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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 07/02/2019 13:25

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.

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cattaxi · 01/03/2019 12:33

Hello! I have a lovely bones symptom today. Vertigo! Woke up in the middle of the night feeling very sick & like the world was spinning underneath me. Horrible.
It’s passed now, but I had to spend all morning laying still in bed until it did. Yuk!

@ElkieMacjibe dydd gŵyl Dewi hapus / happy st David’s day from a fellow Welshie 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@eallison88 that all sounds so stressful. Lots of love to you.

Happy Friday everyone! Another week closer to meeting our little sick makers!

Reastie · 01/03/2019 12:39

Cattaxi is prochlorperazine one of the drugs you take? I was once given it by gp for those symptoms so might work on a part of the brain to help with that

Parent19876 · 01/03/2019 13:33

Hi guys,
Just been admitted for hg today. Waiting to get an iv. Feeling so horrible, bit grateful that hopefully it'll be on the up.

beanhunter · 01/03/2019 13:53

Bad luck on the admissions both. Hope you get the hope you need.
I had a pretty horrific time yesterday. The maternity triage clearly know nothing about HG but I’m not allowed in the epau where they usually manage as too pregnant. Repeatedly got told that giving me fluid was dangerous - despite not weeing for over 12 hours. In the end as heart rate climbed they relented but it was awful. Got home around 11pm. They wanted me to stay overnight but wouldn’t give me any more fluids so I came home. 3+ ketones at discharge (this is new for me but I suspect because of the virus) and down to 2+ this am. Not doing well again with fluids due to the cough induced vomiting on top of hg. Roll on due date. So over being pregnant.

Parent19876 · 01/03/2019 14:16

Still waiting on an iv for fluids and pain management, but just had first ultrasound to check baby's ok and they're okay! Flipping about! What a relief knowing that even though I'm so sick baby is okay :)

norbert23 · 01/03/2019 18:51

Sorry that so many of you have had such a difficult few days, it sounds incredibly difficult. I hope you all get some rest soon and the worst of it has passed.
I've been brave today and eaten a non bread item and drunk something that isn't nesquik! Hoping I can branch out food wise a little how that I'm back at work and it might give me a bit more energy! I'm dying for a cup of tea and cake - I miss food 😁

LucindaE · 01/03/2019 20:24

Welcome to Parent19876. Sorry you've been admitted. I hope when they discharge you, it is with effective meds. Is this your first Hyperemesis pregnancy? If not, I don't need to give my 'Do you find flat full sugar coke ice lollies and the juice of tinned fruit spiel. Did they admit you through other symptoms without insisting on testing for ketones?

beanhunter I hope you are feeling a bit better now. Did they accept in the end that you were dheydrated, ketones or not?
eallison I am sorry about another bleed. That is so dismal, particularly when you had nice treats planned. OH sounds thoughtful.
norbertI hope that food stays put. I so know what you mean about tea.
ElkieMacjibe A fourteen month old. That must be exhausting. Sorry, I had forgotten about that. It will be so nice to have two youngsters so close in age, though. They will be able to entertain each other wonderfully quite soon.

Bili Sunday is an unusual day to return to work. As ever, Mother Hen says 'don't overdo it.'
Reastie A four page document sounds impressive. Congratulations on producing that.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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Hairwizard · 01/03/2019 21:37

@eal
That must be really stressful everytime this happens, dont know how you are keeping it together! Id be a wreck! You will be glad to get to the finish line.

cattaxi · 01/03/2019 22:02

@Reastie I think it might be. Will try it if the vertigo comes back. I really hope it doesn’t.

Sorry to those who have had to be admitted. I hope you all get some relief from
fluids.
My sickness feels like it’s really ramping up the past few days. 7 weeks tomorrow. In my last pregnancy it was really bad about 9-12 weeks. The cyclezine is still knocking me out, so I’m staying hydrated because I have a drink & fall asleep. But I’m keeping much less food down & feel constantly nauseous. Really dreading the weeks ahead.

Parent19876 · 02/03/2019 07:20

@LucindaE
I was admitted without checking urine for keytones as i hadn't passed urine in over 12 hours. they had planned on giving me an iv for fluids, but i have horrible veins so never managed that (fingers crossed one isn't needed for birth!) I was admitted through my gp, which I'm sure makes a difference.
This is my first pregnancy full stop! And doing it alone, so totally out of my depth here. Go ahead and give me your whole spiel.
They've given me anti sickness injections and are pushing liquids, although I've been here nearly twenty four hours and have only unrinated once.
But on the plus side, i got to have a quick sonogram to check on baby which was great as it was my first time seeing the little one! Definitely abated a huge portion of anxiety- now it all feels real!

