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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 07/02/2019 13:25

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.

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avacadooo · 15/03/2019 13:09

Had a meeting with work today and I'm going back three days next week and see how i get on! Really happy as I've been stressed about money because I'm not signed off now and don't get paid when sick.

I seem to be having a crappy week with the vomiting ramping up again, today I had my left over chilli and was so sick after it came out my nose, I'm feeling all three chillis that went into it now 😣
Think I've got a cold or something going on, Doctor did say I could have the start of a chest infection, also could be a reaction to the whooping cough vaccine cause I've been ill since then probably caught something in the waiting room 😷

Just feeling sorry for myself and my burning nose right now.

1potato · 15/03/2019 13:55

Still here at 15+5. The nausea seems to be less food related and more to do with movement now. In the last couple of days I've found that talking can bring me close to throwing up too. Has anyone else experienced this?

I had a nice surprise a couple of days ago. My Mum and my sister came for a surprise visit along with my sister's 4 month HG baby. It really lifted my spirits and helped me look to the end.

DeadDoorpost · 15/03/2019 18:13

It's a miserable day today. Didn't sleep well and I've had 2 hours of throwing up. Barely managing to eat or drink anything without feeling sick.

Sorry ladies, I'm just here to moan. Don't really feel like I can moan here at home because no-one fully understands except DH

Reastie · 15/03/2019 18:26

1potato movement definitely made me worse at various points. Laying still in bed with my eyes closed was a must many a times.

Dead poor you, it’s so miserable isn’t it. You’ve made it through it 6:30 pm, that’s nearly the whole day, another day ticked off.

Avocado hope you don’t have a chest infection.

Blii don’t worry about being unhealthy, I think it’s hard when you can only manage so few things.

Nighttimenope · 15/03/2019 19:34

@1potato, you are describing my hyperemesis experience. I actually wasn’t really triggered by smells or foods (there were exceptions) but almost wholly by movement and exertion. Although I was very thankful that my food experiences weren’t too affected, nobody quite understands/believes that just sitting or talking can be so damaging. I tried to explain it was like bring motion sick without a horizon to focus on. It’s not really but it does help the unsympathetic somewhat 🙄

CalmerComber · 15/03/2019 19:37

Hello all, sorry I’ve been absent for a while. Now 20 weeks with the twins and feeling ten times better than a month ago when I was still in and out of hospital like a yo-yo.

I’m even thinking about trying to come off some of my drugs! I’ve forgotten a dose here and there a couple of times and have managed ok - is there a certain way to do it? What order shall I drop them? Or should I just discuss with GP? I’m on Ondansetron and Metoclopramide.

Reastie · 15/03/2019 19:47

Meant to add potato, nighttime is totally describing one of my key triggers, exertion of amy kind. There were weeks when I could barely even say a word to dd as speaking made me feel so much more sick. I couldn’t talk on the phone when friends would ring, I couldn’t answer the door and speak to people. It’s so tough for people to understand. I remember one lovely mum dropping dd back to me and wanting to chat to me at the door but I just couldn’t do it. She said she understood because she was sick when she was pg, but she also didn’t understood because she expected I’d be able to greet her for a chat.

Calmer that is absolutely fantastic news! I don’t know the recommended way to drop drugs other than very gradually. I also don’t know which one would be better tomstart with in your situ. I’d be tempted to say start with the ondansetron just because then you don’t have the constipation issue to deal with.

LucindaE · 15/03/2019 22:13

Calmbercomber That is happy news. Sufferers on these threads expecting twins often seem to make really good recoveries later on. Not sure how far along the others expecting twins are?
Oh dear, everyone else seems to be suffering badly. Sad

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beforeIhit30 · 16/03/2019 00:01

Oh no avacadooo hope you’re feeling better. Sounds like good news on the work front though. Are they/will they be quite supportive?

1potato I’m exactly the same (I’m even also 15+5!). Movement and exertion has been a big nausea/sickness trigger for me from the beginning. I’m known to start retching when loading the washing machine!

