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Girlfriend has shown her hand!

344 replies

Ccooped1 · 18/11/2019 17:09

Hi, Im extremely sad and angry with myself over the position I have let myself get into. I am a single dad with custody of 3 young children (aged 4, 6, and 8 YO). I work full time and raise my children on my own and have done for the last 3.5 years. They are amazing and we work so well as a family unit - life couldn't be any better under the circumstances. I moved away from family for work several years ago so my nearest family member is 120 miles away... At present my children have not seen their mom for 19 months as she has moved away without any idea. I get zero support, of which I don't moan about as i'm fortunate to have a good job and be motivated to my children. They have everything children need, an extremely special bond with me, they are taught morals / values, have life experiences etc. Again I am lucky to be able to do this. I have got my head down over the initial 3 years on my own ensuring my children are in a good place emotionally after the disappearing act of mother.
I have just done the basics right, worked hard, renovated a house for us to grow old in, and been a dads taxi of course.

Anyway now the scene is set, I have a major issue. Over the last year I have been building a relationship with a girl who I thought was very caring and in a similar position to me would be a safe bet. We have been open about our situation, limited time we spent together and agreed on things like kids, marriage moving in together etc. It was clear that as she had 2 children and I have 3, that I did not want any more children as it just doesn't make sense obviously to me and I dont want to change nappies for ever! Anyway after being on the pill she is pregnant and basically told me to f off she is keeping it. I know we can all say you should have not listened to her and used a condom but it has been a year and i thought trust was there. My point of view is that I have been clear from day one and this is all against my consent. She already has 2 children off different dads and I am not judging by this but surely she wants solid foundations to void being in her current position again. She has told me that she is having it regardless of what I say. I know her kids dads are not the best so she wants a good dad but this is all wrong. She is not listening to me and everytime I try and talk calmly to her she goes off on one and i see a side I never once thought was there. I understand that there is nothing i can do so this message really is me venting off and hoping that someone can tell me they have had something similar or what on earth I am going to do. I would never ever walk away from a child so I will be there for it no matter what, with regards to the mother I cannot be false and this is betrayal and whilst I am not a nasty person I cannot move forward with a women like this. I feel such a fool!!

OP posts:
sue51 · 19/11/2019 15:44

I think that's how he views how easy an abortion would be for this woman.

Hanab · 19/11/2019 15:46

Did not read the entire thread ..

if the roles were reversed what would you all be saying?

I am of the opinion both males and females can decide if they want to be parents .. the discussion was had before conception so the lady did know where the OP stood on this issue..

It’s such a difficult situation to be in OP esp being male .. you don’t have the option of choosing wether or not to continue with the pregnancy .. ( it’s her body screams all and sundry)
You have the choice to be in the kids life or not to be ( he must stand up and support the kid screams the crowd) yes it would be awesome if you did ..

men can impregnate women until they die ( most of the time) if you do not want to have kids YOU have take precautions ..

We will never know both sides of the story but I do wish you & her come to a decision you can live with 🌷

furrytoebean · 19/11/2019 15:54

if the roles were reversed what would you all be saying?

What do you mean if the roles were reversed?
You mean what if a woman had stopped using condoms with a man and then the man got pregnant? Would I think it was ok to force that man to have an abortion or think the woman doesn't have to take responsibility for the child?
I'd have the same response.

KaleidoscopeEyes · 19/11/2019 15:58

But OP, even your latest post has horrible sniping undertones (and overtones!) at your gf. All these things you're criticising her for were there before she got pregnant. You speak about her as if she's some scummy manipulative woman.

sue51 · 19/11/2019 16:18

There are 3 threads on here about women whose partners are attempting to push them into an unwanted abortion. Horrendous.

sue51 · 19/11/2019 16:18

I am pro abortion and choice btw.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/11/2019 16:21

But OP, even your latest post has horrible sniping undertones (and overtones!) at your gf. All these things you're criticising her for were there before she got pregnant. You speak about her as if she's some scummy manipulative woman.

I presume because he's stressed, upset, worried, scared as to what's going to happen. I doubt he's feeling particularly charitable towards this lady.

It's a very difficult situation and I don't think anyone can blame him from being in despair about it.

AuntyElle · 19/11/2019 16:27

Charitable?? What a strange word to use in this context. He failed to take responsibility for his reproductive potential, blames his partner, and now can be forgiven for not feeling “charitable”? Confused

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/11/2019 16:30

How did he fail? He was in a relationship, the contraception was decided upon, as it is in many relationships.

Either it's failed, she didn't take it correctly or she stopped taking it. He doesn't want to be a father to another child. Clearly she wants the baby. Why should he be happy about it?