I know i got off easy with my sickness, so massive cheers to you warriors of ladies who have it worse. You ladies are absolute heros in my books. FlowersFlowers

eallison88 · 02/03/2019 09:44

parent19 you're an absolute trooper to be doing this alone. Please be kind to yourself as much as possible. On the plus side, at least you won't have to put up with other people and their unpleasant smells!! Eat and drink whatever you can whenever you can. At this stage don't even worry about how healthy anything is; anything that you can get in and keep down is healthy!! Drinks wise people often find iced or hot drinks work best (for me If its not ice cold there's no chance it's staying down). Some people swear by fizzy drinks (fanta for me 1st pregnancy), elderflower cordial and fizzy water seems to be successful for many. And actually, sugary drinks are probably better than just water, as they will provide a bit of sugar/energy as well as liquid. Food wise, stodgy seems to be the best in the early weeks and months. Chips, jacket spuds, scotch pancakes. Also things like super noodles.

cattaxi it might be worth speaking to your GP about adding some other meds into the mix if you're still feel sick with just cyclizine. Especially as, as you say, you're heading towards what is often some of the worst weeks

beanhunter I'm so with you on being over being pregnant. I've had more small.bleeds since being discharged yesterday (last night and this morning). On the basis that last the week the doctors didn't want to give another anti d injection within 24hrs, ive not gone to hospital for either of these bleeds, as they are only small (like the others). If I have another bleed after 11am (when I had My jab yesterday) then I'll take myself back in.

In the end I made it to my mani/pedi and it was lovely. Really relaxing and made me smile. This morning I'm back to being grumpy tho. Came down with The Boy to sort breakfast at 7am (only cos if I don't eat by 7.30 and have my steroids then the day tends to go to shit). Except there's barely anything i can eat that meets all the bloody rules. I couldnt stomach any more porridge (and there wasnt a clean pan to cook it in anyway. In fact there wasn't a clean anything. The kitchen was a fucking disaster zone). So I did The Boy's porridge then had to unload and reload the dishwasher. Then worked out that literally the only other option for my breakfast was boiled eggs. So washed a pan and did myself some eggs. It drives me mad that hubby doesn't even put empty packets in the bin. Just leaves them where he's emptied them. The veg box has been sitting on the side since it arrived on Thurs, so I put it away. To find that we've got a load of mouldy veg already, sitting in the cupboard, that hubby hasn't felt the need to bin. 60 second hob to bin mouldy veg and put new veg away, clears space in the kitchen, but he doesn't even think of it/see it. Drives me absolutely potty.

reastie I'm so glad you had a considerate and thoughtful midwife. I really hope that your midwife is able to answer some of your questions at least at your next appointment.

Reastie · 02/03/2019 10:11

Eal does/would rest help the bleeds? I just wondered if being so active at work might be partially causing the bleeds? Although thinking that you’ve just had half term and had bleeds then so maybe nothing can help it. Btw I do porridge in the microwave, oats and milk/water in bowl and 1.5 mins on high and I’ve got a portion of porridge :) urgh to your morning so far.

Parent lots of people find ice lollies useful. I would suck on ice cubes as for some reason they made me feel less sick than drinking water.

Cattaxi mine ramped up then too. Adding extra drugs into cyclizine really helped.

Norbert how did the food/drink go down?

After 2 days of constant BMs I’m now constipated. I can feel I need to go but can’t. So I know that means I’ll be feeling really sick later as this is how the cycle goes .

avacadooo · 02/03/2019 11:01

@eallison88 I'm sorry about all these bleeds, the curse of negative blood 😒 (I'm an ab- so I get to get stabbed if I bleed too which luckily hasn't happened)
Also on the husband front mine does the exact same!! The bin in less than a meter away and he'll just leave it!!! Drives me nuts, also somehow puts rubbish in the sink and left over food, it's so gross!
Does yours by any chance have a mum that did everything for him cause I think that's why mine is like this cause she'll serve you dinner and collect your plate at the end, so awkward whereas my siblings and I were always on dishwasher duty and table clean up 😂
Don't even start me on the empty toilet rolls he puts them on top of the empty bin😡

@cattaxi I second what reastie said I had to get proclo-zsomething around 8 weeks but they didn't tell me I could use it with cyclizine and when I discovered that it made life considerably less shit. You're one more week closer to the end keep your chin up!!

@Parent19876 you're the hero doing this alone!!