Today was a prime (rubbish) example - I slept for ages, slowly got up and got some fruit and yoghurt, and sat in the living room for about 3 hours. At which point I was clearly apparently drained by merely sitting on the sofa, and had to retire to my bed. Where I felt the most awful I’ve felt in a while Confused and ended up sleeping another 4 hours. Couldn’t even have anyone else in the room with me as it made me feel worse (sometimes the kids hang out with me in the bedroom after school). I feel ridiculous. However, another timely reminder that I just can’t do stuff yet (having been getting itchy yesterday to start tidying and chucking stuff out Blush I didn’t actually do anything, just mentally mapping it out!).

DeadDoorpost moan away, sounds miserable, hope you get some good rest and some respite from the sickness.

Hurrah Calmer! Good to hear you’re feeling better now.

eallison88 · 16/03/2019 06:44

Eurgh just wrote a long post then my phone freaked out and lost it.... in short;
I need a poo. I can't poo. I'm in pain. I may neck a bottle of lactulose today in desperation.
I haven't bled since Sunday. We think this is at least in part due to me not being in work. I'm now off til end of month, when I hope to extend to Easter hols. then we'll see, but I suspect I won't be back before mat leave at 36 weeks now. We'll see.

Those suffering; it does get better. Might not seem it, but it does. At nearly 28 weeks I'm still on loads of meds and feeling not great, but I can eat and drink (if not poo...) And function pretty much. At 10 weeks I was within minutes of asking for a termination, was in hospital unable to keep anything down, and convinced I'd made the biggest mistake of my life. The ladies here made such a difference to me, helping me get thru minute by minute. And it really does get better.

Teddyreddy · 16/03/2019 07:34

@CalmerComber I was on cyclizine, metaclopramide and ondensatron and have now got it down to just one tablet each of ondensatron and metaclopramide a day.

Metaclopramide helps keep your bowels moving, whereas ondensatron stops them - so if you stop the metaclopramide first the constipation gets worse. That means ideally you want to drop the ondensatron first. Just to warn you, metaclopramide used to be sometimes prescribed for reflux - I stopped my pm dose 2 days ago and my reflux has got worse Sad.

Having said that, I've had most success focusing instead on dropping the medication I need least - so one where you aren't reminded even before the next dose is due to take it by starting to feeling nauseous. I start by delaying taking the pill - and just see whether one or two hours later I still feel ok or start feeling a lot worse. I've found as I've got better the medication doesn't seem to wear off as quickly as it did a few weeks ago, so it's longer after the morning doses before I need more - the middle of the day doses were the first ones I could drop.

Potato, I had almost no food or smell triggers, for me it was almost entirely movement based. Lying down with my eyes shut I was usually ok, there were evenings I couldn't stand up without it immediately making me retch. Talking was also a trigger, I found the nausea was linked to getting out of breath so deliberately talking much more slowly helped a lot.

NorthLondonmum83 · 16/03/2019 08:00

Hello waves could I possibly join this group? 9 weeks pregnant with third baby and completely floored by sickness. Had nausea occasional vomiting with first two but this is a whole other story - sick many times a day, struggling to eat and I'm so thirsty (water is the worst, worst thing). Can't believe my worst pregnancy so far comes when I have a 2 and 3 year old to deal with - first time around would have been preferable....

eallison88 · 16/03/2019 11:54

Welcome northlondon. You'll find support and understanding here. Are you on any meds? If not, get to the doc as soon as you can and get some meds. Usual starting point is cyclizine, which many find helpful (but not everyone - If it isn't helping after a few days, go back and insist on something instead/in combo). Have you tried fizzy drinks? Or ice cold drinks? Some women find all they can tolerate is ice pops/ice cubes. Am afraid its a bit trial and error finding what drinks (and foods) you can tolerate. And you may not be able to tolerate very much of anything/anything at all with meds to help your stomach keep hold. There's a few of us on harder second (or more) pregnancies on here at that moment (myself included, #2). It seems pretty common for the sickness to get harder each time. One of the reasons that 2 children is the perfect number for me!!

