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Tmnmpa1 · 20/08/2019 21:46

I'm Irish but DH isnt. He is happy with an Irish name if it is close to being phonetic but this limits choices. Any suggestions please.

Like Rory or Fionn

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rugshade · 21/08/2019 12:07

Mel is a name, like there are Jameses and Georges - it is an English name.

St Mel comes from "maol" meaning bald, which is often something monks were called.

rugshade · 21/08/2019 12:07

Conán is not Conan.

badb · 21/08/2019 12:21

If you want phonetic, the fadas and the dh/mh/bh's are out, surely? Are you somewhere in the UK or in Ireland? From your own list, Rory is lovely. I don't know that Fionn would be pronounced correctly if you are not in Ireland or Scotland. Same problem with Cian, Ciaran, and Cillian (despite Cillian Murphy, I often hear 'sillian').

Finn, perhaps? [Yes, I know it's the anglicised version of Fionn].
Conor, though only with one 'n'. With two, it's more of a surname here.
Cathal is great.
Liam is a bit old-fashioned but nice.

Interesting re Senan. I've always thought of it as a very Irish name. I know lots of little Senans, and I love it. My husband vetoed it for us :) I've had two babies in five years (in Ireland) and most of the little boys with Irish names are called Cian, Donnacha, Ruadhrí (in multiple spellings), Iarla/Iarflaith, and Odhran.

Ronia · 21/08/2019 12:28

We were in the same position and went with Cillian. However it is almost always mispronounced as William when people first see it. That said, once corrected people are fine a d it's not so tricky a name that people struggle with it after that first time. You could always go for Killian if that did worry you though.

beanaseireann · 21/08/2019 16:39

Ronia
How can people pronounce Cillian as William Shock

ImMeantToBeWorking · 21/08/2019 16:57

I love Tadhg, Rory, Liam and Connor

Connor always makes me think it is a second name. I would always spell it Conor as a first name. (I'm Irish)

Conan isn't an Irish name

Conán is the Irish spelling of the name. A lot of people are unable to do fadas (its "alt gr" and the vowel for anyone wondering.)

I love Conall, Oran, Cathal, Eogahan, Conor, Aaron and Seanán. Although I know the last two are not very phonetic.

If ours is a boy we already have a name picked, kind of wish we didn't now. (Using DPs name as first name - family tradition, and my Grandfather's (x 2) name as middle name)

ImMeantToBeWorking · 21/08/2019 16:58

I meant to put Eoghan before Seanán when I said the last two are not very phonetic.

Baby brain!!

Fuiseog · 21/08/2019 17:02

@badb I don't necessarily think fadas are automatically out in this case. Some names like Seán are only spelled correctly in Irish if there is a fada, but I think they are very recognised by English speakers so would still fit the bill. I definitely agree for less well known names, as non-Irish speakers may not alter the vowel sound accordingly if they don't know how the fada works, but I think for names like Dónall, maybe Rónán etc., it's nice to have the fada to be correct but doesn't confuse pronunciation for non-Irish speakers.

Perhaps I am way off on this, so willing to be corrected if I am assuming it is easier than it is!

@Tmnmpa1
Also, I think it is worth considering exactly what you mean by Irish names: Irish language names or names from Ireland or both?
I only say that because Rory is an Irish name as in a name from Ireland, because one of the roots of the name is the Irish language name Ruairí/Ruaidhrí; it's not an Irish language name though. (For the record, I love all versions). Similar is Conor, which is Irish but not Irish language (from Conchobhar/Conchúr- definitely not phonetic!).
I'd prefer to use the Irish language versions of names myself if I was specifically looking for an Irish name to honour my heritage, but I would disagree with some of the statements that other names above are not Irish simply because they are not Irish language; if they have evolved in Ireland out of Irish language names, they are still Irish to me, more than they are anything else anyway.
For example, to me Meave is still an Irish name even though it is an angliscied version spelled according to English phonetics. I prefer and would choose to use Méabh, but the respelling with a v doesn't suddenly make it a name from elsewhere or without ancient roots in Ireland.

Deciding whether it is important to you have have the Irish language spelling or not may help you narrow down or open up possibilities of more names, so it could be helpful. I'm not sure if all that makes sense, but I hope so, and if so, I hope it is in some way helpful!

Also, I have a very random name from another language (not English or Irish) that is easily pronounced when looked at by (most!) English speakers but is in no way the instinctive spelling for them, so I am one of the people who has spent my life saying "Name, that's spelt N-A-M-E." Sure, it's not as easy as being called Jane or Jack, but I wouldn't trade it and lose the lovely cultural and personal reasons my parents chose my name. No one has ever spelt my name correctly without prompting, but it's easy for people to learn how to say and spell someone's name when told and rude not to. I met a lovely new colleague from Poland recently and had to learn how to say and spell her name; people should and will be willing to do it for Irish names too, especially if you are making it easier already for them by choosing a name that is easy to pronounce on sight!