Went to the haematology consultant yesterday biggest waste of time, appointment was at 10:30 they didn't see me until 11:45 and I was out by five to!! I got a bit pissy at the consultant cause if I don't eat between 11-12 shit hits the fan and I told her this, got no apology and she wouldn't listen to anything I said just kept saying she needed to see my sisters notes about a suspected clot and why didn't I know in detail about that, did I at least know when the baby was born (that angered me of course I know when that little turd was born he's my flipping nephew) she was condescending as hell telling me I'll need heparin injections for six weeks after birth and it wasn't an option because I'll die. Bit extreme and ignored my concerns about them. So looks like after this shit show of a pregnancy is over dh gets to stab me in the thigh which is grand. Oh and because they were late I was right i had to spend the day sleeping to ignore the nausea and couldn't eat!!

I'm sorry I can't remember who said it but I am also over being pregnant, my beloved leggings are giving me a two bump look and it isn't flattering. Just 23 more weeks to go!!!

Reastie · 02/03/2019 11:22

Avacadoo I’m exactly the same with having to eat at certain times and I get anxious for every medical appointment worrying they are running late. I once had to walk out of the gp surgery and give up my appointment as she was running late and I knew I couldn’t manage waiting that long. It’s really tough and I don’t think people understand it, I’d probably struggle if I hadn’t have experienced it. Even things like parking on the wrong side of the car park and having the extra walking can make the difference to how well a trip out goes. It sounds ridiculous but it really does! I’m sorry the appointment was rubbish, I hope the next one is better. I had to have injections daily after my csection last time, something to do with blood clotting I think.

I’ve decided to try to read a lot if I can over the coming months. I have a big ‘to read’ pile and, tbh, I’m unlikely to get any time to read over the coming years. Its also a way of wasting time when I’m up to it.

Still no bm so still feeling bunged and nauseous :(

ElkieMacjibe · 02/03/2019 12:17

I'm so sorry everyone is suffering but it does give me comfort to know I'm not alone and not a crazy person for being horrified at the thought of hot tea as only ice cold semi fizzy will do or because I can only eat beige potato based products at best. Current craving - pink wafer biscuits. Hope they don't disappoint.
Past few days are rough, been reading back through my whatsapp msgs from a similar point last pregnancy to try and work out how long this truly awful bit was. I'm hoping not too much longer. I'm 8 weeks today and it's definitely come earlier this time.
My plan is to try and get signed off on Monday at least for next week. Which made me panic about my childcare (I have my son Tues morn and all Weds) so I have put in my first ever emergency call to my mum to have her come up (to London from Cardiff). Thank goodness she was very keen 🙏 she also suffered this with all 3 of her pregnancies so I think she gets it.
Plans for the weekend - try and leave the house?! Haven't since Weds. Feel pretty disgusting. Think my husband is slightly at breaking point doing all the caring of both of us and my son so feel I should attempt something normal!

1potato · 02/03/2019 12:27

Hi everyone.

I wanted to drop in to say hello. I have dipped in and out of this thread, following everyone's fortunes. I think you're all so brave. Proper heroes.

I'm 12+5 and due on September 8th.

I've not been officially diagnosed with HG as I've not been to hospital but I've had all day nausea since week 6 and vomiting to various degrees on all days. I've spent most or my time in bed or on the sofa. Currently taking cyclizine, which sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

I've been housebound since my 12 week scan on Monday. Luckily my DP and puppy have been away so I've only had myself to look after. They return today and I'm slightly dreading it. Wallowing is so much easier when you're on your own!!! I'm full of admiration for those of you who look after little ones at the same time - I think I'll have to adopt the next one.

Just reading this thread lifts my spirits. So glad and sad you're all out there and suffering too!

LucindaE · 02/03/2019 17:23

1Potato Welcome. Sorry you are suffering. I have added your date. I think, according to her request, this post will be useful for Parent19876 too. Take heart. Almost nobody suffers as much later on as in the first dreadful weeks. Most people get an improvement between 15 and 20 weeks. Have you got kesostix available from any chemists, to check for ketones? I know that they aren't the best test of dehydration, but hospitals do take them seriously. Then, a good anti acid like Ranitidine or Omprazole can make a huge difference. Some liquids that have helped others: flat full sugar coke, as someone suggested, ice lollies and ice cubes, the juice of tinned fruit, Dr Pepper, Iron Bru, Lucoazade, Elderflower water, Robinson's fruit drinks, soda water, fizzy water, tonic water, Elderflower cordial and tonic water (eallison's tipple, that), fizzy orange, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid) Vimto and sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya). Some foods of a sort. Nibbles of crisps and chips, cuppa soup, Scotch pancakes, slices of melon and mango, tinned fruit, cuppa soup, baked potatoes, biscuits and cheap ice cream. A wonderful diet. Shock
eallison Sorry about further bleeds. Men never seem to be able to see or smell anything in a fridge or a cupboard (unless it is a can of beer). I don't know what it is. Grin 'The Boy' Wink I like it.
cattaxi Might an anti acid help? Sorry, you might be on one already.
avocadoo That sounds awful. There was surely no need for the nurse to be so alarmist, when you are well informed. I didn't know what about bloods besides rh negative.
Waves to all.
beanhunter Have they released you yet?
Hairgician How are things?
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beanhunter · 02/03/2019 17:36

I got home the same day but managed to get down to 2+. Holding out at home at the moment but sitting at 3-4+ so suspect unless things improve I’ll be back in tomorrow. It’s jist such a less understood thing in maternity than epau and I can’t face sitting for hours begging for fluids. That’s not a good use of anyone’s time.

