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Girlfriend has shown her hand!

344 replies

Ccooped1 · 18/11/2019 17:09

Hi, Im extremely sad and angry with myself over the position I have let myself get into. I am a single dad with custody of 3 young children (aged 4, 6, and 8 YO). I work full time and raise my children on my own and have done for the last 3.5 years. They are amazing and we work so well as a family unit - life couldn't be any better under the circumstances. I moved away from family for work several years ago so my nearest family member is 120 miles away... At present my children have not seen their mom for 19 months as she has moved away without any idea. I get zero support, of which I don't moan about as i'm fortunate to have a good job and be motivated to my children. They have everything children need, an extremely special bond with me, they are taught morals / values, have life experiences etc. Again I am lucky to be able to do this. I have got my head down over the initial 3 years on my own ensuring my children are in a good place emotionally after the disappearing act of mother.
I have just done the basics right, worked hard, renovated a house for us to grow old in, and been a dads taxi of course.

Anyway now the scene is set, I have a major issue. Over the last year I have been building a relationship with a girl who I thought was very caring and in a similar position to me would be a safe bet. We have been open about our situation, limited time we spent together and agreed on things like kids, marriage moving in together etc. It was clear that as she had 2 children and I have 3, that I did not want any more children as it just doesn't make sense obviously to me and I dont want to change nappies for ever! Anyway after being on the pill she is pregnant and basically told me to f off she is keeping it. I know we can all say you should have not listened to her and used a condom but it has been a year and i thought trust was there. My point of view is that I have been clear from day one and this is all against my consent. She already has 2 children off different dads and I am not judging by this but surely she wants solid foundations to void being in her current position again. She has told me that she is having it regardless of what I say. I know her kids dads are not the best so she wants a good dad but this is all wrong. She is not listening to me and everytime I try and talk calmly to her she goes off on one and i see a side I never once thought was there. I understand that there is nothing i can do so this message really is me venting off and hoping that someone can tell me they have had something similar or what on earth I am going to do. I would never ever walk away from a child so I will be there for it no matter what, with regards to the mother I cannot be false and this is betrayal and whilst I am not a nasty person I cannot move forward with a women like this. I feel such a fool!!

OP posts:
Bunnyfuller · 19/11/2019 19:23

Frankly, this story contains far too many conceptions, abortions and baby daddies. As my mum used to say, she needs to keep her hand on her ha’ppenny. She clearly has form for this whole getting pregnant thing, and obviously chooses men that take contraception equally lightly.

Where’s Jeremy when you need him?

What’s desperately sad are the children merrily begotten without thought of how to support and nurture.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/11/2019 19:25

I'm guessing the gf told the op to fuck off when he mentioned abortion because in her mind he was meant to be happy about the pregnancy, celebrate joyously and then move her and her children in with him. It all came crashing down when he was actually upset about it and indicated that he didn't want to add another child to the 5 that are already here.

LimeRedBanana · 19/11/2019 19:29

** Well, in those cases, the woman takes responsibility for her 'mistake'.

Does she? In what way?

By having the baby, or having an abortion.

She doesn't go whining about 'being trapped' because somebody else wasn't being careful enough with their contraception.

furrytoebean · 19/11/2019 19:35

So you're saying that it's fine to be lax with contraception as a woman because you can have an abortion is that right?

No what I'm saying is that abortion exists so that women can have the choice not to go through with a pregnancy if she gets pregnant.
Regardless of contraception.

Most women would rather not have this happen so they take responsibility for their contraception.
Sometimes mistakes happen and a woman (thankfully) can choose an abortion.

Men however don't get to choose if a woman has an abortion or not because it's not his body.
So if he really doesn't want a child he should wear a condom regardless of whether the woman is on contraception.

furrytoebean · 19/11/2019 19:41

I'm not sure what other option you would like to happen horse

Would you like it be that a man can have force a woman to have an abortion/birth a baby against their will?
Or that a child grows without a dad because of contraception failure?

Because they are the only other options that exist other than the way it works now.

furrytoebean · 19/11/2019 19:43

Sorry hooves wrong name there Grin

blessedmummyov5 · 19/11/2019 20:06

Ummm she took responsibility on her end by taking the pill

u on the other hand chucked ur responsibilities out the window wen u didn't bag it

if ne1 is to blame for this look a little closer to home smhhh

CalleighDoodle · 19/11/2019 20:35

@Bunnyfuller how rude! The op has more children!

