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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 17/04/2019 20:13

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Reastie · 25/04/2019 15:56

I have a question to those on laxatives with ondansetron. Have you been taking roughly the same amount of laxatives throughout/varying it throughout/increasing it? I’ve been generally successfully on movicol now for about 10 weeks. I’ve noticed things will be good and very regular for a couple of weeks or so, then I’ll have to increase the dose and after a few days when it takes effect things go back to very regular but then same thing will happen after a few weeks, things will slow down and bms will drop back and I increase dose again to sort it out. It takes a couple of days or so to have any effect so it’s mot something I can just glug a bit more of as and when to keep things moving. I’m now up to 3 sachets a day (the usual max apart from impaction) whereas initially half that was enough.

Cattaxi I’m hoping the Aldi event will be on for a few days and I can send dh out on Saturday to get some bits.

Reastie · 25/04/2019 15:58

Plus it’s expensive! Prescriptions give me a cheaper version of movicol which doesn’t agree with me and so I’m paying now over £1 a day just for laxatives, which over weeks and months is adding up given I’m on statutory sick pay!

LucindaE · 25/04/2019 22:03

Sorry, everyone, I've got a migraine today. I hope everyone is managing.
I do want to say that I am shocked that the court system insists that Advocadoo attends, though she has been so ill. I wonder if Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020 might be able to ring you back with some advice about that?

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avacadooo · 25/04/2019 22:14

@cattaxi god that sounds horrible, the victim support have basically told me to crack on with it even though I wrote a letter about how sick I was and how stressful it would be for me but they ignored it. It's like they don't care I was almost stabbed by the guy.
I got told by the police I should be lucky that it wasn't put in Glasgow court like it was meant to!
It's the thought as well that it might not get heard that day and I'd have to go back everyday for two weeks! It's not possible.

@LucindaE Yeah they aren't treating g me the greatest.
I might have to try and phone again since they ignored my email expressing my concern.😒
I'm so sorry you have a migraine, I hope it disappears soon!! They're awful things.💕

@Reastie Asda have some pretty good deals on right now too!
To anyone planing on bottle feeding they've got the tomee tipee milk machine for £60 instead of £100!!
I've pretty much done all the baby shopping in the past 24 hours (so grateful for online shopping because I got to dodge going into mother care 😂)

PickledEgg89 · 26/04/2019 09:59

Very successful GP appointment this morning, I told her my history and that I had been taking the cyclizine with not much success so she said she thinks it's best to go in aggressively to try and avoid hospital this time so I've been prescribed cyclizine, ondansetron and laxatives. fingers crossed!
hope everyone is okay today.

Reastie · 26/04/2019 10:30

That’s great pickled egg, just the right way to treat it. I think being open with cyclizine was the best way as you’ve already tried the first line drug and had limited success so they need to try other options.

DeadDoorpost · 26/04/2019 14:11

Scan went well today, and we're having a girl! So happy because it means we've broken the family curse of mostly boys 😂😂 and I wanted a girl too as I have a name ready.

Really don't think we'll have any more. DH said it's up to me because I'm the one that has to deal with the sickness and problems of pregnancy

Blii · 26/04/2019 16:23

Avacado definitely ring the pregnancy sickness help line. I bet they can help. It seems so wrong you have to go through this. Stress makes HG so much worse.
Pickledegg that’s great! Hope that combo works for you, it’s good your doctor is understanding.
DeadDoorPost lovely news about a girl.
Hope your migraine gets better soon Lucinda!
I texted my manager about my extra day. The two main managers have a meeting today so they said they discuss it and get back to me. They have not got back to me yet. I’ll give it until next week and if they’ve not given me an answer I will pester them.

beforeIhit30 · 26/04/2019 17:51

That sounds encouraging PickledEgg hope it all helps.

DeadDoor hurrah! Glad scan went well also. I keep saying we’re done, I said that last time too Blush but that was because I had two close together and was tired, deep down I wanted another, and I didn’t have HG. I’m really not keen to do HG again Confused

I hope your request goes well Blii.

Been feeling a bit better overall for nearly a week (one day felt a bit rough), wondering if I’m finally breaking through into that post-20 week improvement. I’m not 100% and I’m still nauseous but the nausea is less (more like regular pregnancy nausea, rather than HG nausea, so it’s still uncomfortable but much more manageable), vomiting is under control with a combination of cyclizine and avoiding various triggers. I’ve been able to get up and out of bed in the morning (as in between 9am and 10am, which is radical for me these days Grin), and I’ve done some short walks. I get exhausted easily, probably because I’ve been so sedentary for so long! And blood pressure still tends to the low side, but slowly trying to do a little bit more each day and see how I go. I’m almost 22 weeks.