ElkieMacjibe · 16/03/2019 12:36

Hi @NorthLondonmum83, welcome! I am also in North London and doing this for the second time - I was quite sick first time but not as floored as by this time. I expect because of all the underlying tiredness of having a 15 month old!
Second what has been said about getting meds as soon as possible. They have made a big difference to me, even though I feel awful I have stopped vomiting and can eat some food/drink.

beforeIhit30 · 16/03/2019 12:40

Hi NorthLondon, I’m in a similar position to you. Pregnant with DC3 and first time with hyperemesis. Didn’t have an amazing time with DC1 and DC2 - had all day nausea and occasional vomiting - however I could still manage it, I just felt a bit rubbish, so I could still go to work, do household tasks etc. This time has totally thrown me, I honestly had no idea I could get hyperemesis, I assumed if you got it you had it in all pregnancies. Like eallison says, if you’re not on meds already then do speak with your doctor ASAP. I’m on cyclizine, first week on it knocked me out a bit, was super drowsy and didn’t know how I could possibly continue with it, but stick it out - within a week I was back to my (relative) normal, drowsiness-wise.

FWIW it hasn’t made my illness disappear but it did hugely reduce the vomiting and retching and helped me to start eating and drinking more, which makes a big difference to your physical health as it makes it less likely that you’ll become dehydrated and such. One thing a lot of us here have agreed on is that one of the challenges is actually significantly lowering your expectations of what you can and can’t do. Like in a lot of recent posts, physical exertion is a common trigger for feeling worse, but we’re not talking about going for a run or cleaning the whole house - even simple tasks, like loading a washing machine, putting away dishes or simply talking can be a bit too much. It also usually takes longer for the symptoms to lift, so whereas in normal morning sickness you should feel much better by the end of the first trimester, for many women with HG it starts to improve by/around 20 weeks, although some continue to feel a bit off (but manageable) and unfortunately for some they continue to be ill.

Are you at home with the DCs? Are you able to take it easy? I’ll be honest, at first it really is tough going. The more rest you can get the better. However if it’s any consolation, a lot of people start to find it easier before 20 weeks, and the medication helps. For instance I’m still feeling feeble (!), but I can do so much more than I could at 10 weeks (I’m 16 weeks tomorrow). A lot of people find weeks 9-12/13 particularly bad, and then that it gets comparatively easier. But as above, it’s easier in terms of just living with it, not necessarily back to 100% like you were before but certainly feeling much better with it all and having more good days where you can actually do something (I’ve had two days this week where I went out for a couple of hours, last month I was pleased if I managed a couple of hours sitting upright!

To conclude my ramble - drinks. I know what you mean. I went through quite a few things, sometimes they worked for a bit and then I stopped tolerating them but main thing was I was drinking something. For me, my repertoire has included weak peach squash, hot blackcurrant squash, strawberry fruit tea, sparkling water, fizzy drinks (especially Coke/Dr Pepper), and ice cold water. Right now I’m between sparkling water and Coke/Dr Pepper, with the occasional strawberry tea.

Reastie · 16/03/2019 15:16

In the nicest way possible, I’m so glad you all struggle with exertion and exhaustion and doing stuff makes you worse. I honestly didn’t know last pg this was ‘normal’ for suffering. I thought I was just really pathetic. I thought I should just force myself through it and was weak by not doing so. I’m definitely more tired than last pg and am achieving less, but generally sleeping better Hmm .

An average day today, feeling quite rubbish this afternoon and getting progressively worse as the afternoon continues but this morning wasn’t too bad. Another day nearly crossed off. The weeks can’t come soon enough!

Hi north London, sorry you’re suffering. FWIW 9 weeks is right in the thick of it. Even if it lasts longer than most it will somewhat improve. Definitely get those medicines as soon as you can. Having other children to look after definitely makes it harder.

Eal I hope you manage to go to the loo soon! Apart from nausea, issues around bms are topnof my issues list and they are often combined together too.

eallison88 · 16/03/2019 15:45

I had a poo!! It took me ages. I took a book and settled in!!! TMI, but I'm amazed at how much much poo there was. It's no wonder I was so bloody uncomfortable. It also shouldn't be a surprise that baby is now dancing away - it prohably no space before!!!

As an indication if lowering your expectations... I just went to to supermarket to buy a chicken and pork scratchings (healthy gestational diabetes snack!). I now need a nap.