AuntyElle · 19/11/2019 20:52

“I'm guessing the gf told the op to fuck off when he mentioned abortion because in her mind he was meant to be happy about the pregnancy, celebrate joyously and then move her and her children in with him. It all came crashing down when he was actually upset about it and indicated that he didn't want to add another child to the 5 that are already here.”

Blimey, that’s a lot of “guessing”, Hearhoovesthinkzebras. By “guessing” you must mean unfettered fantasy.

MirkwoodMiss · 19/11/2019 21:05

Any chance the baby isn't yours? If there is to be no reconciliation- I'd consider a paternity test when ever possible.

BIWI · 19/11/2019 21:12

FFS - why on earth wouldn't it be his baby?

Would you like to pillory this woman any further?!

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/11/2019 21:48

furrytoebean
No neither of those options.

How about either men treated with the same respect that women are in regards to unwanted.pregnancy or else women treated with the same disdain that men are in the same regards?

Why such a huge difference?

Woman with unwanted pregnancy - oh that's so hard. Here's what your options are. Be kind to yourself. Get real life help.

Man with unwanted pregnancy - you've only got yourself to blame. You should have used to sorts of contraception. Stop whining and man up or stop having sex.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/11/2019 21:50

Blimey, that’s a lot of “guessing”, Hearhoovesthinkzebras. By “guessing” you must mean unfettered fantasy.

Do you mean like a pp who posted their fantasy version also? Only that was more in line with your narrative so you clearly didn't feel the need to pull them up.

satanstoenailsandwich · 19/11/2019 21:51

' (Op - if I suggested one solution to your problem that you only want 3 kids and there is now a 4th on the way is that you could kill your 4 year old would you sit down and have a reasoned discussion with me or would you tell me to “fuck off”.)'

I'd tell you to fuck off on his behalf.

notthenormal · 19/11/2019 21:58

Building a relationship with a girl?
Is the person carrying your child under 18?

AuntyElle · 19/11/2019 22:13

Missed that one, Hearhoovesthinkzebras. But anyone posting their own fantasy versions of what might have happened, in order to flesh out their own viewpoint and opinions is... odd.

ChaiTeaChai · 19/11/2019 22:18

You're an adult. You had sex. A consequence of sex has happened. Boohoo.

If she was on the pill and you have no proof that she purposely didn't take it, why is it betrayal? You should've worn a condom or had a vasectomy, or not had sex at all. No contraception is 100%.

ChaiTeaChai · 19/11/2019 22:19

I have sympathy that you're having a child that you do not want, but it's not your girlfriend's fault.

Loopytiles · 19/11/2019 22:21

You made a poor choice to have sex with no condom with the “girl” (mother of two) you’d started a relationship with. It’s good that you have a good job, you can pay financial support and parent your DC4.

LimeRedBanana · 19/11/2019 23:28

Hooves is a big ol' man defender. Have seen her(?) in action on other threads.

Men are lucky to have you constantly looking out for their welfare, considering their side of things, and making sure things are equal for them, Hooves.

I'm sure they appreciate all the effort you put in for them. Wink

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/11/2019 23:32

I'm not looking out for men I'm just calling out double standards!

LimeRedBanana · 19/11/2019 23:45

But there is no double standard.

Men can't gestate babies. Ergo...

I'm just pointing out what I've seen on more than one thread.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 20/11/2019 00:02

LimeRedBanana

There absolutely is a double standard.

Pre conception why does it matter who gestated the foetus?

If a person doesn't want a child then they should do everything they can to avoid pregnancy, no?

So, if they don't then why are they not judged the same on MN?

Why aren't men who find themselves unexpectedly in this situation offered the same sympathy as women are?

People can be stupid and make bad decisions. Women have the ability to terminate a pregnancy that they don't want and obviously men don't. Why are they not allowed to be upset, regretful, scared about the prospect of becoming a father?

Moomin8 · 20/11/2019 00:08

Why are they not allowed to be upset, regretful, scared about the prospect of becoming a father?

Because, fgs nobody forced him to stick his cock in someone and ejaculate 🙄

His feelings about the situation are for him to process and come to terms - not dump on his gf and blame her. That's what being an adult is.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 20/11/2019 00:13

So in what way is the gf being an adult then?

Is she supporting the 3 children that she's going to have? Isn't that being an adult - providing for the children that you have?