If he was happy but she wasn't and decided to terminate how many of you would be telling her that it's her own fault she should have been more careful with contraception? Any of you?

furrytoebean · 19/11/2019 16:40

If he was happy but she wasn't and decided to terminate how many of you would be telling her that it's her own fault she should have been more careful with contraception? Any of you?

That's not the same situation at all.

Women have to carry the babies in their bodies, they have to take time off work and go through giving birth.

Unless we live in some nightmare dystopia where a male partner can either force a woman to give birth or have an abortion against her will this is the situation we'll have.

user1471449295 · 19/11/2019 16:45

Unfortunately this is a risk you take when you have sex. If you definitely don’t want any more children you should use two forms of contraception.
Oh, and the first half of your post reads like you want a prize for looking after your children so well...so well done, pat on the back for you

Moomin8 · 19/11/2019 16:52

I really can't believe the amount of mansplaining that has gone on on this thread. The OP has been whiny and accusatory throughout. And he already has 3 children - so he knows perfectly well how babies are made.

KittenLedWeaning · 19/11/2019 17:01

She wanted us to move in together ... She hates her job, when she goes of course, 2 days a week. She has sickness every month as she gets benefits.

To be frank, she sounds like she's aspiring to be whatever the female equivalent of a cocklodger is.

What on earth attracted you to a woman like that in the first place? Whether she duped you or not over taking the pill, it sounds as though she was looking for a meal ticket.

BercowsFestiveFlamingo · 19/11/2019 17:02

Ah yet another betrayed dad of the year. Have a Biscuit love because you're not going to get the medal you think you deserve.

Moondancer73 · 19/11/2019 17:06

Shown her hand?! Just wow. At what point did you not feel that you might have to take responsibility for contraception - bring you are an adult? 🤦‍♀️

Moondancer73 · 19/11/2019 17:06

*being

dontalltalkatonce · 19/11/2019 17:13

Wow, you're still full of blame and judgement for this woman, yet amazingly you were happy enough to have a relationship with her and shag away with no condom, now all of the sudden she's a lazy, feckless sponging slag whose had abortions and 2 kids by 2 different dads when she won't have a termination you want her to have or allow you to get her alone to try to bully her into it. What a piece of work you are.

Bellatrix14 · 19/11/2019 17:18

@CareOfPunts of course they would. And nobody on here would ever say to a woman who got pregnant using one form of contraception “oh if you really didn’t want a baby why weren’t you using condoms/the pill/a copper coil too? Two methods are safer than one, maybe if you really don’t want a baby you shouldn’t be having sex!” because it’s a bloody horrible attitude to have.

I’m not saying the OP’s attitude is great either, but two wrongs don’t make a right...

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/11/2019 17:18

Women have to carry the babies in their bodies, they have to take time off work and go through giving birth.

Yes they do. Do any woman who doesn't want a child should make sure that their contraception is water tight, or not have sex, no? If not, why not?

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/11/2019 17:20

And he already has 3 children - so he knows perfectly well how babies are made.

That he's raising alone because the mother has done a bunk.

A single mum of 3 who's unexpectedly pregnant again - do you say the same to her? Surely she also knows how babies are made, no?

furrytoebean · 19/11/2019 17:22

Yes they do. Do any woman who doesn't want a child should make sure that their contraception is water tight, or not have sex, no? If not, why not?

I don't know what you are suggesting here.
If the woman gets pregnant and she doesn't want to carry a child she has an abortion.

Moomin8 · 19/11/2019 17:23

That he's raising alone because the mother has done a bunk.

Yeah, there's a theme here. If you were dating this man and he described his exes in the way he's done on this thread you'd think it was a red flag.

SunshineCake · 19/11/2019 17:26

It's so shit

My mother got pregnant to trap my dad and it didn't work. I spent my life being abused in the care system. Daddy went on to marry and have kids and mummy is having a lovely life with the man she chose over me.

This woman has behaved badly if she's tricked him and how sad that there was no trust.

I'd be saving money for the child's future, ensuring there was a dna test done and if she wants my money she'd be giving the child my name. Women can't have it all their own way while all the man gets is the demand of maintenance.

QueenBeex · 19/11/2019 17:27

No matter how long you've been together or how much you trust her that doesn't mean the pill would of ever worked 100% anyway. If you truly didn't want another child you should of made sure you was doing all you could to avoid it, not rely on her to take the pill. It's not always the woman's job to avoid pregnancy happening. You didn't have to have sex with her did you?

AuntyElle · 19/11/2019 17:27

JFC, Hearhoovesthinkzebras, your distrust of women and downright misogyny is strong.