Bought some baby clothes as I found some vouchers that needed using up (multi shop ones, where they’d be partially used and expired soon, like £7 on one, £11 on another etc!). Was a right business at the checkout individually deducting the balances of each card. Luckily the sales assistant was good humoured and there was no queue behind us. Anyway I now have a stash of vests and sleepsuits and it’s starting to feel a bit real...!

LucindaE · 26/04/2019 18:55

Thnaks for good wishes Advocadooand everyone. Could you get a doctor's note or did you say the doctor was wholly unsympathetic?
PickledEgg89 That sounds good; laxatives, too! Do you find an anti acid helps?
DeadDoorPost Congratulations on your girl.
Bili Good advice and a good idea about work and the extra day.
cattaxi That court case sounds awful and I am glad you didn't have to attend.
beforeihit30 Those vests and sleepsuits are so sweet. I bet you enjoyed buying them.
Waves to Reastie and everyone...

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CalmerComber · 26/04/2019 19:00

Hi all,

Sad/happy to see familiar usernames here.

26 weeks with the twinnies now and I’m having a massive regression. Three days this week I’ve been crawling from bed to the bathroom because even going from lying down to sitting up has made me hurl. I’d been doing really well and reduced my meds even but I’m back up to max doses on everything now. Trying to console myself with the fact that I won’t be allowed past 36 weeks so this is only going to happen for 10 more weeks MAXIMUM!

Desperate for juicy, fresh, tangy things this week. Have got through 3 melons and 2 litres of tomato juice!

Hope everyone ok and has a relaxing weekend planned. We have a 2 year old birthday party tomorrow and then on Sunday I’m meeting some friends in Oxford for brunch and a mooch round John Lewis nursery department.

1potato · 26/04/2019 19:37

Hi everyone. It's been a while but I wanted to check in. I'm nearly 21 weeks and boy am I showing. I had my scan earlier this week and love the little jelly baby so much.

I'm still sick. I had an amazing 10 odd days at week 18 and thought I was better but then it came back with a vengeance and I had to start mixing up my medicines to make sure I'm covered. It is under control right now but still impacting my ability to leave the house or do any activity.

My doctor is useless. He told me there were only two types of medicine I can try and when I challenged him, he told me to ring the hospital to get advice and then call him back. Eugh. I'm going to post him some info from the pregnancy sickness support website as his response is RIDICULOUS!

Food wise, I'm good with most things now, which is AWESOME. It just shows that hyperemesis isn't all about food aversions at all.

Hope you lovely ladies able to enjoy some of the beautiful weather the country has seen over the last few weeks. Good health to you all.

Teddyreddy · 26/04/2019 20:25

@Reastie I'm currently on one ondensatron a day and coping with 15 ml lactulose a day. However, I struggled with constipation in previous pregnancies. Things that made it worse for me were rantidine (constipation is a possible side effect) and any form of iron (I was anaemic). I found it got worse as I got more pregnant - in previous pregnancies I started on 5 ml lactulose once a day and by the end of pregnancy was on 15 ml twice a day. The midwife said it wasn't unusual for constipation to get worse as pregnancy progresses. It did get better immediately on delivery - I still needed the iron due to blood loss but when not pregnant it didn't cause anything like as bad constipation.

I booked a 4d scan for 3 weeks time today. I didn't bother with DC1 and 2 but we think it'll help make it more real for the kids, and I'm hoping it'll make me feel a bit more positively too. Has anyone else had one?

cattaxi · 26/04/2019 20:26

@Reastie I think I should probably wait for these results before doing any shopping really. And maybe dig them through ds’ old stuff to see what we have / need. Hopefully aldi will have another event before October. Lidl had some nice maternity t-shirts this week & a few bits of baby stuff. I love those middle isles!

@LucindaE - glad your migraine is better. They are such horrible things. I’ve only had a couple in my first few weeks of this pregnacy. I usually have about 6 a month, so it’s a very welcome respite.

@Avacadooo I second the suggestion upthread to try pregnacy sickness support. Hopefully they can offer support. Such a tough situation for you 💐

Glad you got on well at the gp @PickledEgg89. Early intervention is so important. And make sure you are getting plenty of rest.