1potato · 02/03/2019 17:58

@lucinda thank you for the warm welcome and advice. I actually read some of the recommendations on a previous post and did an online shop with them in mind. I can report that the tinned mangoes and syrupy juice went down very well, as is this lolly I have right now. Such a relief to be able to eat something other than pot noodles, which have been one of the only things to stay down for a long time. Who knows why, I'd never normally touch them!

Puppy now back in the house and galloping around. It's good to have a change of energy.

avacadooo · 02/03/2019 18:29

@LucindaE not as bad as the midwife who's like a bag of cats, I've had no decent advice from the woman and no nothing about when to go for antenatal classes or anything which is stressful because dh is a complete baby beginner and I think he needs some reassurance on what to do. Also got told I'll feel movement at 20 weeks and a pattern by 24 with no information about what to do if the pattern stops and my next appointment isn't until middle of April. She's still not as crazy as @canonlyhopexo 's poaching midwife! Also due date is 11th August 😊

@1potato welcome, I love the name 😂 just being a total freak but what type of puppy do you have? I love doggos!

@Reastie my stabbings are to prevent clots too ( still don't believe I need them and it's blown out of proportion) did they hurt? How long did you have to have them for?
The crazy consultant said people get them after c-sections and if I have a natural birth my risk will be low then decided the mention I might not get the midwife unit because I'll probably end up with complications, no evidence of this I think they are just trying to scare me since my blood is looking perfect and I'm young and normally healthy.

@ElkieMacjibe your mum sounds like an absolute gem!!

@beanhunter sorry you're having a rough time with the maternity unit I don't understand why the professionals are clueless to such a horrible condition, just makes life difficult. I hope you don't have to beg for fluids!💕

Reastie · 02/03/2019 18:34

Avacadoo I think I took them for a week or so after birth. Possibly a couple of weeks. I was told to do it into my thigh and they expected me to do it to myself Shock . I couldn’t do it so got my mum to do it for me every day (she used to be a nurse) or on the days the mws were visiting they did it for me. I remember I lay down to have it done (domt kmow if that was essential or not Grin ). It really wasn’t that bad, just a bit of a prick. I don’t remember any side effects from having it. If I really had to do it to myself I probably could, it’s just the mental thing of knowing you’re jabbing yourself I couldn’t do! It hurt less than when I’ve had the flu jab and didn’t feel sore or anything after. I know they are being overly careful but it’s better than way than not bothering and having a serious issue.

Reastie · 02/03/2019 18:36

Meant to say bean I, so surprised how little understood needing fluids is on maternity. Can you see a consultant who can write in your notes what fluids and treatment you need on the ward if ever you need admission again so they have clear instructions they can’t ignore?

avacadooo · 02/03/2019 18:41

@Reastie yeah they told me I'd have to do it myself and I was like I can't do that I'm a wimp with needles, dh has agreed to do it but I'm really hoping they won't give them to me because I'll be looking like a pin cushion after six weeks! That's good it's not as sore as the flu jag because that wasn't that terrible I can bare that! I'm just annoyed they ignored everything I said about how it was my sisters 3rd child and wasn't confirmed so it seems a bit over the top to tell me I'm going to die. My poor mh nurse when I tell her this on Friday, what nutter tells a first time mum they'll die?!?

beanhunter · 02/03/2019 18:47

They were just useless. They only see from 20 weeks and I suppose most lucky ladies aren’t still suffering then.
Results are back and I have 2 bad viruses - not flu though so no treatment. I honestly feel as rough today as I did at 12 weeks.

cattaxi · 02/03/2019 19:27

@LucindaE I actually hadn’t thought about an antacid. I don’t feel like I need one, but anything is worth a try, so thanks. I keep meaning to tell you my due date is 19th October. Feels like ages away! I hope I gain some days at my 12 week scan!

@avacadooo & @Reastie I had to inject myself for a couple of weeks post c-section. I’m usually quite squeamish, but found it ok.

Hope everyone is ok this evening. I’m sipping on a rocket ice lolly - rock n roll Saturday night!