduce social interaction between people in order to reduce the transmission of coronavirus (COVID-19). It is intended for use in situations where people are living in their own homes, with or without additional support from friends, family and carers. If you live in a residential care setting guidance is available.

We are advising those who are at increased risk of severe illness from coronavirus (COVID-19) to be particularly stringent in following social distancing measures.
This group includes those who are:

*aged 70 or older (regardless of medical conditions)
*under 70 with an underlying health condition listed below (ie anyone instructed to get a flu jab as an adult each year on medical grounds):
*chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis
*chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
*chronic kidney disease
*chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
*chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson’s disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy
*diabetes
*problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed
*a weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy
*being seriously overweight (a body mass index (BMI) of 40 or above)
*those who are pregnant

Note: there are some clinical conditions which put people at even higher risk of severe illness from COVID-19. If you are in this category, next week the NHS in England will directly contact you with advice the more stringent measures you should take in order to keep yourself and others safe. For now, you should rigorously follow the social distancing advice in full, outlined below.

People falling into this group are those who may be at particular risk due to complex health problems such as:

people who have received an organ transplant and remain on ongoing immunosuppression medication
people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radiotherapy
people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia who are at any stage of treatment
people with severe chest conditions such as cystic fibrosis or severe asthma (requiring hospital admissions or courses of steroid tablets)
people with severe diseases of body systems, such as severe kidney disease (dialysis)

What is social distancing?
Social distancing measures are steps you can take to reduce the social interaction between people. This will help reduce the transmission of coronavirus (COVID-19).

They are:

Avoid contact with someone who is displaying symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19). These symptoms include high temperature and/or new and continuous cough
Avoid non-essential use of public transport, varying your travel times to avoid rush hour, when possible
Work from home, where possible. Your employer should support you to do this. Please refer to employer guidance for more information
Avoid large gatherings, and gatherings in smaller public spaces such as pubs, cinemas, restaurants, theatres, bars, clubs
Avoid gatherings with friends and family. Keep in touch using remote technology such as phone, internet, and social media
Use telephone or online services to contact your GP or other essential services
Everyone should be trying to follow these measures as much as is pragmatic.

For those who are over 70, have an underlying health condition or are pregnant, we strongly advise you to follow the above measures as much as you can, and to significantly limit your face-to-face interaction with friends and family if possible.

This advice is likely to be in place for some weeks.

Handwashing and respiratory hygiene
There are general principles you can follow to help prevent the spread of respiratory viruses, including:

washing your hands more often - with soap and water for at least 20 seconds or use a hand sanitiser when you get home or into work, when you blow your nose, sneeze or cough, eat or handle food
avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth with unwashed hands
avoid close contact with people who have symptoms
cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue, then throw the tissue in a bin and wash your hands
clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces in the home
What should you do if you develop symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19)
The same guidance applies to the general population and those at increased risk of severe illness form coronavirus (COVID-19). If you develop symptoms of COVID-19 (high temperature and/or new and continuous cough), self-isolate at home for 7 days. You can find the full guidance at stay at home.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults

Sunnydays60 · 17/03/2020 12:04

@lovelyjubbly12
You should only be self isolating if you or someone in the house is sick. If you yourself are not sick then I don't see you should be self certifying or getting a sick note... I'm not sure what the deal is with this new situation of you having to self isolate if someone in your house is sick... there must be something else like medical suspension... I suppose 111 would have that info for how to get this signed off with work...

Sunnydays60 · 17/03/2020 12:15

@Backtotheoldskool

Did 111 confirm you have been asked to self isolate? According to the government and nhs, no one who is not ill with covid symptoms has been asked to self isolate. I would imagine this will be the advice they are giving to everyone trying to practise strict social distancing? There is a difference.

Isthistrueor · 17/03/2020 12:37

Ok so we don’t have to completely self isolate for 12 weeks but we do have to practise ‘social distancing’ so in other words can’t go to work unless you work alone and can’t drop the DC off at school despite schools being open. Nice guidelines.

Backtotheoldskool · 17/03/2020 12:37

@sunnydays60

NHS didn't tell me to self isolate or even use the words 'social distancing' but that's probably because I put the words into the woman's mouth.
I asked her the question that 'if I now fall into the high risk groups through being pregnant and have been advised not to go to work what happens about my DH still going out and about to work and back everyday. It defeats the object of me staying indoors if he can still give it to me'. She then told me what I posted above.

I see what you mean though. Yes there is a difference between the two.

From the new announcement yesterday pregnant women and those other high risk groups above should be more strict in practising the social distancing measures in the hope that they would not catch coronavirus.

Self isolation is if someone in the household does actually have symptoms.

lovelyjubbly12 · 17/03/2020 12:37

@Sunnydays60 no I'm not poorly at the moment thank god. I was thinking more towards this weekend if Boris does decide to put us into isolation like he's hinting towards.

NishaaS123 · 17/03/2020 12:48

My manager told me to stay home until further notice and they will contact me if anything changes Hmm

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BabyG08 · 17/03/2020 12:53

I rang my midwife this morning and was told that I can continue to work as long as I am not symptomatic and to socially isolate myself so not to go to pubs and restaurants etc. She also said that it could change in a matter of days so just to keep checking guidelines etc.
Obviously being careful with hand washing and social distancing.

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