Congratulations on the girl @DeadDoorpost.

Glad you are feeling a bit better @BeforeIhit30. And yay for shopping!

I hope you hear from your manager ASAP @Bili.

Sorry you are both struggling @CalmerComber & @1potato. It’s such a shitty illness.

Hope everyone else is having a good Friday. I’m a bit better today. Still exhausted. But I managed to look after ds on my own all day & cook everyone a nice dinner. Both things that I couldn’t imagine doing about 2 weeks ago.

Reastie · 27/04/2019 18:07

Thanks for the laxative comments. It makes sense you might get more constipated as space gets smaller. Looks like I just might need to slowly keep increasing the movicol as and when.

Cattaxi sounds like you’re doing really well compared to where you were. Fx it continues.

Teddy I had a 4d scan with dd and it really really helped mentally with the bonding. Haven’t this time due to budgeting but would recommend. I think the rubbish pg we have anything that helps bonding and gives us something to look forward to is good.

1potato can you see another gp?

Eal not long to go now! How are you feeling about things? Have you seen consultant and got everything in place?

Calmer poor you having bad days. Have you been overdoing it or coming down with anything to account for getting worse? I’m always looking for a reason for why I get bad days. There isn’t always one but I try hard to find something to pin it on so I feel I can try to stop it happening again.

Have ordered some reusable nappies to try today and dh has cleaned out the shed whilst he still has free time at week ends! Growth scan coming up on Wednesday and very interested to see how much growth. Around now dds growth started getting out of control so I’m wondering if the same will happen again.

DeadDoorpost · 27/04/2019 18:58

I have felt like absolute crap all day today. Have so far managed to eat a small amount of banana, and 2 slices of plain white bread. Constantly feel like something is in my throat/lungs. Have a feeling I'll be throwing up in the next hour or so.

LucindaE · 27/04/2019 19:09

Welcomeback with your twins, Calmer Comberi. I am sorry to hear things have been bad. I hope it is either a virus or a hormonal surge - and thank goodness you only have ten weeks to go! Congratulationson melons,anyway.
1Potato That doctor does sound willfullly ignorant. It is certainly a good idea to take the information from PPS.
Reastie I am so glad OH is being so organised! Smile Congratulations on reusable nappy purchase Star.
Cataxi Thank you. I am so glad you have escaped your horribly frequent migraines with pregnancy. I had dreadful ones up to fourteen weeks, and then a respite. How hormones work is very complex and puzzling.
DeadDoorPost Sorry about a horrible day for you.
My PC is acitng oddly. First it signed me out of Mumsnet, then it kept flipping the thread, and then it ate my messages. I had better post this quickly. I hope I have re-typed it OK!

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Reastie · 27/04/2019 19:14

Dead have you tried heartburn medicine? That throat feeling I get with heartburn

cattaxi · 27/04/2019 19:49

Evening all! I couldn’t sleep last night. Had 2 large glasses of coke in the evening without thinking & I think the caffeine really got to me. Exhausted today & very sick. It’s amazing how little it takes to set you back. Going to attempt some boiled potatoes to see if I can keep them down.
I’ve started to feel little movements in the past few days. I’d forgotten how lovely it is. And it’s nice to feel as I’ve been so worried about the baby after the cvs procedure. Hoping we get our results this week 🤞🏻

@Reastie what nappies did you get? I used mostly cloth with ds & am excited to get the out again for this one. There are lots of great offered coming up for real nappy week next week.

Sorry you’re having a bad day @DeadDoorpost.

@LucindaE migraines & hormones are so weird. My usual ones are quite predictable with hormone dips & surges in my cycle. Last pregnacy I had loads in the first trimester. Even started having ocular ones, which I never had before. And this time, nothing apart from 2/3 when I was 4 weeks. The only bonus of this pregnacy so far!

@eallison88 I hope you are doing ok my lovely. Not long now, which must be very exciting and scary all at the same time. Thinking of you.

DeadDoorpost · 27/04/2019 20:37

I was correct. In fact, I threw up within mins of posting that last one. Been sick again since.