Reastie · 16/03/2019 15:57

Yay eal. It’s pathetic how excited I get by this myself and how much better I feel afterwards. Supermarket trip is a big exhaustion here that needs some serious recovery time from!

ElkieMacjibe · 16/03/2019 17:25

@eallison88 yippee! It's such a relief isn't it.

My exertion yesterday was spending most of the day sorting life admin stuff from the sofa. I am sooo nauseous today because of it. How ridiculous!

eallison88 · 16/03/2019 18:50

This Calcutta Cup score isn't helping my sickness.... how thoroughly depressing.

Blii · 16/03/2019 19:33

Haha that’s good eallison88. Do you prop your feet up on a little stool? It definitely helps (I use the toilet roll packet).
I’m not going to feel great tomorrow. Husband has been poorly today so I’ve done a lot more than what I usually would. I am going straight to sleep once my eldest has gone to bed. I cannot wait. Fingers crossed I get a good nights sleep so I don’t feel too bad for work. Hope everyone is ok.

avacadooo · 16/03/2019 19:42

@Blii I have to use the bathroom bin as a foot stool when I go 😂😂

Had a crappy start to the day but I'm managing to do some cleaning since dh is on a late shift and I get some peace from him also because my mums coming up tomorrow and I don't want her to think she's walked into Chernobyl.

@eallison88 I'm so sorry but I'm loving the result (I'm Scottish 😬) but mainly loving it because the memes my brother keeps putting online!! Seriously my newsfeed is full of it!

I have just scrubbed the sink for the second time this week, I think I married a caveman/toddler with how gross he's gotten it in a couple days and I'm not talking a quick wipe there was full on unidentifiable food stuck to it. He also left me a mountain of dishes which was kind of him 🙄

LucindaE · 16/03/2019 20:10

Northlondonmum83 Welcome. Sorry you feel so bad. As others say, you do need meds asap. An anti acid can make a huge difference. Is there anyone, friends or relatives, or nursery, who could help with childcare? eallison Elkiemacjibe beforeihit30 and others, on coping tips, drinks and other advice. I will churn out my two spiels for new sufferers.
It is a good idea to have some kesositx from any chemists to hand to test for dehydration; hospitals aren't meant to rely on them for criteria for admission,but they do tend to take them seriously.

The other is my list of useful drinks and food. I believe flat, full sugar coke, ice cubes and Dr Pepper and fizzy water have alreadybeen mentioned. There is eallison's tipple of Edlerflower cordial and tonic water, the juice of tinned fruit, Iron Bru, Lucoazade, fizzy orange, orange squash, and if not too acid, orange juice, lemonade, sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), Robinson's fruit drinks, tonic water, soda water and Elderflower water. For foods of a sort, tinned fruit, cheap ice cream, nibbles of chips and crisps, baked potato, cuppa soup, Scotch pancakes, biscuits, slices of melon and mango and jelly. Things do get better for most people at some point between 15 and 21 weeks. Even those who suffer throughout almost never feel as bad as in the early days. Also, many people find round the 10 weeks mark one of the worst.
1PotatoI am so glad you had that sweet reminder from your sister's baby. It does take longer for the symptoms of Hyperemesis to improve than routine ms, and from what I have heard, even that often doesn't lift until 14-16 weeks.
DeadDoorPost Oh dear, two hours puking. That is awful. Much sympathy.
Advocadoo Sorryto hear about chillis and nosebleed. That sort of thing can disgust you with a good for ages.
eallison Great advice. I am so glad the bleeding has stopped,and Mother Hen says don't go back to work if working is connected with the bleeding. I am glad your bowels unlocked!
Wise words from Teddyreddy and *Reastie too.
Bili I hope you have a good night.
Apologies for anyone rudely overlooked.

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LucindaE · 16/03/2019 20:12

Avocadoo Very slovenly of OH.Grin

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eallison88 · 16/03/2019 20:29

avacadoo I could quite believe that I spent the last few minutes hoping for a bloody draw!

I used the bin for as a footstool for a long time. Then a month or so ago my son asked me what I was doing and why. I explained. He toddled off, then came back qith a little wooden stool we bought him for his first Christmas (it's carved like a giraffe) and said "you should use this mummy, until our baby's here and you can poo properly". So that now lives in the bathroom!!