Maybe I am ranting now - I have certainly digressed hugely - but am genuinely trying to be helpful and also massively procrastinating as I have loads of work I need to get through this afternoon.
Please just ignore all of this if it is irrelevant or unhelpful!

ImMeantToBeWorking · 21/08/2019 17:17

@Fuiseog No one has ever spelt my name correctly without prompting

I have an Irish name, that is spelt a strange way, somewhere between the Irish version and the English/American spelling. Very few people spell it right. My email in work is my full name @company. It is a nightmare because people don't listen when you spell it for them, and then they ring back saying their email bounced back!!

I recently went for my 12 week scan and pointed out that they had taken the spelling of my name down wrong from my doctors letter. Their response? "We assumed the doctor had spelt it wrong" now my first ever pregnancy scan for my first ever baby had my name spelt wrong on it on it. Angry

MildDrPepperAddiction · 21/08/2019 17:22

Ferdia! It has a wonderful myth/story to go along with it.

badb · 21/08/2019 17:35

Fuiseog, perhaps you are right on fadas, though I do think only where they don’t really interfere with the intuitive pronunciation. So yeah, Dónall would probably be fine, but maybe not Rónán. That’s if the phonetic thing is really important. Mind you, I do have (Irish) relatives living in the UK who called their baby Roisin with no fadas, which caused some comment from both families!

I see your point re Irish language spellings vs anglicised ones. I’m ambivalent (hypocritical?) about it and tend to take it on a case by case basis. Sadhbh: yes; Sive: absolutely not. Caoimhe: yes; Keeva: no. Maeve/Méabh: ok; Medb/Meadhbh: pushing it. Orla: fine; Orlaith: ok; Orfhlaith: no. Caoilfhionn: nope, though I don’t like Keelan either. And so on 😊

badb · 21/08/2019 17:35

Conall! Yes, Conall is good too.

Cleebope2 · 21/08/2019 17:45

No one said Oisin yet. Or Dermot, Emmet, Padraig, Naoise is actually meant to be male too, Brendan, Declan, Daibhi, Mihor (dunno how to spell it) Niall, Colm, Conn, Turlough.

ThatCurlyGirl · 21/08/2019 17:48

Tadhg is my absolute favourite boy's name ever, but I've never met anyone outside of Ireland who can pronounce it... it's a tough balance isn't it, while I love that name lots of people have said I'd be setting them up for difficulties with their name forevermore!

Deadringer · 21/08/2019 17:51

Love Sean, Aidan, Cian and Conor. All easy to say and spell. Love Cael too.

katseyes7 · 21/08/2019 17:54

OH already has a Ciaran. lf we'd had another boy we were going to call him Danann.

Youngandfree · 21/08/2019 17:55

Cillian
Rían
Sean
Conor
Cathal
Daire (darragh)
Tomás
Ciarán

Qwerty09876 · 21/08/2019 17:57

Dillon (my cousin named her son exactly how I've just spelt it as her partners family are Irish) hope it helps Thanks

BiMum5 · 21/08/2019 18:08

Riain
Odhran
Aonghus
Féidhlim

Thatsanicepear · 21/08/2019 18:15

Could someone please tell me how Tadhg is pronounced?

EarringsandLipstick · 21/08/2019 18:19

Tadhg = tie-guh

But actually softer than this with proper Irish pronunciation.

That's the other point - it can be hard for (eg) people living in UK to correctly pronounce some Irish names e.g. those beginning with D, which in Irish is a soft D. It would drive me mental listening to it being constantly mispronounced (not anyone's fault!)

Youngandfree · 21/08/2019 18:30

@Thatsanicepear like tiger without the “er”

MumsyMum31 · 21/08/2019 19:12

Owen (Eoghain), Garbhan (Garvan), lennaín (Lennon), Rossa, Barra, Daíre (Daragh), Cianán (Keenan), Diarmuid (Dermott/Dear-mid), Emmet, Conlaith, Pearse (Piaras).

EarringsandLipstick · 21/08/2019 22:09

I'd like to see anyone NOT from Ireland pronounce Diarmuid or Daíre correctly by looking at it, or even hearing it 😂
(Both names I love, btw, and one of which I have in my family)

BigBairyHollocks · 21/08/2019 22:27

No one ever mentions Eamon on these threads-I personally think it’s a super Irish name but Eamonn Holmes ruined it a bitAngry

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