Reastie I do have some tablets for heartburn but they don't seem to be helping too much. Seems to have gone since being sick though.
cattaxi hopefully good news for the results!

eallison88 · 27/04/2019 22:22

Hi all. To be honest, I was feeling ok, but I've done some reading on the induction process this evening and now I'm completely freaking out. I don't feel like there's a plan (my consultant was on training on Thurs/Fri and not working at the weekend, and I didn't find this out until Thursday so couldn't see her beforehand). All I know is they'll take me down to labour ward on Monday when there is a midwife available, usually by midday. Having done some research, I am now desperate to avoid the synthetic oxytocin drip - partly cos of the intensification of pain and speed of contractions, but not necessarily intensification of efficacy of contractions. Mainly cos I cannot bear the thought of being attached to that drip stand for the duration of labour. I need to be able to move freely. I am seriously considering cancelling the whole damned thing. I've made the decision that I'm prepared to delay and wait until the one room that offers wireless monitoring so I don't have to be tied to the CTG machine the whole time - again, I can't bear to have my movements limited.

norbert23 · 28/04/2019 07:01

Popping back on to wave and wish everyone a happy, vom free Sunday! I'm managing ok apart from random nausea & the tiredness after work. I'm having major red meat cravings so I might buy some spatone to see if it's low iron. 23 weeks today and achey too, I don't remember feeling so uncomfortable last time 🙁
I do hope you can get the room with the wireless monitoring @eallison88 - not long to go but I bet it feels like the last stretch of a marathon.
@cattaxi Fingers crossed for your results this week and that you get good news, you've had a long wait and it must have been unbearable. I'm also getting kicks and bump movements now so I'm 'enjoying' that at 2am 😀 x

Reastie · 28/04/2019 08:17

Eal so they’ve agreed induction with yiu but haven’t really told you what the options were with induction? That sucks. Fwiw I’ve heard of people insisting on an epidural at the same time as the drip is started to help them deal with the increased intensity easier, but I don’t know if that’ll help you given your movement issue. Did they say if they woukd be able to break your waters straight away ir if you’d need pessaries to get you to that point? Is there any chance of seeing the on call consultant before the induction starts? Or would a mw even be able to advise if there are other options to the drip? I don’t know much about inductions but I didn’t kmow if there are other options to having the drip once you get to that point as that was how I was told it would happen for me. Remember you don’t have to have it tomorrow, you have the right to know what’s going to happen and what options you have. You still have the opportunity of a csection if you feel happier with that.

Nearly 32 weeks now. Am just feeling grateful for not being in as much physical pain at this point compared to last time but feel like I’m tentatively awaiting the painful wake ups at night and struggles to get off the sofa. Tbh aches and pains last time were easy compared to nausea. Can’t wait to feel normal and not sick every single day.

cattaxi · 28/04/2019 10:05

@eallison88 I’m not surprised you are feeling worried if they have given you such little information.
For what it worth, I had a drip with ds. My waters had been gone a while, but no contractions, so they went straight for the drip, rather than try the pessary first. The contractions were quite intense from the offset. I coped from 9am -3pm without any pain relief. Then had gas & air. Moved on to morphine around 9pm and an epidural around 12am. The epidural was amazing. I found not being able to move around very difficult. By then, my waters had been gone for so long that I was worried about ds & imfection. So I felt it was really important he was monitored, but every time I moved they lost his trace. If you can push for the wireless monitor, definitely do that.
I ended up with an emcs after getting to 8 cm. but that was basically because ds was in a really awkward position. His head never engaged! The consultant said she would never have attempted an induction had she realised his positioning.
I’m not sure if my story will help you. I suppose what I’m trying to say is that the drip was ok. But the not moving about was very hard.
I’m sure you will get to talk it all through with the consultant in the morning. Maybe go armed with a list of questions? And always remember that it is all your choice & you have the right to be as informed as possible about that choice & to change your mind at any time.
We don’t have much planned today. I’ll check in regularly & am happy to answer any questions or just keep you company / hand hold. You’ve come so far. Last lap now & you will be great.

@norbert23 thanks.

Happy Sunday all!

DeadDoorpost · 28/04/2019 10:25

Woken up feeling like crap again. DS has a sore bum, and pooped during the night so that made it worse. I've already been sick but it's been mainly bile so I'm sat here eating sour sweets in the hopes they'll make me feel a bit better. (They are) but it's been made worse because DH has left me to watch DS by myself while he goes to church but DSis has taken DS off of my hands when I phoned my DM to let her know I wouldn't be around today because I was feeling sick still. She'd answered the phone and offered to get him.

I'm just annoyed more than anything. DH has seen me go through an HG pregnancy already and knows how hard it is. I don't know if hes just not thinking properly or genuinely believes me to be better than I am. Either way, I'm booking a Drs appt asap to get more meds.